{DeathNote, SaveTheDragons, Nero Cain, Samantha}. I really do think there’s multiple Scum in that group. One of T3/Kitty is always Scum this much is true. Marky Mark has pinged me a lot but I don’t know I don’t think I can figure out the entire Team.
Etine, Rathe, and DGB actually struck me as Town, particularly the first two. WindowsXP is probably Town? Not sure there. NDMath and Kerset have given me positive vibes. I need to read Cabd more carefully, but based on the claim and the early play, I do think they’re Town. I’ll silently keep reading and if you want to figure out where I’m coming from ask directly.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:22 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 706, WindowsXP wrote:vasex u got prior mafia experience? i can like really feel it - like i legit would like nom u for rising star for just your play this far regardless of your alignment you're playing dominantly and very cool
What. The. Fuck.
Okay. Replace Samantha with XP in my group.
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:27 pm
by Vasex
In post 268, Andresvmb wrote:{Cabd, WindowsXP, NDMath} seem like Town to me so far.
In post 2175, Andresvmb wrote:I need to read Cabd more carefully, but based on the claim and the early play, I do think they’re Town.
well well well
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:31 pm
by Vasex
omg, i read it wrong, sorry)
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:45 pm
by Vasex
monkey! people say you are a scum. what do you think about it? why did you agree to replace deathnote? what do you want from this game? when are you going to start playing? though i admit that you share your thoughts about who can be townies (dgb and cabd)
these are 2 players who dont get nightkilled unless they are confirmed PR.
these are the 2 best checks to leash.
change this to T3 -> Etine, Kitty->DGB
i want scum to nightkill Etine if they are town<3
OK I missed this on my first read. Checking DGB.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:05 am
by KittyTacky
In post 1872, Enchant wrote:Like... Really you will say "i was VT i don't care" as mafia?
Or that's what mafia wants you to think.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:10 am
by KittyTacky
In post 1951, Vasex wrote:and kitty confirmed that you are together)
No I didn't. I didn't even see what the scumread was and I wanted something as a reason to vote Enchant who looked slippery to me.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:20 am
by KittyTacky
I honestly wasn't sure that there *couldn't* be two gated cops, especially if there are few PRs. T3 is scum at this point regardless, what was the last time I said he is town? It's just that Cabd is worse. But looks like we're not hanging Cabd today anyways because we believe his VT claim.
VOTE: T3
FOS: Cabd
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:22 am
by KittyTacky
In post 2185, KittyTacky wrote:I honestly wasn't sure that there *couldn't* be two gated cops, especially if there are few PRs.
This is why I didn't CC.
Let me check DGB tonight, when I flip town D2 listen to my result.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:23 am
by KittyTacky
I misplayed as town cop, who doesn't their first time?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:44 am
by Kerset
Its cool how windows just override my call instead of consulting it with me. Good way to make me annoyed.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:46 am
by Kerset
In post 2175, Andresvmb wrote:{DeathNote, SaveTheDragons, Nero Cain, Samantha}. I really do think there’s multiple Scum in that group. One of T3/Kitty is always Scum this much is true. Marky Mark has pinged me a lot but I don’t know I don’t think I can figure out the entire Team.
Etine, Rathe, and DGB actually struck me as Town, particularly the first two. WindowsXP is probably Town? Not sure there. NDMath and Kerset have given me positive vibes. I need to read Cabd more carefully, but based on the claim and the early play, I do think they’re Town. I’ll silently keep reading and if you want to figure out where I’m coming from ask directly.
For some reason your reads are unaffected by people activity. Are you honest?
In post 1430, NDMath wrote:I was fine (not agree with but understand) with your logic but the last sentence feels like a huge jump to me. You're going from "T3 might be scum trying to get Kitty elim'd today" to "T3 and Kitty seem S/S or maybe Vasex"
I'm thinking through the associatives. T3 scummy and Vasex defends him while also pushing kitty and creating Arte/Ana counterwagon when the T3 wagon was getting hot. Vasex also goes on about being ok with giving up both kitty/T3 as double elim while knowing this isn't actually gonna be a thing.
Tbh, I had more equity in the Kitty/T3 theory when T3 had only claimed BP, the subsequent change of claim to gated cop made this less likely
In post 1430, NDMath wrote:Why would a scum {copy-paste the rest}?
A townie could be over-excited at knowing a very likely scum from their pov, scum wouldn't have this motivation.
See my response to this issue above, its not a great play as ever alignment, but makes very little sense given that the consensus had already swung hard to eliming kitty d2
Gist of it is
-you are confident in T3 being scum (and me vice versa)
-such that you are basing numerous other reads on him being scum
-meaning we won't be on the same page this game until T3 flips
In post 1654, NDMath wrote:Anastasia and Vasex appear to have very similar reads outside of each other and kitty.
Samantha town told in my eyes;
Spoiler:
In post 1544, samantha97 wrote:I'm gonna echo the sentiment not just for your dkkoba reasoning but for mine too
the main reason I think ndmath and anastasia are town is because of their critical view of me
there's 0 reason to think I'm town this game lol
even the posts I made that weren't mechanical were borderline mechanical, and the few that were neither were basically nothing
idc though appeal to rathe and I'll change my vote; I haven't even read any of your past posts
"You shouldn't be townreading me." is something I've seen from town numerous times but not from scum; Just is not something scum think since one of there main goals is to get townread.
My reads feel static right now.
VOTE: cabd
L-2
The whole "pocket attempt denied"/"why aren't you SRing me" is pretty NAI. This feels like a convenient way to explain vote pivot away from Samantha to Cabd
My vote was on Enchant at that time and "Pocket attempt denied" is a windows quote.
I also noticed Cabd wagon was filled with townreads/townleans for me apart from Etine & dcl, which was a heavy factor.
Spoiler:
In post 1738, Etine wrote:There's too many people I dislike on the Cabd wagon..
In post 1727, The Bulge wrote:Cabd [9] - deep-city-lights, Nero Cain, Rathe, Save The Dragons, samantha97, Anastasia, Etine, Vasex, NDMath
Rathe, NDMath, sam?, Nero Cain. Not all scum probably!
I made a kneejerk unvote and decision but yeesh I looked at Cabd's reads and I was just in so much disagreement I couldn't possibly think he made them as town.
The early part of the Etine/Windows interaction (starting at first quoted post ending at the latter) is so odd on Etine's end. Am repeating Windows but etine struggles to explain his reason and Etine's frustration at Windows here seems unfounded.
when T3 and Kitty acknowledge their targets + CabD has a chance to speak.
I am fine with checking Etine, Enchant, T3, or ND.
Why is checking T3 even in consideration for you?
On Andres, I don't like him wanting to elim a cop today, and I don't like his proposed pool for the cops to check in. The other major thing he did was get frustrated at vasex. VOTE: Andres
This is what the game looks like to me:
Vasex samantha Kerset
Windows T3 Rathe
Nero Mark Dragons Anya
Anastasia Dunnstral
KITTY IS SO SCUM
DGB WAS STRONG TOWN FOR HIM (he repeated that after his townie dragons), NOW HE AGREES WITH XP TO CHECK DGB
OMG LETS ELIM KITTY TODAY
everybody who thinks kitty is a real cop - scums
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:44 am
by Marky Mark
Well that rather popped off last night didn't it?
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:44 am
by Kerset
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:45 am
by Marky Mark
I think Anya hit the nail on the head ref the fact that cabd isn't that scummy a slot, but equally the reaction to fake hammer is easy enough to pull and is NAI