On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Latias and Latios]

I missed it. But I like the concept of the drill and will share what I had ready anyway.

It meant a lot to me that CO Ausuka stepped into replace CO Mathdino's role overseeing the Battle of Monty Hall Mafia. The COs were all owed a rousing battle and it does not seem she craved a promotion to the position but she did an excellent job. I don't know if I ever properly thanked her. This battle when she has increased the number of units she needs to command due to Datisi relinquishing some of his command it seemed like de ja vu from a CO that is just characteristically thoughtful. I look forward to battling her.

This is the post that clears me

Why are you saying you have to battle Ausuka? Are you different alignments?

Ba dum tssss

I’m skating on this til Day 3 if someone shoots me by then you are yucky

~som

Play like this is why no one townreads you kekw

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

Not sure where the VC is but I saw recent votes for The Searchers and Disaster Arrtists and we will NOT be lynching either of them today

I still need to reread (which may or may not happen) and catch up (which will probably happen) but I only want egospray or Smol Might

~Spiffy

I'm rather opposed to Smol Might btw

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

Nvm tone reading girls is like holding an idiot banner on your forehead

~som

Ok Mr. Niceguy

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

Hectic is really awesome for encouraging wholesomeness in a mafia game. Teamwork makes the dreamwork.

~Titus

Titus recieves 25$!

@pops, I just want you to know I appreciate you. I have no idea what your alignment is this game but you're always fun to play with, even when you're doing a really dank meme that isn't working at all since almost no one is familiar with the source material you're alluding to. Also, I just want you to know that I forgive you for telling me you didn't like hydras for like two months and then signed up to hydra with Prism, although if you really just didn't want to hydra with me I wish you would have just said so

You're fresh, you're spicy, you don't potato as scum and you can give real effort as town. You don't ego push or scream that you're always right but I also wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself for those games where you're wrong on some things. I frankly wish a lot more people on this site played with your fun mix of memes, effort, and capacity. I respect you immensely and hope you don't die because I'd like to play more events with you tomorrow

also

@pink ball, I don't want your money, thanks

-JC

JC recieves 25$!

Pine is a really awesome discussion moderator. He's friendly and fair. He also does a lot of work in the background to handle reports evthough much of this doesn't manfiest itself. He's also fun to be around, and we don't give him (and the other moderators) enough credit for what they do.

~Ircher

Ircher recieves 25$!

Ay Daitisi, I know you probably wont read this but thanks a lot for all your help modding my first game! I honestly would have been lost. Your friendly demeanor and humour is one of the few reasons I log on every day. Also thanks for putting up with my Artbreeder stuff lmao.

-gb

George recieves 25$!

I guess i can contribute until page 80 lasts, this looks like a good thing to do even if we had nothing to gain from it

I will still consider Alyssa, Taly and Krazy to be my friends when this game is over, regardless of our alignments. Games are but a short parenthesis in our lives, and i respect competitiveness when i see it

Hectic is a nice player to have around, he's never mad or toxic around people and has a playstyle that makes the thread feel better

Popsofctown will always be my not-so-secret, unrequited love on ms. I like her playstyle and writing abilities and the attention she puts into details. She is severe, but also impartial to everyone, and that's not easy to be consistent on throughout life difficulties

Prism is a fearsome player that earned my respect in a way that very few other people had in the past. He was THE thorn in my side in undertale, here it's way easier to consider him a friend and a respectable voice to listen to

I think this is Farkran.
Fark recieves 25$

HOLY SHIT THIS WAS REAL
Okay now I'm 99% certain PB and Hectic chose themselves as their picks

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

by the way the day will now end of there is a majority. I forgot to announce this when I concluded the last event, but now I'm just letting everyone know for the sake of it. If you don't reach a majority by deadline, dw, we use plurality rules with a majority option.

The fact plurality is a backup is nice
but imo we shouldn't really need to rely on that

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

What if Blake is scum

Yang too

First off, no, second, why say it this way?

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

I know you're enter from that Hydra

If this is serious you have a major problem with reading comprehension

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

I have recently played a game with scum!gobble, failed hard at reading him so i'm not placing any confidence in that. My experience with titus is limited but i think it's town!titus.

