Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Snarky Fishes]

@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?

I don't fucking know.

I understand why most people defaulted to scum wouldn't claim friendly neighbor, that was my first thought too. But I don't understand why no one else seemed interested in the discrepancies you showed.

I am also not sure how your gambit was supposed to catch scum, but I also know that not understanding you is just a Titus thing.

I felt like pooky's vote on you was weird in 1962, with a stark change in tone and like the way that he was approaching the game.

So, all in all, the last couple pages are confusing

I went through some apparent discrepancies with her a couple pages back?

[Spiffeh]

Hey Lukewarm are you still scum reading me and if so can you knock it off?

[unwnd]

Hey Lukewarm are you still scum reading me and if so can you knock it off?

Why does being scumread concern you

Shouldn't the proof be on others?

[Spiffeh]

Have you met me?

Also I don't understand your question

[Lukewarm]

@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?

I don't fucking know.

I understand why most people defaulted to scum wouldn't claim friendly neighbor, that was my first thought too. But I don't understand why no one else seemed interested in the discrepancies you showed.

I am also not sure how your gambit was supposed to catch scum, but I also know that not understanding you is just a Titus thing.

I felt like pooky's vote on you was weird in 1962, with a stark change in tone and like the way that he was approaching the game.

So, all in all, the last couple pages are confusing

I went through some apparent discrepancies with her a couple pages back?

Yeah, I saw you ask her about how many shards she needed. But I feel like no one went back and honed in on 2013. Which, in my mind is wildly inconsistent with her presented game knowledge.

It was like, wait Titus, which did you mean? Oh, okay. Moving on.

[unwnd]

Have you met me?

Also I don't understand your question

I've never met your towngame

[Spiffeh]

Well now you have

[unwnd]

I mean I've read some of your posts thinking you are increasingly entitled to your green role PM yeah

[Lukewarm]

And even now, you are commenting that you noticed it at first as well, but you are not here weighing in on whether her answer to my questions makes any sense to you

Spoiler:

If you are not here currently for the song and dance 20 questions version, I will spell it out for when ever you come back.

Did you figure it out before or after you wrote 2013?

If you figured it out AFTER you wrote 2013, can you explain this part of your plan to me in a way that makes sense if you think everyone needs 1 shard?

If we shard me

and then I get enough shards to turn demonic

, I am removed from the elimination pool.

However,

by not sharding me after I get sharded today

, they are suggesting they want me in the elimination pool which indirectly suggests I am town.

The only move for them is to argue that I am not an FN to try and eliminate me before I get enough shards to become a demon. It forces them to tunnel me.

If they do decide to demon me

and then roleblock me, then that's resources that aren't spent on our investigates which means they get shots off. Plus, they'd risk being tracked and or watched as I'd be an ideal target for such investigations if they occurred.

If you figured it out BEFORE 2013, why did you fake figuring it out later?

How many shards do you need to get the FN/become demonic again?

The default number. I have none now. I need to check the ruleset.

How many shards do you need to get the FN/become demonic again?

The default number. I have none now. I need to check the ruleset.

The sample mafia role PM has two shards to be demonic. Supposing town need the same amount of shards, two. Verifying with the mod.

Wanted to put this on the current page for Titus

@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.

This is a very, very unsatisfactory answer. And 2013 still makes no sense to me if you thought that you only needed 1 shard.......

I also feel like this is a strange tone you are taking when having the conversation with me, when you most recent posts have me as scum. Like you have kind of been championing it.

I am trying to figure you out. Do you think that this is scum!luke latching on to something?

I don't know. I feel like I expected either a very well put together response, OR omgus. and I got neither. Am confused

[Here There Be Dragons]

I'm very interested in Ceph and Cabd's takes specifically on Pooky at this moment as fellow Tenet scumteam alumni.

i wish i knew how to read his disinterest in playing the game. this doesn't particularly not remind me of tenet, but having skimmed a couple of his other games that std was in, i can't tell the difference

[Lukewarm]

From my pov, 2135 felt like it was a big find. A bright new shiny thing to analyze.

