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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:44 am
by Bowser Jr.
In post 2170, Skybird wrote:I wonder if the name of our PTs have any meaning.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm in a PT with DV. He Hasn't said much yet but I know he's in Australia. When I saw the PT I reviewed his slot because he feels like scum to me. I didn't see anything that made me feel different.

VOTE: DV
It’s a reference to your play most likely, ours is a reference to ours
In post 2173, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1973, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1971, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1956, Bowser Jr. wrote:They’re all based on whatever your individual flavor is
Yeah. Leading theory in ours is that there was a pt made for each play, and then if you are in the same play you are in the same pt. See me already out as titania and icebox already out as Nick bottom from midsummer nights dream

So, Gamma and Marci, I think that means you are the only people from your chosen play
that kinda makes sense

but why she worded stuff like people can be added in? and why will it close eventually?
Was thinking about this.

Does anyone else's new play based pt have anything about people adding or removing to the pt?

The midsummer one does not have anything to that effect
Seconding ours just says when it closes

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 am
by Off The Hook
In post 2132, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2092, Off The Hook wrote:money thingy: if we target town > we dont die, but our target dies.
Why would you pay to make your ability worse?
I wouldn't exactly call it "making it worse" and you shouldn't be either given your exp level
that essentially makes it just plain vig vs. desperado, which while more negative utility if hitting potentially valuable town players, is better to weed out low-contribution slots
In post 2133, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2092, Off The Hook wrote:slings and arrows: if we target town, we die instead
And this isn't really a downside
hmmm, it's almost like I addressed this before!
In post 1880, Off The Hook wrote:My slings and arrows could be seen as a negative but I think it’s just perfect for our current situation

-GE
I was very much alluding to the fact that we essentially treestump for a day phase if we misfire, allowing us to post for one day phase while not dealing with stupid SRs on us
Maybe try engaging us in good faith if you're town? :D just a thought!
In post 2134, Dunnstral wrote:And why didn't you use your role night 1?
because we couldn't sync on a target and also we were unsure whether we wanted to seppuku onto someone or save for the not-dying thing, and we also thought it was one-shot
In post 2135, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2127, Off The Hook wrote:BELL HOW TF DID U MAKE UR SONNET IM STRUGGLING SO MUCH IT TURNED INTO A "friendship is power" THEME BY ACCIDENT :cry: :cry:
Why are you attempting to get more gold?
greed lol
but seriously, why the fuck are you acting like us trying to survive a misfire is such a fucking cardinal sin?
Also iirc gold can have other uses besides what's in our role PMs?

-GE

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:51 am
by Off The Hook
In post 2175, Bowser Jr. wrote: Seconding ours just says when it closes
We specifically asked who was in it and were told that it was just us
for now


-GE

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:52 am
by Off The Hook
In post 2139, Wisdom wrote:
In post 379, DeasVail wrote:People who I'm too scared to label as townreads but I'm not really concerned enough about them to pursue things further right now:

Dunnstral
Juliet Capulet
Galron
WhemeStar
Noting that dv had both scum as nulltown here
I like this thought

-GE

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:56 am
by Off The Hook
also I was gonna case Cephrir as Luke asked but I don't rlly feel as strongly about Cephrir!scum because a point I had put into our chat was actually one that had Galron pre-flipped as town, and that was one of the points we kinda both had sync'ed on

-GE

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:57 am
by Cephrir
And you didn't rethink that *before* trying to kill me?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:59 am
by Bowser Jr.
I’m still leaning pretty heavily town on Ceph.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:00 am
by Off The Hook
which sux because we now have 0 SRs we rlly agree on but I asked marci about something that should help start discussion that will maybe lead to that
also UNVOTE:

-GE

PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad? A part of why you were the shot choice was out of all the names that came up as serious options, yours was the one that I was like "if we're wrong, it'll have the most benefit to be proven such because he's a strong voice that people can follow".

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 am
by Cephrir
I really wants to look at the contingent pushing dunn yesterday and how they evolved as galron's claim became increasingly ridiculous

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:06 am
by Cephrir
In post 2182, Off The Hook wrote:PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad?
Not that bad, but shooting scum is way better, because then you can still do this and scum are dead.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:35 am
by Skybird
Forgot to mention earlier that we don't have the ability to add people to our PT. It ends at the end of night 3.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:54 am
by Lukewarm
In post 2177, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 2175, Bowser Jr. wrote: Seconding ours just says when it closes
We specifically asked who was in it and were told that it was just us
for now


-GE
So is this mentioned in the opening message of the pt, or it came up during follow up questions with the mod?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:56 am
by Cephrir
In post 2184, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2182, Off The Hook wrote:PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad?
Not that bad, but shooting scum is way better, because then you can still do this and scum are dead.
Also, if you don't crumb, all you've done is kill yourself. im kind of puzzled by how poorly you thought this through.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:57 am
by Lukewarm
In post 2187, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2184, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2182, Off The Hook wrote:PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad?
Not that bad, but shooting scum is way better, because then you can still do this and scum are dead.
Also, if you don't crumb, all you've done is kill yourself. im kind of puzzled by how poorly you thought this through.
I asked the same thing. He said that he does not die at the night, but has claimed that he would be able to talk during the following day to tell everyone they had an inno on you

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:05 am
by Cephrir
In post 141, Galron wrote:Lukewarm v. Pav in -vibes like town recognizing each other.
:igmeou:
In post 479, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:

I have reason to believe this.
does anyone have any ideas what this (referring to cof poisoning) could be about? is there a scum poison doc?
In post 1081, Galron wrote:VOTE: Tamora
In post 1158, Galron wrote:Sorry. It's been a busy day.