Meta aside, i don't think equitable is scum based on this game's play. I'm going to sleep over this and get back tomorrow with a fresh mind

-Farkran

Straight up this feels like Farkran is hedging a fair amount here.

-Latios

[Latias and Latios]

VOTE: Mikoto and Kuroko
This seems like a solid option, Chemist has stated he's okay with this, and it seems a fair amount of the other slots are down for this.

-Latios

[popsofctown]

Spoiler: Farkran

Town, but I'm feeling really salty that she tried to shoot me down on my alt guess and seems to favor JC over me here
-Latios

CO Blake Belladonna didn't admit it to me when I guessed her disguise right, but not surely, in the Battle of Masons and Mafia. She must think disguises can help even if someone is pretty sure.

--------------------------------------------

CO John Cena, I'm wondering why you started this battle in a disguise but recited many of your signature quotes in a way likely to reveal you. Did you plan to reveal yourself at one point, or did tactics you saw during the battle make you decide to?
Indirect combat units are accumulating on the cells three tiles away from Tag Team egospray, as shown the Superbly Subtle Technology Battle Position Visualizer. I have good intel on CO GeorgeBailey and I have been hoping to see a tactic or two that I can confidently peg as Orange Star due to the lower rank he would get if he joined Black Hole, but I haven't yet found one. So I can't nag COs about this artillery, but I also can't remember why they want to, and I wanna see more of the skinny on why he is with Black Hole.
After reviewing more logging after my catnap, I'm getting the vibe more and more that CO insomnia is Black Hole. He seems to keep saying that CO John Cena is likely Black Hole, but he fully expects CO John Cena to abide by the One Nation Convention on Ethical Warfare signed after the Dual Strike War in how he uses his Vig CO Power. But Black Hole is not a signatory to that convention. While it is possible for CO insomnia to suspect that CO John Cena is Black Hole but not be certain, he's getting very fired up and being unsure would tone down him down if he didn't have a Black Hole dossier that confirms CO John Cena is with Orange Star.
I need to speak with Hawke about our artillery position, which I would like to move towards Tag Team Despair Night, but the current position is definitely a no go so UNVOTE:

Preview technology shows Hawke has just spoken. He may be ticked I don't have my walkie talkie right now, but I will in a few hours.

Can you elaborate more on your thought process about insomnia after reading 1723? Both the quoted part from insomnia and my objection to it. I really don't think that scum!insomnia would back off from joining a town!DA wagon if that's what you are implying in this post of yours.
-Farkran

A Black Hole CO John Cena is very aware that when he gets emotional he should do your "A" or "B". The bad "C" would be behaving like a Black Hole officer who is very angry that he is being attacked for reasons that are wrong. CO John Cena's bizarre threat to shoot CO insomnia but possibly not hurt Orange Star by means of sparing CO JunkoChan is a bizarre option Omega.
I am intepreting the way he reached option Omega as seeming to be a new Orange Star, and Blake has highlighted the strategic reason an Orange Star CO might add it to the strategy book for the novel possibilities available in this game. You and Hawke seem to find it a pattern that would fit Black Hole.
I do not think CO insomnia's response to option Omega has been very much like Orange Star, do you? I don't remember whether he thinks CO John Cena is Black Hole or not now. I don't think it's damning if he's undecided, I did decide to label his unique response specially, but he claimed he was confident provoking CO John Cena would give him vision, but now picked what gives him the most options later.

Spoiler: John Cena

Ok
Lots of people have vig shots on only one head after today
People shouldn't use those vig shots night 1 because of the claimed universal lightning rod
Likewise people should not use the second hood shot at night because of the claimed universal lightning rod
But we would want anyone that can have a hood going into night 2 to have a hood if they are going to take a vig shot, particularly if they can hood someone who is strong town and also has a second vig shot given we only get the scum flip if both heads die.
So scattering vig shots is bad for town and coordinating vig shots day 2 with day activated hoods among living players would be good
-JC

You think this is the best way to use our funds? You additionally think we should augment this strategy by listing our walkie talkie channels for anyone who is curious, so that Black Hole Army has the option to use Roleblock CO Power on specific neighbors to keep a Tag Team in the game, or have the option to use Doctor CO Power on a player that would clearly be the expected compromise between members of a walkie talkie channel?
I disagree with buying either of these CO powers, because I think CO powers that grant vision are far more powerful and any battle where they aren't more powerful has already been won from natural vision. But I'm annoyed you don't see the value in classifying information.

