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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:10 am
by Isis
has anyone ever rolled a radarcowbells rand where he's always in the scum pt telling the mod "don't count me as confirmed for the game yet I need my pregame playbooking" and there's like 2 pockets and a bus planned by noon

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:12 am
by tea leaves
Your excitement case is bamboozling to me, Farren. There's only so much you can read from 3 exclamation marks; you're extrapolating a tad much there.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:13 am
by Isis
my main thing with tea leaves is I don't believe he townreads me

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:13 am
by tea leaves
I once played against scum!Radiant as Eve. He hard pocketed me and I hammered wrongly in LyLo...

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:13 am
by Farren
Apparently I'm not being paranoid enough.

PEdit> Are you saying you were not excited there, tea leaves?
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:14 am
by tea leaves
In post 2177, Isis wrote:my main thing with tea leaves is I don't believe he townreads me
It's a souuul read. Not much different to the reasons you've been giving for me being scum

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:15 am
by tea leaves
In post 2179, Farren wrote:Apparently I'm not being paranoid enough.

PEdit> Are you saying you were not excited there, tea leaves?
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Uh, I guess I added the exclamation marks because I was trying to convince Ydrasse to join the wagon and she was currently on me? I wasn't in a very "excited state" as you're reading it

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:21 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 702, Bell wrote:If Ydrasse is in your scum reads why aren't you voting there?
In post 707, Bell wrote:Case: To put it as simply as possible. Ydrasse is self-narrating, watching and waiting, pocketing Isis in a way that is confusing because Isis should know he's being pocketed.
And a bunch of other minor things.
In post 708, Bell wrote:Think of it as the replace in perspective. To me Ydrasse looks like obvious scum. (inb4 she flips town). But I think my read is quite serious. I'm fine with ending the day now on that elimination and I can case if I want and I don't think Ydrasse could do much to change my mind on their slot because they made too many posts that ping to me.
Does scum!Bell call his partner obvious scum almost immediately upon replacing in? There was no heat on her at the time for the most part because Guilty was helping me with Dunn

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:23 am
by Morning Tweet
Farren had not even expressed interest in voting Ydrasse yet before Bell made those posts, from what I am seeing. He bounced off of me, to Gamma, to Guilty

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:24 am
by Farren
What does it say about a day where you find yourself doing a search for "!!!" in someone's ISO?

We have:

Ydrasse's flip on you is weird.
The above.
Wishing Ydrasse a happy birthday.

Everything else is quotes, which don't count.

Was trying to figure out if you just use a bunch of !s all over the place and I just didn't notice. Doesn't look like it.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:27 am
by Farren
In post 2183, Morning Tweet wrote:Farren had not even expressed interest in voting Ydrasse yet before Bell made those posts, from what I am seeing. He bounced off of me, to Gamma, to Guilty
This is true. Ydrasse came next, after GuiltyLion.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:34 am
by tea leaves
In post 2184, Farren wrote:What does it say about a day where you find yourself doing a search for "!!!" in someone's ISO?

We have:

Ydrasse's flip on you is weird.
The above.
Wishing Ydrasse a happy birthday.

Everything else is quotes, which don't count.

Was trying to figure out if you just use a bunch of !s all over the place and I just didn't notice. Doesn't look like it.
Wait, what's the case on wishing Ydrasse Happy Birthday?

Ydrasse's flip on me implies I'm town. She voted me with intent to get my wagon through. She was the 3rd vote and it was on me rather than other viable wagons like Gamma.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:37 am
by Isis
In post 2182, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 702, Bell wrote:If Ydrasse is in your scum reads why aren't you voting there?
In post 707, Bell wrote:Case: To put it as simply as possible. Ydrasse is self-narrating, watching and waiting, pocketing Isis in a way that is confusing because Isis should know he's being pocketed.
And a bunch of other minor things.
In post 708, Bell wrote:Think of it as the replace in perspective. To me Ydrasse looks like obvious scum. (inb4 she flips town). But I think my read is quite serious. I'm fine with ending the day now on that elimination and I can case if I want and I don't think Ydrasse could do much to change my mind on their slot because they made too many posts that ping to me.
Does scum!Bell call his partner obvious scum almost immediately upon replacing in? There was no heat on her at the time for the most part because Guilty was helping me with Dunn
That's the wine, yes, but if you decide to taste the wine none of his reasons to scumread her make sense

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:40 am
by tea leaves
Yeah, it might be a TMI scumread on her since he doesn't think his push will actually go through. Iirc, Morning, I and maybe others really liked her as town back then.

