Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[humaneatingmonkey]

Scum!TM
HEM + PP + TM = TM loses. (PP will never lynch Planes)
PP + TM + Planes = TM loses. (PP will never lynch Planes)
TM + Planes + HEM = Planes loses. (I've said desire to lynch Planes)

[humaneatingmonkey]

Scum!Planes
HEM + Planes + TM = Planes loses.
PP + Planes + TM = Planes wins.
PP + Planes + HEM = Planes wins.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why would scum!Planes go through all that trouble of bringing me to LYLO?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Unless scum!Planes think PP might catch on that scum!TM will never put himself in a losing situation?

[humaneatingmonkey]

My head hurts.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I found this thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48482

[Tuxedo Mask]

Thanks, going through Yooh's ISO again.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I can see these arguments as equal:
> Scum!Planes will be careful not to make Peter Pan think that he was brought to LYLO to lynch TM. Because scum!TM will never bring PP to LYLO.
> Scum!TM will never bring PP to LYLO, and I have previously expressed desire to lynch Planes.

I can see why PP was killed instead of me. This is a good LYLO.

I think the answer to who is scum between the two of you can be found in D1 and D2. HG is right.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'll read HG's clidd case.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Reading Aloratom - 3Bounty, I think it is Town vs Town conversation.

I mean I hammered because I townread the majority of the wagon

I'm more inclined she hammered because she didn't want her wagon provide more info right now.

Would you have hammered Alo D1?

No, I wouldn't.

I don't know what is your point here but I already said my problem is not the hammer's reason, but how the hammer is done.

@3Bounty : Any read so far?

These are the direct interactions between 3B and Yooh, this is the lowest of low ball conversations.

Yooh consistently town reads 3B, the only time there is shade is Yoo says that BOTH scum are on the Day 1 Lynch. Which by the way is a very easy lynch pool for scum Yooh to win with.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Got more incoming, their interactions with Kirari are a bit of a hot mess.

Also, Planes seemed the most prepared for the unexpected Kirari killing and used it as a way to fast track the death of HG as you suspected. They came in swinging that with a vote on Holden, and using the kill to shade Holden even further.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Make your case. Right now, I'm on the camp that it's you.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Do you think Yooh interactions with 3b would only come from scum!Yooh and not town!Yooh?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Can we all agree on a timeframe in which all three of us are gonna make a final stand? Truth be told, I had enough of this game and I want to suggest a 6-hour blitz to get this over with.

I'm available 10PM to 6AM GMT +8 every day.

[Tuxedo Mask]

Yeah, I'm trying to organize things.

Do you think Yooh interactions with 3b would only come from scum!Yooh and not town!Yooh?

Not only no, but in the context of this game, it's strange that Yooh is so hyper-focused on the Day 1 lynch. Obsessed with it and doesn't even acknowledge 3B. Why the gambit against Kirari? Like Day 2 evolved to be Kirari Vs. 3B a Town!Yooh should be delighted with that, but they aren't. They're obsessed with killing Kirari specifically, the day 1 claim jokes from them probably fooled the newbie scum team, just like they caught the newbie PR. His gambit is designed to take out the remaining PR, and at every possible step only helps scum.

If Kirari claimed town friendly neighbor their plan was to kill the person they visited and then kill the PR?!

[Rectiplanes]

Got more incoming, their interactions with Kirari are a bit of a hot mess.

Also, Planes seemed the most prepared for the unexpected Kirari killing and used it as a way to fast track the death of HG as you suspected. They came in swinging that with a vote on Holden, and using the kill to shade Holden even further.

You aren't even trying to make a case for HEM, are you? Because I kinda could, I just view it as way behind the likelihood of scum-you. But there's no hesitation... right into 1vs1 with me.

I was surprised by the Kirari killing, and came up with two explanations, both of which were wrong. Why would scum-me stick his neck out like that... to hang HG, who was fairly heavily scumread?

Anyways, if it is HEM, and we're following his plan -

Spoiler: Deaths are according to HEM's Master Plan?

ok

im getting a little impatient

i do think it's kirari and 3bounty. i can't underestimate kirari's scumplay and say she's town because of her posts. it's obvious that our last scum (if scum!3bounty is correct) is a powerscum who acts like town. In my recent re-read, I was trying to find town posts that meant to stir the conversation into pro-scum situations. Her PR bait and hard defense of 3bounty comes to mind. Not to mention, she throws around scum teams like peanuts without narrowing her POV. Also, she proposes a scum!LL scenario which makes no sense but puts it out there anyway and asks people to seriously consider it. Recently, in 3bounty's last posts, he reminds it of us.

i was doing a thing in which i'm trying to bait kirari's replacement to hint that LL could be scum, and should be lynched. i never thought it was possible.

If you guys agree, I want to speed this game up by doing 3bounty > Kirari > HG. Deal?

Hmm.... hmm.

[Tuxedo Mask]

I'm stuck at home, so I can do that.

I'm reading HEM's ISO as we speak, Yooh is the one I went to because they've always been apart of POE. I haven't voted you yet, I'm not foolish.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Please say you guys agree to a 6-hour blitz.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, I'm not following your case on me. Why is that scum indicative?

[Tuxedo Mask]

Please say you guys agree to a 6-hour blitz.

I agree.

[Rectiplanes]

Fine, we'll end this in the next six hours.

HEM, I'm saying that, in terms of WIFOM-inducing bullshit, you seem to the the most comfortable with it. And the way things are going, well, it is in accordance with your preferred order of players being eliminated (as stated, 3b, Kirari, Holden). It might well be you... on the other hand, Holden's case against Tux's slot is pretty good. And Clidd not eventually making up his mind, pressure or not, to lynch 3bounty...

[Rectiplanes]

You know, fuck it. No points for timidity.

VOTE: TuxedoMask

Alea iacta est

[Tuxedo Mask]

Holden if you're scum, congrats, at least I can close your ISO now. Still organizing stuff on Yooh.

[Rectiplanes]

UNVOTE: TuxedoMask

[Tuxedo Mask]

>Tux, it's scummy you wanna go straight to 1V1

>Initiates 1V1