Spoiler:

I think the lynchpool should consist of:
Disaster Artists
Egospray
Smol Might
Mikoto and Kuroko
The Searchers
Despair Night
There are a few other slots I'd be willing to lynch but that don't provide a good return in terms of info; thus, they should not be focused upon.
~Ircher

I do not like this document, and I think I even recognize the handwriting from a Black Hole Army Stenographer who used to write my own ideas down.
I have no gripe with Tag Team The Searchers being in this list because CO Ircher battles in that style.
But it's whack that Tag Team Despair Night and Tag Team Disaster Artists are both in this list after their violent infantry skirmish. If CO Ircher thinks they are both Orange Star, they shouldn't be listed. If CO Ircher thinks one is Black Hole and one is not, only that one should be listed. If CO Ircher thinks both are likely to be Black Hole: In practice in my experience in battles, whenever a CO witnesses a skirmish they believe is fake, there is usually one "bad actor" who gives it away it is natural to have more enthusiasm for that one.
What the two Tag Teams seem to have in common is having 0 stars of terrain defense at the moment, and it is a Black Hole strategy to pick enemies on streams and shoal tiles.

Spoiler: John Cena

@pops, I just want you to know I appreciate you. I have no idea what your alignment is this game but you're always fun to play with, even when you're doing a really dank meme that isn't working at all since almost no one is familiar with the source material you're alluding to. Also, I just want you to know that I forgive you for telling me you didn't like hydras for like two months and then signed up to hydra with Prism, although if you really just didn't want to hydra with me I wish you would have just said so
You're fresh, you're spicy, you don't potato as scum and you can give real effort as town. You don't ego push or scream that you're always right but I also wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself for those games where you're wrong on some things. I frankly wish a lot more people on this site played with your fun mix of memes, effort, and capacity. I respect you immensely and hope you don't die because I'd like to play more events with you tomorrow

also

@pink ball, I don't want your money, thanks

-JC

You're too nice.
My main beef with Tag Teams is most battles have some COs in a Tag Team and some COs solo. I rejected Hawke's invite until I made sure this game would not imitate the problem by allowing three hydras.
I accepted the first invitation that wasn't awful, which happened to be the last invitation at all. Cause I'm sassy.

You may notice that I showed interest in Jingle's battle but then left expressly because it would have too much imbalance in the number of COs per tag team.
I am sorry if you didn't follow my hits and misses on this.

Spoiler: Farkran

She is severe

Oh no, Hawke is supposed to be the severe one. I'm trying my best to be as loose I was a war ago, but it's tricky.

Spoiler: Ircher

Thank you SirCakez for being one of the first moderators that I met on this site. Your games have always been interesting, and I think it's partly due to you that I stuck around this site.

Hectic, I really appreciate your playstyle. Even though I've played very few games with you, you've already made a large impact. Your playstyle is entertaining, and it reminds us all that mafia is a game.

~Ircher

True! Be sure to remember that ground wars are also a game.

Spoiler:

I missed it. But I like the concept of the drill and will share what I had ready anyway.
It meant a lot to me that CO Ausuka stepped into replace CO Mathdino's role overseeing the Battle of Monty Hall Mafia. The COs were all owed a rousing battle and it does not seem she craved a promotion to the position but she did an excellent job. I don't know if I ever properly thanked her. This battle when she has increased the number of units she needs to command due to Datisi relinquishing some of his command it seemed like de ja vu from a CO that is just characteristically thoughtful. I look forward to battling her.

This is the post that clears me
Why are you saying you have to battle Ausuka? Are you different alignments?
Ba dum tssss
I’m skating on this til Day 3 if someone shoots me by then you are yucky
~som

We are all battling, to determine who is Orange Star and who is Black Hole. It's important to battle with weak units so our impressions aren't final. When we are sure a CO is with Black Hole, we will finish them with enough simultaneous strikes from indirect combat units.
My current feeling is CO Ausuka is with Orange Star. I'm not highly certain, but we have lots of echoing thoughts, including that CO GeorgeBailey's abandoned push wasn't inherently disingenuous.