Vote on Tamora is because I was relieved of my gold and a note was left by the burglar apparently:

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day.

It sounds kind of wifomy now, but coing out of morning I was thinking Tamora. And then her fis t couple of posts today were kinda scummy I thought.
this makes very little sense and points to this slot as town imo

also, the crier is just town after him spending 20 posts not understanding what a crier is, yeah?

pedit: oh, that's right, ok.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:08 am
by Cephrir
In post 1165, DeasVail wrote:Icebox, bowser jr., why aren’t you voting for me?

What you’re doing today makes it look like you were just trying to get a wagon on me D1 as a possible non-Juliet elim.
i'm wondering how this will progress (mostly noting for myself)

dv, why aren't you cute this game? it's all very serious and flat, but i'm not certain that's actually a scum trait for you

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:11 am
by Cephrir
In post 1215, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1176, Galron wrote:Are you going to vote for anyone Pav, DV, OTH?
Nah not yet.

OTH is my preferred vote at this point though.
after this you basically said you wanted to vote OTH again, then reread and dropped it and never mentioned them again/are soft defending them now. what's with that?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:18 am
by Cephrir
In post 1266, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1248, Galron wrote:Dunnstral is skeeving me out by lopping in excuses for me.
this post makes me think Dunn is town
me too
In post 1289, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I've been voting Galron since day 1, I saw the guilty, I'm just wondering how that changed people's minds so quickly without a claim.
it's so interesting that you went the total other way from everyone on this. idk what that means right now.
In post 1299, Galron wrote:I'm not a poison doc. I was just pointing out that usually there's a way to remedy that. No one's going to design a game where someone is poisoned out of the gate w/out an opportunity at getting cured.
this is bullshit, they definitely know something about cof

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:20 am
by Cephrir
In post 1321, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't think it's correct to kill them here either way. It's worth getting another result or seeing scum shoot them for us.

I think I would rather kill Dunnstral
In post 1322, Wisdom wrote:We agree then, im staying om dunn
idk if i can convince myself the tag team effort from these two for like 10 pages just happens to both be town

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:24 am
by Cephrir
In post 1387, Titus wrote:VOTE: Dunn

I feel Galron is probably scum, but I agree with the mechanical call more.
oof

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:31 am
by Cephrir
In post 1437, Wisdom wrote:OTH is obvtown
can you do words here
In post 1438, DeasVail wrote:A reread quenches some of the fire
Let us see what else shall transpire

VOTE: Cephrir
i don't like the timing of this w/ everything surrounding it making it seem like it might be doable
In post 1478, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1454, Bowser Jr. wrote:I think cephrirs post conveys he doesn’t give a fuck this game, a typically town-Cephrir trait. He sounds nothing like bloodstained.

Of the three, he’s the only one I’m against for reasons that aren’t “there’s a person tracked to TWO people who have had malicious actions against them”
It feels like Ceph is doing the minimum amount possible to appear engaged and town, and I don't get the sense of there being a town-mind behind Ceph's posts trying to solve the game. He's just saying things.
why have you chosen to do this over trying to engage me?

right now my vibe is that scum were in the kill dunn contingent (wis, lld, oth, titus but she's town, sorta dv) or were not posting here

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:36 am
by Cephrir
In post 1604, Off The Hook wrote:and the second is him [Dunn --C] trying to nudge Cephrir into pushing us
this looks like something someone who thinks i'm town would say, but they didn't think i was town at this time
In post 1698, Off The Hook wrote:is cephrir scum yes or yes :P
this is the same head

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:38 am
by Cephrir
In post 1750, GuiltyLion wrote:LLD - Early vote/pressure on Galron and I think her arguments and play on D2 has also felt natural and genuine much like Bowser Jr's - I especially like that she calls him town and threatened Galron to not shade/vote obvious townies. My only worry here is if I'm a million percent wrong on Galron/many of my other reads, she strikes me as someone with a capable scum game, but in most universes I think she's town and I'd really only re-evaluate her if the situation was dire.
the award for underestimation of the year goes to...

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:39 am
by fferyllt
thou quantity, thou remnant.

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:39 am
by fferyllt
The Bard wrote ten plays about the history of Medieval England and its royal dynasties up to and including Henry VIII,whose reign occurred during the transition to the Renaissance.
King John
is the first of these plays, and is also the least loved of them. However, unlike Timon of Greece, there is historical record of this play being performed during Shakespeare's lifetime. John was the son of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine, and the younger brother of Richard the Lionheart. Yes,
that
John.