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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:18 am
by Iverson
NM I'm sure you've considered it but an alt where you actually tryhard, bust out the walls, and style on nerds for a year before outing would be absolutely hilarious even though I know you like the jester role

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:32 am
by SirCakez
In post 2169, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok why
because he is actively trying to not get limmed which I don't think he would do as town

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:33 am
by SirCakez
Town: Kismet, Infinity, VFT
Townlean: Iverson
Null: DC, Bulge
Scumlean: notscience
Scum: NM, Mom

I think I'm here
I have too many townreads :////

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:34 am
by SirCakez
mmmm it looks like Bulge probably has to be scum from my current POE if I'm not wrong on my TRs

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:41 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2178, SirCakez wrote:mmmm it looks like Bulge probably has to be scum from my current POE if I'm not wrong on my TRs
Technically no but these are the lines I'm trying to get you to think along if town

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:43 am
by Iverson
Can you walk me through the Momrangal scumread? I really liked the analysis/quotes from Kismet.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:54 am
by SirCakez
In post 2179, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2178, SirCakez wrote:mmmm it looks like Bulge probably has to be scum from my current POE if I'm not wrong on my TRs
Technically no but these are the lines I'm trying to get you to think along if town
I mean
I guess I'd elim Bulge but I just feel much better about NM

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:55 am
by The Bulge
In post 2125, Kismet wrote:
In post 2122, The Bulge wrote:but idk i feel like im coming off very aloof and detached from the game as a whole, and I just don't see how my behaviour could come from a scum slot.
don't really feel like this has to be AI
if it is then it's indicative you're an alignment you don't like playing as vs the other

but i mean there's more to it then that
if the gamestate is in a place where it behooves you to do nothing, that can be a very viable scum strat. not saying it makes you scum, but i just don't see where you're coming from when you say it makes you town
I mean if I had to rank, then D1 town is easily my least favourite alignment. but that's not really what I'm talking about. I don't think I would say "fuck this game" and then disappear if I had partners in the wings. I don't think I would be posting right now without first reading all the pages I've missed as scum (or at least posting in the scum pt for some direction). I would never give peta such an easy setup for that hammer as scum. hell I don't think I would ever write that wall as scum, especially with notty pressuring me like that.

wrt lurking as a viable scumstrat, totally agree. completely disengaging for over a week and falling half a game behind, however, is not.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:57 am
by SirCakez
In post 2180, Iverson wrote:Can you walk me through the Momrangal scumread? I really liked the analysis/quotes from Kismet.
I think she has been better today but I thought her entrance yesterday was outrageously bad and unquestionably scummy. She showed no interest in solving or engaging anyone until some pressure built upon her. I think her response to my initial attacks on her was way too defensive. I also think she made posts that fit with scum!Peta (and Peta made posts fitting with scum!Mom). She doesn't even mention Peta in her entire ISO from yesterday.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:00 am
by Iverson
Bulge, I'm not familiar with you or your meta, but I can assure you "I'd be doing more as scum, therefore I am town" is not an avenue worth spending two irl days arguing. It is a side comment that you tack on hoping someone agrees with it.

I would reset and be very intentional about picking one or two slots that are good candidates for a deep dive and go from there.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:02 am
by Iverson
These do not have to be scummy slots, but can be town ones to serve as anchors.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:03 am
by The Bulge
In post 2128, notscience wrote:
In post 2102, Kismet wrote:noddy do you have any history of bulge acting like this before? because this is just not jibing w/ me on any experience i've ever had w/ him (which admittedly isn't that much)
no

This is new territory for me too lmao

My first instinct was him writing me off so easy was weird normally he plays it super close to the vest and thats something both of us have done as scum (accidentally let on too strong a townread on the other)

And in general his levels of engagement are on how much a puzzle there is to solve/he likes being in the murky PoE area anyways to get reads. Him being in the ideal area to get reads and not trying to really engage is concerning. Like in Illicit he was outside of his comfort zone and the game was harder.

But like I know he got lost in tenet

BUT IF HES HERE RN

why does this gamestate say you are town

explain im five pls ty
remember when I had a whole joke paragraph in place of a read for your slot? and not a single person in the game picked that up?



gamestate says I'm town because the gamestate for a long time said scum doesn't know what the fuck to do with my slot. because when half the town is scum and on of the townies drops off the face off the earth, scummos are concerned about keeping up the facade and maintaining a monopoly on discussion, and have no room to be off looking for lost sheep.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:07 am
by The Bulge
In post 2136, notscience wrote:But yeah like

id expect him to sink his teeth into SOMETHING by now

Maybe hes banking on me succumbing to pressure wrt him again but like... meh

I was looking at nacho's wall and he had some interesting points WRT mena

ninja-
yeah, so like this is like after he got cleared, which is weird, because he is in no way cleared here and should be able to sink his teeth in more

BULGE IM TALKIN SHIT AND STAYING UP TO EAT LO MEIN WHERE ARE YOU
my taking a step back here was only game-related to the extent of the anxiety it was causing me. nothing to do with gamestate, only with my mental state.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:09 am
by The Bulge
In post 2156, Kismet wrote:
In post 2155, notscience wrote:so if you wanna drunk post with me lemme know good night all
wed is a good day to drink for me
haha let's do this!

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:11 am
by The Bulge
In post 2164, Infinity 324 wrote:I honestly don't get why people are so confident NM is scum here and not bulge, has bulge done anything towny? It's making me more confident in my bulge vote if anything
trying to make it out like I'm the counterwagon to NM lmao?
In post 2171, Infinity 324 wrote:Can you give a current readslist too? It's hard for me to believe that bulge isn't in your PoE with so many towny people in the game
gross

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:13 am
by The Bulge
theres another thought. Infinity scum was my only against-the-grain read. why do I case that as scum? where was my backup? or followup? what's the agenda there? or anywhere in my play really

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:13 am
by The Bulge
In post 2189, The Bulge wrote:trying to make it out like I'm the counterwagon to NM lmao?
*like NM is the counterwagon to me

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:16 am
by The Bulge
town needs to give me a chance to actually catch up and ground myself, though. there is no deadline rush. only scum wants to powerlim me before I have a chance to do anything useful. especially if the reads in my wall were right!

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:24 am
by Iverson
At the risk of getting in the way of others, you are not getting speedlimmed and have time to work through things.

The danger is that you get in your own way by feeling that you need to shake off the wagon right now over being more calm and intentional with your time/effort.

Perhaps I'm only speaking for myself but I do not like the current panic and focus on defending yourself over being a bit more stoic.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:27 am
by Iverson
The order you're going right now is:

Shake wagon -> Catch up and ground myself -> ??? -> Push scum/Profit

The order you should be going in, at least in my opinion, and given that you will not be speedlimmed, is:

Catch up and ground yourself -> Shake wagon w/ better conception of game in mind -> ??? -> Push scum/Profit.

This actually works regardless of alignment.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:29 am
by The Bulge
im doing posts about things I read right before posting -> reading -> posts about shit I hadnt read, thanks

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:32 am
by Iverson
Suit yourself, I'll stop with the unsolicited advice.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:40 am
by Iverson
This is a bit authoritarian of me but to incentivize a slowdown and show my displeasure with the current focus:

VOTE: The Bulge

This is E-2, AKA effective E-1

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:11 am
by fferyllt
bacon

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:11 am
by fferyllt
chocolate