G) I guess i could have merged this with F but i didn't and now i don't want to reorganize all the letters

This one's my favorite

[popsofctown]

I'm not psyched by the push on CO Titus because I feel like I remember being annoyed about her working with people she didn't even know to be an ally while I served with Black Hole. I don't recall the exact battle. It fits her personality. Both CO John Cena and CO Spiffeh seem to think she is Black Hole for not having their approach to the game.

I think the walkie talkie data is enough to at minimum postpone artillery strikes for Tag Team egospray.

I'm chatting with Hawke about my vote.
He is mad he thinks my thoughts move faster than his. Teehee.

[Black Hole Defection]

I'm not psyched by the push on CO Titus because I feel like I remember being annoyed about her working with people she didn't even know to be an ally while I served with Black Hole. I don't recall the exact battle. It fits her personality. Both CO John Cena and CO Spiffeh seem to think she is Black Hole for not having their approach to the game.

I think the walkie talkie data is enough to at minimum postpone artillery strikes for Tag Team egospray.

I'm chatting with Hawke about my vote.
He is mad he thinks my thoughts move faster than his. Teehee.

[Black Hole Defection]

Spoiler: Farkran

Town, but I'm feeling really salty that she tried to shoot me down on my alt guess and seems to favor JC over me here
-Latios

CO Blake Belladonna didn't admit it to me when I guessed her disguise right, but not surely, in the Battle of Masons and Mafia. She must think disguises can help even if someone is pretty sure.

--------------------------------------------

CO John Cena, I'm wondering why you started this battle in a disguise but recited many of your signature quotes in a way likely to reveal you. Did you plan to reveal yourself at one point, or did tactics you saw during the battle make you decide to?
Indirect combat units are accumulating on the cells three tiles away from Tag Team egospray, as shown the Superbly Subtle Technology Battle Position Visualizer. I have good intel on CO GeorgeBailey and I have been hoping to see a tactic or two that I can confidently peg as Orange Star due to the lower rank he would get if he joined Black Hole, but I haven't yet found one. So I can't nag COs about this artillery, but I also can't remember why they want to, and I wanna see more of the skinny on why he is with Black Hole.
After reviewing more logging after my catnap, I'm getting the vibe more and more that CO insomnia is Black Hole. He seems to keep saying that CO John Cena is likely Black Hole, but he fully expects CO John Cena to abide by the One Nation Convention on Ethical Warfare signed after the Dual Strike War in how he uses his Vig CO Power. But Black Hole is not a signatory to that convention. While it is possible for CO insomnia to suspect that CO John Cena is Black Hole but not be certain, he's getting very fired up and being unsure would tone down him down if he didn't have a Black Hole dossier that confirms CO John Cena is with Orange Star.
I need to speak with Hawke about our artillery position, which I would like to move towards Tag Team Despair Night, but the current position is definitely a no go so UNVOTE:

Preview technology shows Hawke has just spoken. He may be ticked I don't have my walkie talkie right now, but I will in a few hours.

Can you elaborate more on your thought process about insomnia after reading 1723? Both the quoted part from insomnia and my objection to it. I really don't think that scum!insomnia would back off from joining a town!DA wagon if that's what you are implying in this post of yours.
-Farkran

A Black Hole CO John Cena is very aware that when he gets emotional he should do your "A" or "B". The bad "C" would be behaving like a Black Hole officer who is very angry that he is being attacked for reasons that are wrong. CO John Cena's bizarre threat to shoot CO insomnia but possibly not hurt Orange Star by means of sparing CO JunkoChan is a bizarre option Omega.
I am intepreting the way he reached option Omega as seeming to be a new Orange Star, and Blake has highlighted the strategic reason an Orange Star CO might add it to the strategy book for the novel possibilities available in this game. You and Hawke seem to find it a pattern that would fit Black Hole.
I do not think CO insomnia's response to option Omega has been very much like Orange Star, do you? I don't remember whether he thinks CO John Cena is Black Hole or not now. I don't think it's damning if he's undecided, I did decide to label his unique response specially, but he claimed he was confident provoking CO John Cena would give him vision, but now picked what gives him the most options later.

