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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:47 am

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In post 2155, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2153, superbowl9 wrote:Oh lord oil is actually bad live
Why? Give me something other than vague commentary for once.
Oh so nowwwwww we want an oil case. I see how it is.

Their posts just read very agendad. It feels so inorganic there's a very strong gut reaction when I read it. You don't get that?
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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:52 am

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In post 2164, Finral wrote:
In post 2152, Guillotina wrote:we townread Noraa for independent reasons or at least I do
what are these reasons?
My reasons is that in my experiences with town!noraa, she is not afraid of being confrontational, tunneling and annoying people and displaying joy while doing it. While wolf!noraa she hates randing wolf and that shows in the thread, she is also more selective in what battles to pick. That wolf noraa is not here.
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 2175, superbowl9 wrote:Their posts just read very agendad. It feels so inorganic there's a very strong gut reaction when I read it. You don't get that?
Can you quote me an example?
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:02 am

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In post 2145, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 2092, Battle Mage wrote:if you are town, you needed to do more than this here.
This is rich, coming from you.

If you don't scumread the everliving fuck out of Finral for that opening post, I don't know what to tell you.

If you didn't scumread Gamma before for being a toneless robot who mindlessly sheeped and didn't react to anything until called out, I don't know what to tell you.

Bell, I love you, but the flavor argument sucks. Vote Finral.

And ftr, it IS a Mr. Satan quote. I don't think Firebringer's dumb enough to roleplay Mr. Satan when he's got a global loud roleblock that spews Mr. Satan quotes, though.
In post 2147, Oil Tycoons wrote:We'll agree to disagree. Where's your head at outside of FB?
In post 2149, Oil Tycoons wrote:Well, I'm here if you want to leave the firm foundation of fact and journey together through the murky marshes of memory into thickets of wildest guesswork.
Here's the page I got that from. They use a lot of linguistic crutches which I believe is giving me this interpretation - the anaphoria in the first post, exaggeration/inflating language all over, the unnecessarily lengthy description in the last post. It just feels like someone not comfortable with their content adding support to it to make it come off better.
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:04 am

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We've come full circle now to me being the one to actually case them :lol:
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:16 am

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In post 2166, Finral wrote:Kind of okay with Bell right now.

Still think I'm on the money with Oil, Flea, Guillo. I could be wrong on one of Flea/Guillo, I don't think I'm wrong in both. Flea is skirting around the situation and was fence sitting Oil, and all their posts have been indirectly helping Oil, like the "reads of Finral shift as they have no progression" which is actually factually incorrect because I had my POE 6 earlier, and they haven't really changed. I start to move pieces around in the team, sure, but it almost seems like "he nailed all of us but he's just blowing smoke!"

Guillo is trying hard to discredit my reads rather than try to show me they are town.

Oil speaks for itself with the way they're coming after me. They're the 3 trying to take me down right now. Everyone else is completely just like "what's happening, waaaaah? meh finral could be right. Might as well." and that's townie to me because they really don't know.

The list of players I think are included in that are Firebringer, Battle Mage, Superbowl, and now Bell. I believe all 4 of them to be town for those reasons.

Dunnstral I've explained why I think is town, I actually liked how they were in Day 1 when Mastina was calling them scummy. Mastina had a list of players she thought was scum, Oil, Dunnstral, and someone else, I'll go check in a minute, but I don't believe Mastina wasn't right somewhere. If all her reads were wrong, it wouldn't matter to kill her still because she could just be killed later after she would misfade.


Guillo is pushing a bunch of "hey, go do this for me!" questions, and they're all defending Guillo indirectly. They stuck on my push of Kookie, which I was happy to call Kookie town after a while, I saw they were a consensus town read, and that's why I got pinged there initially, amongst not reading their posts as AI, just personality. After diving into it more, Kookie was townie to me. I read more.


Flea saying my reads have no progression doesn't make sense, because I feel I was pretty clear about going from scumreading Kookie to town reading them, and I like the reasoning of everyone town reading, the people who were actively town reading not passively have scum in them because yes, scum are obviously going to town read Nornor.

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This seems like you're mad that I replaced into a slot you had setup to be a miselim, and ruined your plans because I'm town reading the players you are trying to keep in the miselim.


Also, I believe I'm only doing this with Superbowl, so I don't understand the exaggeration. Superbowl is in my POE as well, so this is a major overreaction, either alignment. I don't know if it's on purpose, it seems somewhat genuine, but it could be genuine no matter what.

You paint me as discrediting when im just questioning you. You are the one trying to paint me as wolf discrediting my engagement with you. Sort of like if this guy does not agree with my reads, then he must be a wolf.

