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In post 2173, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 2170, Menalque wrote:Okay, so unless titus has a compelling reason for there being no scum on the umlaut wagon I think we can all get on board with icon choosing between (maxwell, ali) today, reinvestigating (datisi, moment, maybe nk15) then tomorrow we execute the other in (ali, maxwell) if it’s not GG and then N4 we invest GL if the game isn’t over by that point?

eh, I think the D3 plan for today is fine, but on D4 we need Ico again to decide the execution and the investigation

Well, we can go back to one of our earlier plans for communally deciding two or more executions and letting Icon choose between them. I don't want to leave it entirely up to Icon there and I imagine it doesn't really want that either.

I think your point is that playing "execute/investigate solely in known not-TDs" forever is too limiting which I do agree with and was about to post something similar.

oh you just said that basically.

In post 2170, Menalque wrote:Cool

Okay, so unless titus has a compelling reason for there being no scum on the umlaut wagon I think we can all get on board with icon choosing between (maxwell, ali) today, reinvestigating (datisi, moment, maybe nk15) then tomorrow we execute the other in (ali, maxwell) if it’s not GG and then N4 we invest GL if the game isn’t over by that point?

I think there are really good reasons not to see GL as scum. I don't know why at all you'd rule Hel out over him.

He's mostly focused on the Umlaut counterwagon to notsci, of Alisae/Maxwell/Norway/GL voters. I think it's fair to assume one scum on there if you value VCA over looking at associatives

i have a strong preference to investigate datis + moment without adding anyone

also i think there's no point for me to stall the execution because it should be obvious Ali is gonna eat cake here

that's wrong btw. the day's pool should be either 1 person or 3. 1 if we're investing outside and the person is likely to eat an execution the next day *anyway*, or 3 if we're going for rechecks/clears as that (greatly) increases the odds we actually hit guilTea that we have enough checks/executions to guarantee a scum execution in time.

In post 2179, Datisi wrote:that's wrong btw. the day's pool should be either 1 person or 3. 1 if we're investing outside and the person is likely to eat an execution the next day *anyway*, or 3 if we're going for rechecks/clears as that (greatly) increases the odds we actually hit guilTea

and

that we have enough checks/executions to guarantee a scum execution in time.

i see it as confirmation that your bracket is clear, + we (read: you guys) get the ability to scumhunt. And if we don't hit scum, we can still do a new invest tomorrow

Cool so

Can we get dats and moment on wheat

And get ali flipped ?

@icon I actually wouldn’t hate having maxwell on but I get it if not

Mostly I feel like he’s the obvious guillo for tomorrow and I’d like to start re-evaluating early if that’s wrong

I would like to hear from moment on maxwell before we end day tho

In post 2180, Iconeum wrote:

In post 2179, Datisi wrote:that's wrong btw. the day's pool should be either 1 person or 3. 1 if we're investing outside and the person is likely to eat an execution the next day *anyway*, or 3 if we're going for rechecks/clears as that (greatly) increases the odds we actually hit guilTea

and

that we have enough checks/executions to guarantee a scum execution in time.

i see it as confirmation that your bracket is clear, + we (read: you guys) get the ability to scumhunt. And if we don't hit scum, we can still do a new invest tomorrow

except we don't need the confirmation if we get scum in the pool. tea in the pool of three is still a guaranteed scum execution by day 5, and is much more valuable than two clears that realistically tell us nothing.

In post 2184, Datisi wrote:

In post 2180, Iconeum wrote:

In post 2179, Datisi wrote:that's wrong btw. the day's pool should be either 1 person or 3. 1 if we're investing outside and the person is likely to eat an execution the next day *anyway*, or 3 if we're going for rechecks/clears as that (greatly) increases the odds we actually hit guilTea

and

that we have enough checks/executions to guarantee a scum execution in time.

i see it as confirmation that your bracket is clear, + we (read: you guys) get the ability to scumhunt. And if we don't hit scum, we can still do a new invest tomorrow

except we don't need the confirmation if we get scum in the pool. tea in the pool of three is still a guaranteed scum execution by day 5, and is much more valuable than two clears that realistically tell us nothing.

This is correct

I think a maxwell addition would actually be very helpful because it means scum is getting by pretty well a day early

Can i vote Alisae yet?

In post 2187, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Can i vote Alisae yet?

We’re waiting for moment to come back/for the right people to be on the right things for the invest

Talking of

In post 2186, Menalque wrote:I think a maxwell addition would actually be very helpful because it means scum is getting by pretty well a day early

I think people can weigh in on me and let Ico decide. It's a rather awkward position from my view where I can't really say much, but I understand why people are giving me the side-eye.

I agree with the general proposition of adding a 3rd name to the inspection, though.

Okay I literally realized why finding tea in a pool of three guarantees we hit scum on or before Day 5 (because we can re-check one in case we misexectute on day 4 to be guaranteed to execute correctly on day 5). I wrote out a whole saying "am I the stupid one here for thinking three is one too many?" and it turns out yes, I am the stupid one.

So yes, I definitely agree we need one more in this inspection. Maxwell isn't a bad choice, neither is Hel.

(Maybe we should inspect copper today and have the three individuals ship copper, just to mix it up a )

Adding hel would also be fine but less preferable than maxwell

I'd much rather NK15 be the third than either Maxwell or Hel, but of those two I would prefer it to be Hel

Why?

Like maybe I’m being simpleminded here but my brain says “notscience = scumwagon, therefore umlaut = counterwagon to scum, therefore scum on counterwagon, therefore scum in (GL, ali, maxwell)”

If I’m wrong I’d much rather know sooner than later, and the fastest way to know is guillotining ali and checking maxwell

Hel is just weird mostly

Mena
do u want a hint