Spoiler: John Cena

Ok
Lots of people have vig shots on only one head after today
People shouldn't use those vig shots night 1 because of the claimed universal lightning rod
Likewise people should not use the second hood shot at night because of the claimed universal lightning rod
But we would want anyone that can have a hood going into night 2 to have a hood if they are going to take a vig shot, particularly if they can hood someone who is strong town and also has a second vig shot given we only get the scum flip if both heads die.
So scattering vig shots is bad for town and coordinating vig shots day 2 with day activated hoods among living players would be good
-JC

You think this is the best way to use our funds? You additionally think we should augment this strategy by listing our walkie talkie channels for anyone who is curious, so that Black Hole Army has the option to use Roleblock CO Power on specific neighbors to keep a Tag Team in the game, or have the option to use Doctor CO Power on a player that would clearly be the expected compromise between members of a walkie talkie channel?
I disagree with buying either of these CO powers, because I think CO powers that grant vision are far more powerful and any battle where they aren't more powerful has already been won from natural vision. But I'm annoyed you don't see the value in classifying information.

Spoiler:

I think the lynchpool should consist of:
Disaster Artists
Egospray
Smol Might
Mikoto and Kuroko
The Searchers
Despair Night
There are a few other slots I'd be willing to lynch but that don't provide a good return in terms of info; thus, they should not be focused upon.
~Ircher

I do not like this document, and I think I even recognize the handwriting from a Black Hole Army Stenographer who used to write my own ideas down.
I have no gripe with Tag Team The Searchers being in this list because CO Ircher battles in that style.
But it's whack that Tag Team Despair Night and Tag Team Disaster Artists are both in this list after their violent infantry skirmish. If CO Ircher thinks they are both Orange Star, they shouldn't be listed. If CO Ircher thinks one is Black Hole and one is not, only that one should be listed. If CO Ircher thinks both are likely to be Black Hole: In practice in my experience in battles, whenever a CO witnesses a skirmish they believe is fake, there is usually one "bad actor" who gives it away it is natural to have more enthusiasm for that one.
What the two Tag Teams seem to have in common is having 0 stars of terrain defense at the moment, and it is a Black Hole strategy to pick enemies on streams and shoal tiles.

Spoiler: John Cena

@pops, I just want you to know I appreciate you. I have no idea what your alignment is this game but you're always fun to play with, even when you're doing a really dank meme that isn't working at all since almost no one is familiar with the source material you're alluding to. Also, I just want you to know that I forgive you for telling me you didn't like hydras for like two months and then signed up to hydra with Prism, although if you really just didn't want to hydra with me I wish you would have just said so
You're fresh, you're spicy, you don't potato as scum and you can give real effort as town. You don't ego push or scream that you're always right but I also wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself for those games where you're wrong on some things. I frankly wish a lot more people on this site played with your fun mix of memes, effort, and capacity. I respect you immensely and hope you don't die because I'd like to play more events with you tomorrow

also

@pink ball, I don't want your money, thanks

-JC

You're too nice.
My main beef with Tag Teams is most battles have some COs in a Tag Team and some COs solo. I rejected Hawke's invite until I made sure this game would not imitate the problem by allowing three hydras.
I accepted the first invitation that wasn't awful, which happened to be the last invitation at all. Cause I'm sassy.

You may notice that I showed interest in Jingle's battle but then left expressly because it would have too much imbalance in the number of COs per tag team.
I am sorry if you didn't follow my hits and misses on this.

Spoiler: Farkran

She is severe

Oh no, Hawke is supposed to be the severe one. I'm trying my best to be as loose I was a war ago, but it's tricky.

Spoiler: Ircher

Thank you SirCakez for being one of the first moderators that I met on this site. Your games have always been interesting, and I think it's partly due to you that I stuck around this site.

Hectic, I really appreciate your playstyle. Even though I've played very few games with you, you've already made a large impact. Your playstyle is entertaining, and it reminds us all that mafia is a game.

~Ircher

True! Be sure to remember that ground wars are also a game.

Spoiler:

I missed it. But I like the concept of the drill and will share what I had ready anyway.
It meant a lot to me that CO Ausuka stepped into replace CO Mathdino's role overseeing the Battle of Monty Hall Mafia. The COs were all owed a rousing battle and it does not seem she craved a promotion to the position but she did an excellent job. I don't know if I ever properly thanked her. This battle when she has increased the number of units she needs to command due to Datisi relinquishing some of his command it seemed like de ja vu from a CO that is just characteristically thoughtful. I look forward to battling her.