And since then Pooky, Unwnd, notty, both heads of the fishes, penguin alien, spiffeh, and LLD have all commented, and no one thought it was even of note.

Even Titus's response was laissez-faire

[Spiffeh]

Hey

Lukewarm

STD are you still scum reading me and if so can you knock it off?

[Lukewarm]

Hey Lukewarm are you still scum reading me and if so can you knock it off?

I am not town reading you, but you are not currently a fish I am interested in frying today. Which is an improvement from when I voted you

[unwnd]

From my pov, 2135 felt like it was a big find. A bright new shiny thing to analyze.

And since then Pooky, Unwnd, notty, both heads of the fishes, penguin alien, spiffeh, and LLD have all commented, and no one thought it was even of note.

Even Titus's response was laissez-faire

I glossed over it

Titus is in my lower bottom half, but I think her role is basically play up negative utility regardless of alignment

[unwnd]

Spiffeh I have liked some of your posts but the obsession of not being townread feels like sour grapes

Where does it come from?

[Here There Be Dragons]

From my pov, 2135 felt like it was a big find. A bright new shiny thing to analyze.

And since then Pooky, Unwnd, notty, both heads of the fishes, penguin alien, spiffeh, and LLD have all commented, and no one thought it was even of note.

Even Titus's response was laissez-faire

it makes more sense now as i reread it paying specific attention to it

hm

[Snarky Fishes]

From my pov, 2135 felt like it was a big find. A bright new shiny thing to analyze.

And since then Pooky, Unwnd, notty, both heads of the fishes, penguin alien, spiffeh, and LLD have all commented, and no one thought it was even of note.

Even Titus's response was laissez-faire

heh.

I commented on it to bell, but it was more about you covering this ground than it was about titus's...logic.

My main concern going through that posts and the other posts I focused on had to do with picking up the impression she had started with one shard and trying to nail that down and figure out if/how it played into her implied math.

It's lazy to shrug and mutter "moon logic", but I feel like that's where this probably sputters out, regardless of her alignment.

[Spiffeh]

Uh idk I think it's because I'm a self-involved egocentric player. Like a "How DARE people scum read me after all I've done" kinda thing.

I do it as either alignment too

[Lukewarm]

@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.

Anyone else have any thoughts on Titus's tone in responding to me. Because imo, it looks like she forget that I am one of scum reads that she has been pushing for a long time.

Spoiler:

End page 37, Luke is still scum.

Lukewarm and Spiffeh unlikely partners.

Still prefer Lukewarm.

If I had to guess a team Luke, STD, AA9 would be the team.

We should eliminate Lukewarm.

I think Lukewarm is scum, which makes me a little reluctant to actually vote Spiffeh due to me not thinking they are teamed from what little I have comprehended.

I think it's Pooky, Lukewarm and you atm. You and Lukewarm are weaker because my reads on you two are tonal and unflipped wagon analysis.

[Lukewarm]

@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.

Anyone else have any thoughts on Titus's tone in responding to me. Because imo, it looks like she forget that I am one of scum reads that she has been pushing for a long time.

Spoiler:

End page 37, Luke is still scum.

Lukewarm and Spiffeh unlikely partners.

Still prefer Lukewarm.

If I had to guess a team Luke, STD, AA9 would be the team.

We should eliminate Lukewarm.

I think Lukewarm is scum, which makes me a little reluctant to actually vote Spiffeh due to me not thinking they are teamed from what little I have comprehended.

I think it's Pooky, Lukewarm and you atm. You and Lukewarm are weaker because my reads on you two are tonal and unflipped wagon analysis.

There is no hint of the immediate doubt in my genuineness I would expect from someone seeing one of their biggest scum reads coming at them with a potentially incriminating line of questioning

[unwnd]

Uh idk I think it's because I'm a self-involved egocentric player. Like a "How DARE people scum read me after all I've done" kinda thing.

