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Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:20 pm**

springlullaby wrote:You replace Pirate Chemist.

Role PM

You are
Jacqueline Champollion
, you work for the in house art restoration team of the Louvre. Being the Directeur's daughter, rumours of privilege have made relation with your colleagues difficult in the beginning, especially with the female co-workers who had categorized you as an empty headed daddy's daugther because of the appeal men tend to find in you. But despite being blonde, you actually have a brain, and do love your job. You liked repairing broken things as a child, and it is the same sentiment of satisfaction that graces you when you succeed in re-giving a painting or an artefact its original beauty. The murder of your father has deeply saddened and frightened you, but you are now determined that no further harm will be done if you can prevent it.

Wincon

You dearly love the Louvre and will do anything to save it. You win when all threats to the Museum have been eliminated from the game or if nothing can prevent the same.

Abilities

Vote:
during the day, you may cast a vote which will count toward a lynch.

Restoration:
Each night you may a player to protect from harm.

The game thread can be found here.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:23 pm**

↑ kanyeknowsbest wrote:good thing u didnt need a fakeclaim : ]

*cough* *cough* *cough* *cough*

i think that spring wanted you to be forced to claim mummy so that youd have a reason to use your pr body part stuff since the clues point to the mummy. so mean springchan~~

Well, the thing is. I had no plausible reason to pick up post restrictions. In addition to that, what I don't think you get is that the post restriction

is in and of itself a clue

, just not one the mod directly and explicitly provides.

Also that's not even the

second

version of The Broken Jug that I found in my research. What is this, I don't even, etc.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:23 pm**

Seriously who was causing the visions?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:11 pm**

↑ Oversoul wrote:This game was awesome

↑ Zar wrote:I KNEW VI WAS SCUMMMM

I think the mod was causing the visions. damn you vi, superwell played. I got you there! but you quickhammered me nicely

I'm guessing you didn't really 'by mistake' hammer, right? just pretended?

wonderful game. my pm:

springlullaby wrote:
Role PM

You are
The Artifact
. You look like a vaguely shaped dark rock the size of a fist, only you are not made of mineral but of mystery and perhaps of something resembling raw concentrated energy. You are possibly ancient, or magical, or extra-terrestrial, or even a shard of Phlebotinum from a parallel universe. No one knows, not even you. Slightly warm to the touch, you emit a telltale faint glow and you are currently sitting pretty atop the recently deceased Directeur’s desk in his office. You don’t know why you are here either, or how, but you have an inkling that the recent agitation which has been taking place around you may not be stranger to yourself. But it does not concern you, because the only thing you know for sure is that you must continue to be. To that end agitation is not indicated and you are quite resolute in ushering fate along.

Wincon

The only thing that matters to you is your own continued existence. You win when a single faction remains and you have survived to witness it.

Abilities

Vote:
during the day, you may cast a vote which will count toward a lynch.

Suggestion:
your semi-sentience coupled with your mysterious power allows you to perform a mild form of telekinesis in order facilitate your survival. Each day, you may write a short message with the content of your choice and select a recipient amongst the players still alive, I will pass your message along.

Unknown material (passive):
the mysterious material you are made of is virtually indestructible. It renders you immune to any night action. Moreover, if you are targeted by a night action, the perpetrator will be stunned into unconsciousness by a blast of pure energy which will render them unconscious for the remaining of the night.

The game thread can be found here.

Please reply to this PM to confirm that you have read and understood your role.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:25 pm**

↑ shos wrote:damn you vi, superwell played. I got you there! but you quickhammered me nicely I'm guessing you didn't really 'by mistake' hammer, right? just pretended?

Let's go with that.~

I actually didn't want to lynch you, but 1) it happened, and 2) had I actually brought you to LyLo you probably would

not

have tried to autowin with me, even though I had fought so hard to get that far

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:38 pm**

this game could end with a both-independent win if you didn't lynch me..

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:20 pm**

you would have died shos, she was a serial killer >_>

TRAITOR

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:26 pm**

Nuwen what was that batshit claim you came up with?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:28 pm**

Ah I see, so she was indeed Ninja SK

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:33 pm**

↑ Zar wrote:Nuwen what was that batshit claim you came up with?

