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In post 2159, Well Done wrote:

In post 2140, Well Done wrote: post 0, Flavor Leaf"]

Mastina

Flavor Leaf takes action by actively pushing

Votato

catboi, and starts coming across as one of the main people pushing him, which will help her when he flips Red, setting her up for some major Town Clout

In post 0, Flavor Leaf wrote:Gamefic 1:

Mastina

Flavor Leaf’s main Red push all game was

Votato

catboi, who flipped Red.

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But like, I don't even think of the game in the terms that you do. I don't know that I can map out what you are asking in the terms that you are asking them

I read your posts, and they felt slimy like a used car sales man, and I didn't trust you. I spotted an apparent mindset shift when approaching the game that I did not trust. I spotted manipulative looking posts that I didn't trust. And I spotted posts that looked like they were buddying. And I didn't trust any of them either.

And then I read your guide, and I felt like I was reading an explanation for each of the things that I felt about your play

In post 2167, Flavor Leaf wrote:So your theory is that Catboi and I are scum together?

In post 1771, mastina wrote:

In post 820, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wouldn’t it be funny if Mastina’s huge explanation of their usage of an system they cannot really describe in full because of hod complex it is, is just an fancy way of saying: "gut check"

I mean gut is always used in even the most logical of systems since no system has a "100% guaranteed" tell that will

always

indicate an alignment. If a tell is 75-25, you still have to use gut to determine if it's the 75 or the 25. Statistically speaking, it'll usually be the 75 because it wouldn't be 75-25 if the 75 wasn't more common than the 25, but statistically speaking, it still can be the 25 because it wouldn't be 75-25 if there wasn't a 25.

In post 807, Toogeloo wrote:How do you have a scum lean on a slot that never even picked up their role PM?

In post 808, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 641, Cephrir wrote:momo will be replaced if they fail to pick up their role PM by tomorrow morning.

Momo didn't skip out on the game because they didn't like their role PM. They didn't even open it.

While this seems like a fair argument initially, it falls apart when you realize one simple fact.

You don't need to look at your

role PM

to know that you have drawn scum.

You can just

look at your private topics

and tell that you have drawn scum.

Tell me: how can Cephrir differentiate between "momo has not viewed the PM or the scum PT at all", and, "momo did not view the PM, viewed the scum PT, but just didn't post in the scum PT"?

The two are entirely inseparable to him. But the difference between the former and the latter is a difference in likely alignment for the slot.

And since momo flakes more often as scum and momo need not read his role PM to learn that he is scum, trying to clear yourself from momo having not read the role PM doesn't actually work. In fact, it's the opposite; it makes the slot

more

likely to be scum--not less.

In post 1780, catboi wrote:The gears are turning in my head. I think I overreacted to Wallflower because I don't like being tunneled, especially not the way she went after me, but something as simple as the exchange about STD last night didn't ~feel~ like the route scum would take. Need a few hours to sit down and look at the playerlist and sort things through.

In post 2184, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Flavor, did you see the 1705 about Nashville Dreams?

In post 2181, Flavor Leaf wrote:let's just try our luck with the beloved princess and see what crazy stuff happens over night.

VOTE: Mastina

In post 2169, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:VOTE: Nashville Dreams

I'm all caught up, although admittedly I kind of skimmed the last bits of the Well Done and Flavor argument since i don't think I got anything out of that. I still think the Nashville Dreams case is better than anything those two are slinging at each other though.

I'm tentatively townleaning Flavor -- I'm vibing some of his main scumreads and coming around to scum!catboi, whose 1498 pinged me and because his weird townread on mastina on page 72. mastina is also scummy -- I wasn't feeling her vague butterchurn push or the momo PT thing. I also find Flavor pretty manipulative as town in general, so I'm not sure the points made against him are AI.

I also think Klick could be scum -- his posts pinged me as pocket-y, like when he was talking to Mena about filler stuff on page 61 instead of taking the time to work with Mena on reads.

In post 1962, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 1957, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't know malcolm you just don't feel like i've seen you and i can't really describe it.

the cassowary post stands out because it's something scum could easily hedge with and go either direction with in the future, if cassowary finds herself under suspicion then you can jump on it or defend depending on what would work better

I feel like I wasn't really myself early game - I do often struggle for reads a bit but felt very thin on the ground after my initial catch-up. But I feel like my Cassowary post is pretty much basic town from my POV as to how I play - outline a case for why a player might be X alignment, but then outline a potentially opposite stance for why my initial bit could be wrong. I get this may be frustrating as it can be vague at times but it's perfectly in-line with my thinking as town most of the time.

If I made that post about, say, Monkey for example, I could maybe get where you're coming from because Monkey's had lots of different reads on them from all sorts of angles...but Cassowary hasn't had a lot of attention heaped on them up until now, and I was basically doing some ISO checks to formulate thoughts on some players I'd not really formed an opinion on so far.

In post 2192, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Neither player is too interested in the game. Inactive, lazy takes and easy shades. Etc.

In post 1794, tictac wrote:

In post 1776, tictac wrote:

In post 1227, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:whoa TB was pooky? I guess that doesn't surprise me given the typing style, but pooky felt mean this game Contrary to what other people have said, that actually feels a bit out of character given my experience with him

yea

more specifically, i felt TB vs leaf was an overdramatic and artificial argument about stuff that wasn't at all related to this game and not at all aimed at yeeting either of them.
in other words, it looked like svs to me, tho more strongly so from TB side of things.
VOTE: TB

In post 1809, butterchurn wrote:

In post 1783, catboi wrote:Scumreading butterchurn is unironically the towniest thing mastina has posted

Why do you say that? I don't know mastina very well, is this something related to her as a player?

In post 1820, Flavor Leaf wrote:Like to me, Mastina’s catch up looks like damage control.

In post 2195, catboi wrote:

In post 2192, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Neither player is too interested in the game. Inactive, lazy takes and easy shades. Etc.

I have both posted more than you and certainly had more thought out takes than you. For the record, I was stuck in a high-intensity game offsite when this started that severely diminished my ability to focus on this game which is why my posting did lapse for period of time. I hadn't intended it to be that way, this game just kind of filled by surprise when I was signed for other one. I had assumed being MS and this having a long deadline I could take it easy for at fisrt. Regardless, that's done now and I can focus my full attention on the game.