I don't want to move my vote off Hobbes when he's made basically no posts today though.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:48 am
by Farren
In post 2186, tea leaves wrote:Wait, what's the case on wishing Ydrasse Happy Birthday?

Ydrasse's flip on me implies I'm town. She voted me with intent to get my wagon through. She was the 3rd vote and it was on me rather than other viable wagons like Gamma.
What do you mean, what's the case?

One possible counter-explanation would have been, you use those !!!s frequently, which would mean I might be reading too much into their use. So I checked to see how frequently you used them. Three times, which I don't think is overly frequent. One of those three was a happy birthday wish, which would also be an example of (completely and totally NAI) excitement. The other use - talking about Ydrasse flipping her (read? vote?) on you - that one's more of an outlier.

Why does GL's absence of posts make you not want to move your vote? Do you think his absence is scummy?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:49 am
by Morning Tweet
Alright, so -- Bell. You were very hard onto Ydrasse D1, until the end where you waffled onto Gamma, saying that your new opinion was Gamma>Ydrasse>tea to be killed

However, on the next day, you proceeded to vote for me, and then GL.

What made you change your mind on Ydrasse to the point where you dropped her off completely until the hammer vote (Where you specifically call attention to how your initial read on Ydrasse was to scumread her)?

i'm sure the answer is probably in your ISO but i dont have the time atm

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:50 am
by tea leaves
I see!!! You're read far too much into it, Farren!!! It's very easy to add exclamation marks which completely changes the tone of a post when in reality you might not be that excited!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:51 am
by tea leaves
Hobbes's absence is very scum-indicative. As town, he's a lot more invested and not uncommonly top 2/3 poster. As scum, he posts far less.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:51 am
by Isis
Even when you "soulread" me town you have reasons that don't make sense you list off

I actually kind of wonder if you'd be too selfaware to not list reasons if you were scum
But like
I have a temptation to not vote you when you're the only one townreading me but then I feel guilty to lean into that if it's undeveloped

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:52 am
by Isis
I remember when ank was in a happy mood one month and all her sentences had one exclamation point and it was nice and chippy
:(

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:54 am
by Farren
Are you trying to make a point by doing that now? Or are you trying to convey that you are agitated?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:55 am
by tea leaves
You don't think my reasons make sense?
As far as I can remember, the ones I've said are:
-Genuine frustration at me "townslipping" when clidd was your biggest scumlead
-The going back and forth on me like there's real thought behind that read
-Unvoting Ydrasse instead of remaining on her when it was clear she would be the elim

Other reasons I guess I could spew:
-The nonstop paranoia with regards to Farren's alignment
-Pushing me earlier today when I'm the only person townreading you

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:56 am
by tea leaves
In post 2195, Farren wrote:Are you trying to make a point by doing that now? Or are you trying to convey that you are agitated?
Make a point lol

I'm not agitated at all

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:57 am
by Isis
In post 2196, tea leaves wrote:Genuine frustration at me "townslipping" when clidd was your biggest scumlead
This was scummy when I perceived your experience level as lower tbh

You should stop secret alting and only play on accounts names gentleman 5 that use this avatar

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:00 pm
by Farren
In post 2192, tea leaves wrote:Hobbes's absence is very scum-indicative. As town, he's a lot more invested and not uncommonly top 2/3 poster. As scum, he posts far less.
He dropped out of Newbie 2024, after being prodded repeatedly. He was Town in that game. That was recent - game wrapped up about a week ago, and he left in D3.

He hasn't posted anywhere on-site since Tuesday. Based on both those facts, I'd say his absence is NAI.