This is the post that clears me
Why are you saying you have to battle Ausuka? Are you different alignments?
Ba dum tssss
I’m skating on this til Day 3 if someone shoots me by then you are yucky
~som

We are all battling, to determine who is Orange Star and who is Black Hole. It's important to battle with weak units so our impressions aren't final. When we are sure a CO is with Black Hole, we will finish them with enough simultaneous strikes from indirect combat units.
My current feeling is CO Ausuka is with Orange Star. I'm not highly certain, but we have lots of echoing thoughts, including that CO GeorgeBailey's abandoned push wasn't inherently disingenuous.

G) I guess i could have merged this with F but i didn't and now i don't want to reorganize all the letters

This one's my favorite

[Black Hole Defection]

What the hell??!?!?!?!

[Black Hole Defection]

Spoiler: Farkran

Town, but I'm feeling really salty that she tried to shoot me down on my alt guess and seems to favor JC over me here
-Latios

CO Blake Belladonna didn't admit it to me when I guessed her disguise right, but not surely, in the Battle of Masons and Mafia. She must think disguises can help even if someone is pretty sure.

--------------------------------------------

CO John Cena, I'm wondering why you started this battle in a disguise but recited many of your signature quotes in a way likely to reveal you. Did you plan to reveal yourself at one point, or did tactics you saw during the battle make you decide to?
Indirect combat units are accumulating on the cells three tiles away from Tag Team egospray, as shown the Superbly Subtle Technology Battle Position Visualizer. I have good intel on CO GeorgeBailey and I have been hoping to see a tactic or two that I can confidently peg as Orange Star due to the lower rank he would get if he joined Black Hole, but I haven't yet found one. So I can't nag COs about this artillery, but I also can't remember why they want to, and I wanna see more of the skinny on why he is with Black Hole.
After reviewing more logging after my catnap, I'm getting the vibe more and more that CO insomnia is Black Hole. He seems to keep saying that CO John Cena is likely Black Hole, but he fully expects CO John Cena to abide by the One Nation Convention on Ethical Warfare signed after the Dual Strike War in how he uses his Vig CO Power. But Black Hole is not a signatory to that convention. While it is possible for CO insomnia to suspect that CO John Cena is Black Hole but not be certain, he's getting very fired up and being unsure would tone down him down if he didn't have a Black Hole dossier that confirms CO John Cena is with Orange Star.
I need to speak with Hawke about our artillery position, which I would like to move towards Tag Team Despair Night, but the current position is definitely a no go so UNVOTE:

Preview technology shows Hawke has just spoken. He may be ticked I don't have my walkie talkie right now, but I will in a few hours.

Can you elaborate more on your thought process about insomnia after reading 1723? Both the quoted part from insomnia and my objection to it. I really don't think that scum!insomnia would back off from joining a town!DA wagon if that's what you are implying in this post of yours.
-Farkran

A Black Hole CO John Cena is very aware that when he gets emotional he should do your "A" or "B". The bad "C" would be behaving like a Black Hole officer who is very angry that he is being attacked for reasons that are wrong. CO John Cena's bizarre threat to shoot CO insomnia but possibly not hurt Orange Star by means of sparing CO JunkoChan is a bizarre option Omega.
I am intepreting the way he reached option Omega as seeming to be a new Orange Star, and Blake has highlighted the strategic reason an Orange Star CO might add it to the strategy book for the novel possibilities available in this game. You and Hawke seem to find it a pattern that would fit Black Hole.
I do not think CO insomnia's response to option Omega has been very much like Orange Star, do you? I don't remember whether he thinks CO John Cena is Black Hole or not now. I don't think it's damning if he's undecided, I did decide to label his unique response specially, but he claimed he was confident provoking CO John Cena would give him vision, but now picked what gives him the most options later.

