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Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:46 am
by Dr Worm
In post 2151, brassherald wrote:You're thinking of Mighty Mouse.

Spoiler:

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:53 am
by Titus
In post 2173, Fumuki wrote:Since the shitshow is over I want to set this straight. For real.

I'm very afraid of scum!Shoshin making a fool out of me here, but yeah, I honestly don't feel that Shoshin is that great of a lynch compared to other slots. At least not right now.
I'm at the point where I just need to know his alignment. I'm not going to pretend he's lock scum.

Looking forward to your reads.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:14 am
by Fumuki
I've been searching some Shoshin games and I retract my meta on her.

Definitely not completely retracting, but I thought I had seen more of her games than I actually have? I have this habit of skimming through ongoing games and I had seen Shoshin quite a lot, however she rolls town quite a lot? although I didn't look game by game (I search for topics she posted in and try to see if there she posted in a "scum PT" in that game, if not I assume that she was town there), I've only found a very old scum game of hers now that I'm diligently reading them.

I'm not saying she has been towny in a meta way here though. Just that I thought I knew more about her than I actually do. Also I'm not particularly counting the Starcraft game as a scum game since you were third party.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:39 am
by Fumuki
I'm reading Fire on the Mountain and what the hell...

That game is...rude.
In post 496, Karmeleon wrote:I'm just watching and wondering what's going on while hiding in the background.
Gold post of the game by the way.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:44 am
by GuyInFreezer
I'm assuming the inactivity is mostly because of the Finals week. Which I'm going through atm. I will be back on track by tomorrow.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:47 am
by Fumuki
I indeed had less knowledge on Shoshin that I thought I had, but Shoshin really do feels weird here, especially in day 1.

As NSG said, a "caricature" of her usual self I would say.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:03 am
by Fumuki
Actually, I'm taking most of Shoshin meta to the trash can.

Shoshin meta right now can change drastically I would say. It's unstable grounds and not reliable. She seems to not be confident with her own methods.

I'll review her ISO here but maybe the optimal play is to try something else today, and cop checks Shoshin tonight? Brass slot is probably be easier to engage with so I'm not as worried as I was before with RC. (I don't really know how to read him that accurately though).

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:37 am
by Fumuki
I was planning to re:read the whole game for last but maybe that's too much effort...

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:39 am
by Shoshin
I recommend unvoting me, Fumuki.

I'd like your thoughts on Titus.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:40 am
by Fumuki
Shoshin, nice. I want to talk with you.

I want to know how you felt in day 1 and why you played like you played here.

Real-time interactions would be preferable.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:40 am
by Shoshin
What don't you understand about my play on D1?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:41 am
by Fumuki
My thoughts on Titus are not solid yet. I'm trying to solve the game again.

I really couldn't play like I wanted with RC around, we have too much of a playstyle clash.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:41 am
by Fumuki
In post 2185, Shoshin wrote:What don't you understand about my play on D1?
Lots of things, but I think it would be better for you to simply tell me why you played the way you played.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:44 am
by Shoshin
I don't know how to answer that, Fumuki.

I was in five or six games at the time & felt overwhelmed. That probably explains most of your concerns?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:44 am
by Shoshin
I wasn't using a specific strategy if that's what you're wondering.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:48 am
by Fumuki
How many of those games are finished?

and of the finished ones, how many were you scum in?

also, let's say if you had hipothetically rolled scum in a game right after Fire on the Mountain. How do you think you would play?

You think that your scum play doesn't work, but how do you think that you could make it work?

Please try to not answer with a "I don't know".

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 am
by Creature
Fumuki can be town too

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 am
by Creature
I need to get wasted with something.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:51 am
by Fumuki
Creature, you said you had some issues IRL, are you better right now?

I'm asking this because it can reflect in how I read you.

Also, do you think I should be town reading you here Creature?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:52 am
by Creature
In post 2193, Fumuki wrote:Creature, you said you had some issues IRL, are you better right now?
It's not even just IRL.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:52 am
by Creature
I keep feeling I became a terrible mafia player.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:53 am
by Creature
Maybe this is why I'm posting like this rn?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:54 am
by Fumuki
I don't necessarily think so Creature.

Actually, when I joined the site you were known as quite a strong town player. Mastina even said that if you didn't know who to vote for, it was +ev town to sheep you because you frequently was right.

I need to say though, recently I feel like you've not put much effort in your games. Maybe it's because you've gotten busy with something else, but that's my 2 cents.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:57 am
by Shoshin
@Fumuki

I think one of the ongoing games is finished? I replaced out of a couple.

In the finished game, I was town & ended up a mislynch because I posted less than here.

If I rolled scum after Fire, I'd be townread by everyone in the game. I'd also likely replace out after being widely townread because I was too busy to care about scum games.

I disagree that my scum play doesn't work. I'm extremely good at being townread. I think I've lost scum games in the past mostly because of setup issues, not because of my play.

I think there's very clear differences between my town play & scum play. The town play is directed towards lynching scum, whereas the scum play is directed towards looking town. This game clearly shows the former.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:57 am
by Creature
Yesterday I had all day but screwed up pretty bad still