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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:06 pm
by Hidden Happiness
In post 2122, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Because I think that there's actually a world where you're town and HH are TMI defending you because they thought it would make them look good. It's more likely that they're defending their buddy, but it could be either way. But if you're not going to have your vote on HH I'm not going to put in all the work to derail your lynch in favor of HH's.
This isn't something scum me would hard defend or do because it's not like people are going to start magically listening to me. No one has before and no one will. You should know this by now. This is pretty cheap and dumb of you to do.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:06 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2172, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
In post 2170, Gamma Emerald wrote:RC I feel you've pushed a lot of slots, maybe more than average for you
How many people do you legitimately suspect rn
this is
absolute trash
as scum the amount of people I push is less than my town average, not the other way around.
I didn't say anything about your alignment

I think you're town, but there seem to be a lot of people you seem to have pushed for a little bit and then stopped, there was Dann, and it seems like Cafe Stile is also in this category based on your currently named suspects

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:07 pm
by Hidden Happiness
Uh, you appear to be pretending to have a daycop on us. Uh, okay, bye. I'm blacklisting you, please never try to join a game we're in again RC.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:07 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
By the end of the first day in my last large theme where I was hydra'd with Nancy I had pushed
8
different players at some point.

CK
Kidamn
Rautherdir
Bambi Jay
Yourself
FTC
Whemestar
Primate

If anything, I have pushed less than that this game. So, why are you trying to say that this is scummy?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2173, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I've had more than my fair share of games where at some point I have literally pushed every player in the game to sort them.
See this is what it looks like 100% to me, I just want to know where you're at overall

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 pm
by Hidden Happiness
In post 2153, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
I claim for
reasons
that I am 100% sure that HH is flipping scum. If you're not voting her in your next post, you're voting us.


No one else is going to be lynched from here on out so if you're voting elsewhere you're just wasting your time.
RC. Take this back in your next post right the fuck now. I am not joking. I don't have time for this. You know for a fact the reason I even played this was assuming you wouldn't do dumb fucking bs shit like this. Stop now

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 pm
by Hidden Happiness
That post and the top post were ~Celica

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2178, Tana and Ephraim wrote:By the end of the first day in my last large theme where I was hydra'd with Nancy I had pushed
8
different players at some point.

CK
Kidamn
Rautherdir
Bambi Jay
Yourself
FTC
Whemestar
Primate

If anything, I have pushed less than that this game. So, why are you trying to say that this is scummy?
I'm not. I'm trying to understand your reads rn.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 pm
by Lady Eventide
In post 2173, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Also it's still likely not above average: I've had more than my fair share of games where at some point I have literally pushed every player in the game to sort them.
You know this or ought to know this, so why are you taking one of the few things that are mathematically, demonstrably a towntell for me
as other players including Shoshin have brought up as a way to meta me and as I have myself stated that I find it difficult to fake as scum

and trying to use it to discredit my read?
I think I just got whiplash from how fast you 180d on gamma here as soon as they stopped doing what you wanted them to.

Everyone who is scumreading you, you think is scum. You think Tana's cute face ought to be enough to protect you.

... I still want more opinions here, but you seem to be derailing hard and I sure as hell am not following where you lead.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:09 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 2175, Hidden Happiness wrote:it's not like people are going to start magically listening to me.
This is a +.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:09 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
KK whatever HH's response is not town.

VOTE: HH

But we're lynching HH the next day and no one's fighting it.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:09 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
VOTE: LE

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:11 pm
by Lady Eventide
Tana and Ephraim wrote:VOTE: LE
How quickly you abandon your plan to lynch HH first.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:11 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
I did say I was unlikely to pursue it if you weren't voting there.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:12 pm
by popsofctown
In post 2171, Lady Eventide wrote: Aw hell naw. Early dayend is bad, RC should know that, fuck this.
This is probably a legitimate site meta difference. Aside from extremely absurd RVS instant hammers, it's generally agreed that days that end early lead to higher town winrate on this site. The newbie reduce it's deadline length one year and the scum winrate dropped heavily.
I don't think it's an objectively true fact of mafia, just a trend due to the playstyles of most of the players on site and how they benefit from momentum vs. data.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:12 pm
by Bitmap
UNVOTE:

I need a bit to think.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:13 pm
by popsofctown
ebwop: the Newbie Game section reduced its deadline length

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:13 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
No, you don't.

A lot of people in mafia really need to do less thinking and more following the people who actually know what they're doing.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1436, Hidden Happiness wrote:God I ask my hydra partner to do one thing so I can focus on my college work but I guess I have to do everything myself and catch up.
I refuse to read 40+ pages so I'm skipping to like page 25 if anything happened before oh well don't care.
~Celica
lmfao

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2183, Lady Eventide wrote:
In post 2173, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Also it's still likely not above average: I've had more than my fair share of games where at some point I have literally pushed every player in the game to sort them.
You know this or ought to know this, so why are you taking one of the few things that are mathematically, demonstrably a towntell for me
as other players including Shoshin have brought up as a way to meta me and as I have myself stated that I find it difficult to fake as scum

and trying to use it to discredit my read?
I think I just got whiplash from how fast you 180d on gamma here as soon as they stopped doing what you wanted them to.

Everyone who is scumreading you, you think is scum. You think Tana's cute face ought to be enough to protect you.

... I still want more opinions here, but you seem to be derailing hard and I sure as hell am not following where you lead.
That was a 180? And even if it was it's kinda reasonable because there was room to misinterpret my post

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:16 pm
by popsofctown
In post 2192, Tana and Ephraim wrote:No, you don't.

A lot of people in mafia really need to do less thinking and more following the people who actually know what they're doing.
Endearing..

VOTE: LE

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:17 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 2189, popsofctown wrote:
In post 2171, Lady Eventide wrote: Aw hell naw. Early dayend is bad, RC should know that, fuck this.
This is probably a legitimate site meta difference. Aside from extremely absurd RVS instant hammers, it's generally agreed that days that end early lead to higher town winrate on this site. The newbie reduce it's deadline length one year and the scum winrate dropped heavily.
I don't think it's an objectively true fact of mafia, just a trend due to the playstyles of most of the players on site and how they benefit from momentum vs. data.
Odd that you haven't re-voted LE.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:17 pm
by Lady Eventide
RC is blatantly off. I don't know if this is how they usually play, but their vengeful reactions to people they think are scumreading them remind me of LLD's play in G5. They're not playing for solving, they're playing for social control.

HH's response to their bkatant gambitry and bullying is strong and pure to me. If I'm being pocketed, I'm never climbing out.

RC: You challenged me to vote for either you or HH. I think at this point you've made it abundantly clear who I ought to be voting.

VOTE: Tana And Ephraim

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:18 pm
by Dannflor
In post 2171, Lady Eventide wrote:Dann, Gamma, Pops, and especially you, Wind, you know my meta:

Assume I am town. Should I trust the fuzzy friendly person who has not been contributing and wants me to live, or the loud abrasive person with a plan for how they want the game to go, and who wants me to die?
I... don't know your meta?

I don't know why you're asking for opinions. It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:18 pm
by Dannflor
In post 2197, Lady Eventide wrote:I don't know if this is how they usually play
it is

there

now you know