Spoiler: John Cena

Ok
Lots of people have vig shots on only one head after today
People shouldn't use those vig shots night 1 because of the claimed universal lightning rod
Likewise people should not use the second hood shot at night because of the claimed universal lightning rod
But we would want anyone that can have a hood going into night 2 to have a hood if they are going to take a vig shot, particularly if they can hood someone who is strong town and also has a second vig shot given we only get the scum flip if both heads die.
So scattering vig shots is bad for town and coordinating vig shots day 2 with day activated hoods among living players would be good
-JC

You think this is the best way to use our funds? You additionally think we should augment this strategy by listing our walkie talkie channels for anyone who is curious, so that Black Hole Army has the option to use Roleblock CO Power on specific neighbors to keep a Tag Team in the game, or have the option to use Doctor CO Power on a player that would clearly be the expected compromise between members of a walkie talkie channel?
I disagree with buying either of these CO powers, because I think CO powers that grant vision are far more powerful and any battle where they aren't more powerful has already been won from natural vision. But I'm annoyed you don't see the value in classifying information.

Spoiler:

I think the lynchpool should consist of:
Disaster Artists
Egospray
Smol Might
Mikoto and Kuroko
The Searchers
Despair Night
There are a few other slots I'd be willing to lynch but that don't provide a good return in terms of info; thus, they should not be focused upon.
~Ircher

I do not like this document, and I think I even recognize the handwriting from a Black Hole Army Stenographer who used to write my own ideas down.
I have no gripe with Tag Team The Searchers being in this list because CO Ircher battles in that style.
But it's whack that Tag Team Despair Night and Tag Team Disaster Artists are both in this list after their violent infantry skirmish. If CO Ircher thinks they are both Orange Star, they shouldn't be listed. If CO Ircher thinks one is Black Hole and one is not, only that one should be listed. If CO Ircher thinks both are likely to be Black Hole: In practice in my experience in battles, whenever a CO witnesses a skirmish they believe is fake, there is usually one "bad actor" who gives it away it is natural to have more enthusiasm for that one.
What the two Tag Teams seem to have in common is having 0 stars of terrain defense at the moment, and it is a Black Hole strategy to pick enemies on streams and shoal tiles.

Spoiler: John Cena

@pops, I just want you to know I appreciate you. I have no idea what your alignment is this game but you're always fun to play with, even when you're doing a really dank meme that isn't working at all since almost no one is familiar with the source material you're alluding to. Also, I just want you to know that I forgive you for telling me you didn't like hydras for like two months and then signed up to hydra with Prism, although if you really just didn't want to hydra with me I wish you would have just said so
You're fresh, you're spicy, you don't potato as scum and you can give real effort as town. You don't ego push or scream that you're always right but I also wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself for those games where you're wrong on some things. I frankly wish a lot more people on this site played with your fun mix of memes, effort, and capacity. I respect you immensely and hope you don't die because I'd like to play more events with you tomorrow

also

@pink ball, I don't want your money, thanks

-JC

You're too nice.
My main beef with Tag Teams is most battles have some COs in a Tag Team and some COs solo. I rejected Hawke's invite until I made sure this game would not imitate the problem by allowing three hydras.
I accepted the first invitation that wasn't awful, which happened to be the last invitation at all. Cause I'm sassy.

You may notice that I showed interest in Jingle's battle but then left expressly because it would have too much imbalance in the number of COs per tag team.
I am sorry if you didn't follow my hits and misses on this.

Spoiler: Farkran

She is severe

Oh no, Hawke is supposed to be the severe one. I'm trying my best to be as loose I was a war ago, but it's tricky.

Spoiler: Ircher

Thank you SirCakez for being one of the first moderators that I met on this site. Your games have always been interesting, and I think it's partly due to you that I stuck around this site.

Hectic, I really appreciate your playstyle. Even though I've played very few games with you, you've already made a large impact. Your playstyle is entertaining, and it reminds us all that mafia is a game.

~Ircher

True! Be sure to remember that ground wars are also a game.

Spoiler:

I missed it. But I like the concept of the drill and will share what I had ready anyway.
It meant a lot to me that CO Ausuka stepped into replace CO Mathdino's role overseeing the Battle of Monty Hall Mafia. The COs were all owed a rousing battle and it does not seem she craved a promotion to the position but she did an excellent job. I don't know if I ever properly thanked her. This battle when she has increased the number of units she needs to command due to Datisi relinquishing some of his command it seemed like de ja vu from a CO that is just characteristically thoughtful. I look forward to battling her.