I do it as either alignment too

Yes but

What are you hoping to achieve? Again, I like some of your posts. You're one of the people to notice certain discrepancies that I haven't penned myself. This makes me biased towards my read on you, but I'm wondering what's the point? I was thinking back on why you felt the need to reread the game..on D1. Are you really that unsettled by events you think you need a hard reset?

[Lukewarm]

It's lazy to shrug and mutter "moon logic", but I feel like that's where this probably sputters out, regardless of her alignment.

I don't agree with this.

My understanding is that moon logic is supposed to indicate logical leaps that most people don't really follow, that that make 100% sense to titus.

I don't think that it is supposed to just blanket excuse discrepancies in her presented game knowledge...

[Spiffeh]

Normally I just do it because I think it's funny which sounds kinda pathetic as I type this out. Like asking Luke if he's still scum reading me, and quoting the same post striking out Luke's name and putting in STD instead, it amused me. I don't know if you're going to find the answer you're looking for.

The reason I'm rereading is because I don't have too many reads I feel strongly about. A lot of players I have mixed feelings on that could go either way, and I have no frontrunner for a lim target. Compare that with WH13 where I had a much stronger grasp on the game that I could wallpost and provide multiple reads lists and solid reasoning for scum reads at this point. If I'm being honest, idk how fruitful the reread will be because I found only two things worth pointing out in the latest set of 10 pages and don't know if it's worth the time.

[Medea the Alien]

Unwnd posts from the past 48 hours harping on "the thing going on"

I'm gonna just reply to this from my POV then drop it and move on with my life. Your entire thread of the day here seems to be the implication that "the cabal" is unwilling to scum read or eliminate "our friends" and I want to nip that shit in the bud right the fuck now.

1. Annie Edison (notscience/The Bulge) - In addition to talking a bunch in games, we have a signifigant rapport out of game and often trade life advice and psychups.

2. ArcAngel9 - Penguin feels like it's the day they parted, the familiarity and such is there.

3. Dunnstral - Cool dude who we chat with occasionally.

4. Here There Be Dragons (cephrir/Save the Dragons) - Uh yeah hi we met them IRL (something something air conditioning) and I've got a hydra with Ceph.

5. Lady Lambdadelta - We converse nearly daily.

6. Lukewarm - Recent addition to our gorup but by no means unwelcome, we've talked both about games and about other stuff.

7. ManateeGal - Recent addition to my contacts but have TOTALLY talked outside of the game about life and stuff a few times.

8. Medea the Alien (cabd/penguin_alien) - I married one of these heads.

9. PookyTheMagicalBear - We shoot the shit form time to time, and also he watches my memestock portfolio and smugly chuckles often

10. unwnd - You act like a right aloof jerkface sometimes but don't go telling me we haven't conversed. Also we hydra'd that one time and enjoyed it.

11. Snarky fishes (Bell/fferyllt) - I feel like I REALLY don't have a need to explain this one. Both heads, although obviously one is more equal than the other.

12. Spiffeh - I TELL THE MOUSE HOW TO EAT THE FISHIES

13. Titus - I have literally stayed at Titus's house before. And gotten pulled over by the cops together. It was a trip!

Literally every slot in this game is somebody I'd consider at least a mafia friend. I'm town reading some of them, sure, but guess what. RNJESUS doesn't give a flying fuck about friendships, and the odds of three or four of the same players constantly being town together in a string of games isn't that unlikely. NO matter who we end up eliminating today, it'll be a friend.

Right now, to be perfectly clear, our number one town read is the person on this list we've conversed with the least in the past year. That is to say, ArcAngel.

[Medea the Alien]

Ffery, two options forward. Separation and keeping me in stasis, or four person hydra thread-PT. Your call. My hand is extended. I'm gonna be digging in regardless.