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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:28 am
by Taly
Hmmmm. I'm going to think on this.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:28 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2172, Ydrasse wrote:that's a very wifom-y approach to take to this and i'm unsure why you're going to that
i think it's more wifom-y to try to read into what the event is based on theoretical scum actions that based on what makes sense mechanically
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:30 am
by Infinity 324
modwifom is best wifom
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:30 am
by Ydrasse
In post 2174, Infinity 324 wrote:
i just don't think it's likely that the duel is good, especially since we know one of the duelists dues. if scum has to use their second sabotage then great. i don't think it's would be good game design to have the event be "haha you were supposed to be voting town into this but you had no real way of knowing"
i mean we've seen that design recently in silent star i.e. "you were supposed to be voting town all along" so it definitely happens
idk, i think maybe the assumption of this is good/bad is... it makes voting and doing things so trivial and irrelevant to me because it feels like flipping a coin of "oh this is good so i vote here" without knowing which means everything we do not matter and unreadable because it's weighed down by this context, so i feel strange seeing you apply it because like.
if it kills me, when i flip, you have set up a defense for yourself like "oh, i thought this because setup!"
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:31 am
by Ydrasse
i guess what i am saying basically is i do not like having to second guess and think "what if THIS happens" every event ._. i wish we could just treat it like "always just treat like scummy person has to go in" or something but i know that won't happen because we don't know evens ahead of time
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:31 am
by ulyana
hm, but one of the duelists dies, so we should just be aiming for s/s
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:33 am
by petapan
In post 2155, Taly wrote:If you really have such a strong conviction that Galron is scum, I want to hear, and I'd be doubly confused on why you vote Ydrasse here.
i laid out my manifesto in
1941 with "kill the people who aren't being towny"
i think overthinking and trying to kill someone else based on some complicated theory about them being scum because you think their tone is sinister is an epic mistake and i have seen games where town big brain themselves out of voting do nothing scum because they want something ~fancy~, they want a ~case~, the narrative of "this person does not care about solving the game and is of the mafia alignment" is too
boring
so they big brain themselves into a complicated theory and kill a townie who is actually trying to figure things out instead
i do not want that to happen here
i also think the way galron and toogeloo played event one is +scum now that we know what the chair actually did
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:33 am
by Ydrasse
and then people will go "sabotage" and then be like, hm, perhaps i shall not
it is too much of a headache for me
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:34 am
by petapan
and i know i mildly defended dunn last night but after his last popin my stance on him is "idc"
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:37 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2179, Ydrasse wrote:i guess what i am saying basically is i do not like having to second guess and think "what if THIS happens" every event ._. i wish we could just treat it like "always just treat like scummy person has to go in" or something but i know that won't happen because we don't know evens ahead of time
here's my perspective
yes it's possible that we're supposed to be voting town but
the most likely outcome is that we're supposed to be voting scum, and the setup is at least designed so that we're supposed to think that we should be voting scum, so i think we should try to vote scum and if a weird twist happens then so be it
i don't think that we should let scum actions influence our thoughts about the setup
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:38 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2181, petapan wrote:i also think the way galron and toogeloo played event one is +scum now that we know what the chair actually did
hmm why
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:38 am
by petapan
because galron flatly didn't care about getting voted and toog played like a jester
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:40 am
by Infinity 324
In post 2186, petapan wrote:
because galron flatly didn't care about getting voted and toog played like a jester
sure, but what's their plan to not get executed after that? or was their plan to just use the chair as a nk and then get executed
seems like not a great plan
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:47 am
by petapan
In post 2187, Infinity 324 wrote: In post 2186, petapan wrote:
because galron flatly didn't care about getting voted and toog played like a jester
sure, but what's their plan to not get executed after that? or was their plan to just use the chair as a nk and then get executed
seems like not a great plan
half the people on this site don't want to play scum
i don't rule anything out on the basis of it being a bad plan
i think either "i don't feel like efforting let me get voted and then we make two kills" or letting yourself get the chair and then "towning it up" when you have the thread to yourself both make sense as scum strategies
and that ultimately having control of a guaranteed kill is really not a bad plan at all, getting voted into the chair was probably a good outcome for scum
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:13 am
by Toogeloo
VOTE: petapan
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2124, Galron wrote: In post 1143, Gamma Emerald wrote:Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Galron, Sircakez, Pooky
Could do with a touching-up: Saber, Toogeloo, Dwlee
Remove them from the premises: Cephrir, Dunnstral, Ulyana, Petapan
Since I’m not long for this world I may as well leave this as a parting gift.
I don't understand how I became someone good to keep around to an off with their head.
My rereading of things made it feel like you were pocketing me, with stuff like your comment about “bro you can’t quit!” kinda being one of the worst, the tone of that remark seems flat af and it reads as you wanting me around for your own ends. Further developments didn’t help what with you trying to call a heartfelt tribute to Pooky premature, it feels like you’ve passed the point of pretending to honestly engage and are starting to just go into nonsense mode. There’s probably some aspect of personal distaste I will admit.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:12 am
by Gamma Emerald
Galron was my first choice, it was sabotaged.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:19 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2178, Ydrasse wrote:i mean we've seen that design recently in silent star i.e. "you were supposed to be voting town all along" so it definitely happens
I remember seeing something about mod being inspired by Silent Star for the design of Radio Buzz so this does feel in line with mod meta.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2180, ulyana wrote:hm, but one of the duelists dies, so we should just be aiming for s/s
I think I agree that we should be voting two scummy people into the duel but the question in my mind is “how much accountability can we force in the duel” and the most logical answer is “probably none” so I feel like that should be factored in but idk how rn
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:35 am
by Toogeloo
Someone was saying you weren't allowed to shoot Galron again. I probably would have tried again, just wasn't sure if that had crossed your mind.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:38 am
by Dunnstral
In post 1749, Morning Tweet wrote:For now, only the Executioner, Gamma Emerald, may speak.
They have an additional forty-eight hours to choose a new Noble to lose their head. That Noble is killed, but not yet flipped.
Galron may not be chosen to be executed!
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:01 am
by Infinity 324
@peta i don't really agree but fair
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:15 am
by Morning Tweet
"Where's that understudy when I need them-- oh! There you are! You're up!"
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:17 am
by Dunnstral
:eyes:
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:18 am
by unwnd
Hi
I've been briefly spectating but my reads haven't developed outside of tonal leanings