This is the post that clears me
Why are you saying you have to battle Ausuka? Are you different alignments?
Ba dum tssss
I’m skating on this til Day 3 if someone shoots me by then you are yucky
~som

We are all battling, to determine who is Orange Star and who is Black Hole. It's important to battle with weak units so our impressions aren't final. When we are sure a CO is with Black Hole, we will finish them with enough simultaneous strikes from indirect combat units.
My current feeling is CO Ausuka is with Orange Star. I'm not highly certain, but we have lots of echoing thoughts, including that CO GeorgeBailey's abandoned push wasn't inherently disingenuous.

G) I guess i could have merged this with F but i didn't and now i don't want to reorganize all the letters

This one's my favorite

[Latias and Latios]

What the hell??!?!?!?!

You must have nested quotes+spoilers in a screwy way

[Disaster Artists]

U done broke the internet

-JC

[Latias and Latios]

Doing stuff like this

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Tends to invoke site-breaking elder magic

-Latios

[Black Hole Defection]

Why does Orange Star make me operate tech I didn't invent myself!
UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!

[Black Hole Defection]

I don't think Tag Team Mikoto x Kuroko is a very likely to be with Black Hole, CO Grimm.

[Disaster Artists]

Are you in the 'scum is in the lurkers' camp then?

-JC

[Black Hole Defection]

I think most of the Black Hole COs are either lurking or the sort that do not seem attactive to destroy day one irrespective of alignment.
I think CO Farkran, and to a lesser extent a CO Mikoro who has not played yet but spontaneously might, also has this second trait, but I do not expect other COs to agree about that.

[Black Hole Defection]

I feel pretty good about the Searchers slot. My only issue with it early was the discrepancy between the "Spiffeh/Fire haven't done anything AI" and the 34% from Ircher. This is fully explained by the first statement being SC's, and it was clearly signed. After staring at this ISO for ~2 hours, I have seen no read or progression that I don't find believable. I am comfortable slotting this as town.

I spent a lot of time reading into their DN progression in particular. Virtually everything they quote about DN early on is tone. Both heads are in agreement over this. When DN starts laying down more concrete reasoning this slowly switches gears: Ircher goes out of his way to take the Spiffeh case point by point but appears to come away with a negative impression, SC seems to like it but isn't yet sold. #1950 I think shows the most town intent here-the post they link of insomnia's is noticeably extremely different from the ones they were scumreading. My only issue with it is that it came a bit after the fact iirc.

I found Spiffeh's #556 and #576 strangely ingratiating, given that I'm not friends with Spiffeh and I think only played one game with him (maybe 2?). Considering I was one of the people questioning Spiffeh's approach, #381 and #404. #634 by Searchers picked up on this, but I guess is not very AI if they're already pushing Spiffybringer.

#1278 and #2007 both claim to not know the setup is publicly 4-13. #1278 I can see why this was an important qualification to make. #2007 is a bit more of a stretch. Overall I buy the claim but I won't bet my savings on it.

SC's unwillingness to out his scumleans is irrational and should stop imo, but is consistent with #912 and #913. This is still the same game, and SC might just be very reluctant to commit to reads as scum, but everything about the rest of his play and how readily he's given reads points to this not being the case to me.

[Black Hole Defection]

I still want to vote DA but this will not be happening. We have spent literally hours debating this. At some point whether pops could think of a plausible reason for me to spend $20 on a phone game as opposed to herself I somehow found relevant enough to not only bring up, but relevant enough to spend another 10 minutes hashing out. At some point you have to give up and move on.

by the way I think I might be moving our vote to M&K since that seems to be Chemist's strongest scumread rn and my scumread strength isn't defined very effectively yet.

I want to hear Chemist explain this.

I spent awhile last night contemplating how I would have chosen Disaster Artist's #56/#57 to shove on. I decided to wait to see what happened from your posts instead.

Why those two posts by Disaster Artist?

- Beep

I didn't like that they were blatantly filler and voting the mod. I touched on this in some game thread-I think Clue-that I'm too tired to find now, but at some point I decided that they were likely NAI and just shoved Cena to the side for the moment. Had I chosen to push on a post that had been made, those would have been it though-and it made me curious as to why Spiffy chose Feminist's.

[Black Hole Defection]

I really wanted to get to Blake/Yang tonight but my head is not cooperating. I'm sorry Farkran; I'll be back tomorrow.