You keep bringing up kookies into this and accusing me of getting stack on them and your reads about them, but you keep bringing them up and you are trying to build a case around me for this, when you are the initiator and you keep it as your focus to scum read me. I think you came into the thread throwing noodles at the wall and see what sticks but in a very malicious manner, i think you wanted to push kookies but when you saw resistance you backed off and accepted they were town because you know they were town?
I think all these accusations to players in my top list is you trying to sabotage our reads we got from people, stir up chaos! A scum strategy i have used in other games with high success.

Then you say I'm mad because you replaced in as if i got a vendetta or an agenda against your slot. You are grasping at straws here, i scum read you, im not mad! Im excited! Because your behavior matches up with one from a wolf. Bell had said the other day (correct me if im wrong) that Gamma was having a difficult time in life (paraphrasing), so it made me consider that i might be wrong about your slot.

But seeing how you came in trying to stir chaos, accusing me of things you can't possibly know as getting mad for your replacement, trying to call me a wolf for focusing on certain posts of yours while i don't others. Scum reading my town reads and town reading my scum reads, it gives me the feeling i was right all along!

Keep them coming. Off to work
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:26 am

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I don't believe I've caused any chaos. Just was giving my reads and thought process.
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:27 am

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If anything I gave the game more order.
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 2180, Guillotina wrote:Then you say I'm mad because you replaced in as if i got a vendetta or an agenda against your slot.
I'm not saying you're like going "DAMN CURSE EVERYTHING LIFE IS OVER SCREW FINRAL" mad, it's more of a "well, that sucks"
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:28 am

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Can you talk to me about Oil, Guillo?
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 2184, Finral wrote:Can you talk to me about Oil, Guillo?
Oil's been the main slot I've been talking about, and you really haven't brought them up at all, and instead focusing on the slot I've already started to town read anyways.
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:01 am

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Survived to the end and won - 11
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
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winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:09 am

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In post 2175, superbowl9 wrote:Their posts just read very agendad. It feels so inorganic there's a very strong gut reaction when I read it. You don't get that?
I don't get it, it feels typical nacho.

I'm also keen on seeing things from mastinas pov, and put the nacho-dra as town here.
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:12 am

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The fae I beleive to be town.

I'm not fond of the pushes finral is making at all

VOTE: finral
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 2114, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2111, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 2072, Finral wrote:Also, Guillo essentially outed themselves as scum calling me blind based solely on the Kookie read, because they didn't talk about Oil at all which means they're likely trying to discredit me to weaken my push on Oil but not bring up Oil.

Classic hatchet.
I... I scum read guillo but like, this reeks of misrepping a statement.
Aren't you my white knight in shiny armor?

How about some scum hunting?
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:53 am

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In post 2185, Finral wrote:
In post 2184, Finral wrote:Can you talk to me about Oil, Guillo?
Oil's been the main slot I've been talking about, and you really haven't brought them up at all, and instead focusing on the slot I've already started to town read anyways.
I ignore my town reads not in the way that if they interact with me i ignore them no, but if they give townie vibes i leave them alone.
I'm feeling good about Oil. The way i go about things is that i push the red flags, they haven't raised one for me yet. It helps him that my scum reads are trying to push him too.
If they are scum, i don't think it's me who is gonna figure it out anyway.
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:57 am

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In post 2183, Finral wrote:
In post 2180, Guillotina wrote:Then you say I'm mad because you replaced in as if i got a vendetta or an agenda against your slot.
I'm not saying you're like going "DAMN CURSE EVERYTHING LIFE IS OVER SCREW FINRAL" mad, it's more of a "well, that sucks"
Nah, it sucks for you cause i think you subbed in to a wolf slot that was already getting scum read.
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:01 am

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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:38 am

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Hmm, I'm wrong somewhere.
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:39 am

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Don't think it's Oil, so I'll go there. Possibility for Sugar chainsaw, and Guillo just town with way off reads, I guess.
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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:40 am

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Maybe GuilloTown correctly called out Sugar white knighting them.
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 2193, Finral wrote:Hmm, I'm wrong somewhere.
In post 2194, Finral wrote:Don't think it's Oil, so I'll go there. Possibility for Sugar chainsaw, and Guillo just town with way off reads, I guess.
Elaborate more for me please :)
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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 am

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also that metronome gif is off with my music -.-; that's vexing it lol
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:17 am

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you voting Oil is a weird partner move because it's momentum swinging.
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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:22 am

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wow wish I could shake all my scumreads that easily o.o

You realise this is just for arena nomination, right? not elimination.
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