Just a batshit claim. My real role was investigate-immune possessor-thingy (where possession caused Parama to be the perpetrator of the scum kill). Two-man team.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:40 pm**

well it should be nominated for best role claim, frankly.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:47 pm**

↑ Zar wrote:you would have died shos, she was a serial killer >_>

TRAITOR

no wait you were unkillable. >_>

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:56 pm**

Oh, this got unlocked before Flay got back to me about unlocking it for me. In retrospect, I probably should've gone with hasdgfas. Oh well.

Meh.

Role PM

You are

Antinous Mondragone

, a colossal bust dating from the Roman Empire. You were a lover, a sacrifice, then a god. The recent events that have taken place in the Louvre which is now your home have troubled you. You have decided to help fate along in capturing the culprits by using your divine power to protect innocents from harm. But if the innocents turn against you, they will have to suffer the fate of the blasphemers.

Wincon

You dearly love the Louvre and will do anything to save it. You win when all threats to the Museum have been eliminated from the game or if nothing can prevent the same.

Abilities

Vote:
during the day, you may cast a vote which will count toward a lynch.
Symbolic sacrifice:
Each night you may select a player whom you will protect from harm. If the player is targeted by a kill, you will sacrifice yourself to save them.
Death of a god (passive):
If you are lynched at any point in the game, the next day phase will be skipped entirely as the town grieves.

Being a bodyguard beloved princess is why I was so eager to claim a protective role. Wanted to get shot.

Game was meh. Would never have guessed that it was a 9v2v1 with a survivor thrown in. Happy with my calling of Yos and Zar as town. Sad that shos got lynched, especially given Nuwen's reactions to him in the thread, but as I said in the Dead QT, I'd probably be pretty suspicious of charter based on Nuwen-who-was-fakeclaiming-not-seeing-him-as-a-threat.

Still maintain that Vi's "I-don't-know-what-my-role-does" claim was bad and should feel bad, but can't overly much blame Zar for trusting his report. I would've gone for a third Mafia member over a bulletproof-and-essentially-all-but-investigation-proof-SK-in-a-game-that-already-had-a-survivor as well, had I lived.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:28 pm**

Other things:

Setup, as near as I can figure out, was this:

Mafia (2)

- Furcolow (some form of rolecop?)
- Nuwen (Investigation-Immune Tracker-Framer)

3rd Party (2)

- shos (Bulletproof Ascetic Survivor)
- Vi (Bulletproof Tracker-Immune SK)

Town (9)

- Hiraki (Doctor)
- Yosarian2 (assuming he's not lying about his role, limited vig)
- Zar (Tracker)
- charter (flavor cop)
- Elmo TeH AzN (flavor cop)
- kanyeknowbest (flavor cop) [1]
- Parama (jailkeeper)
- UberNinja (flavor cop)
- Magua (Beloved Princess Bodyguard)

Investigative-wise, the town got hosed and the non-Town got hosed only if they actually fakeclaimed, which they had pretty much no reason to actually do. As near as I can tell, only one person had a role that required them to fakeclaim (Nuwen), and that person was investigation immune. Vi's role arguably required them to fakeclaim[2]...but only upon the fifth kill, so, yeah. The real point for the scum being that it was a Vanilla-less game, and only Furcolow had a power that was at all claimable as a town power. Taking the flavor cops out, town's only other investigative role was a tracker...who all the killing roles were essentially immune to, and town had one hidden miller for (Parama). So, yeah.

Yeah.

Protection-wise, the town had (as near as I can tell) a doctor, a bodyguard, and a jailkeeper, plus both third parties being bulletproof. This is where I feel the Mafia, in particular, got shafted.

As near as I can tell, the dreams/omens/what not were provided by springlullaby and not by any Town roles during the game (...and were the only even possibly useful investigations in the game, which is....yeah.)

[1] kanyeknowsbest had springlullaby broaden his role in response to UberNinja dying.

[2] I am amazed that springlullaby didn't think about the fakeclaim situation before the game started (as none of the scum received one as part of their role), and then after the game started, handled the fakeclaim situation in such a way that, given the incredibly large number of flavor cops the game had, had any of the scum actually made use of, would've doomed them.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:42 pm**

Other other thing:

Survivor is a terrible role. Bulletproof survivor is even more terrible...er. Literally would've been a better setup in pretty much every way imaginable if shos' role had actually been a Mafia goon, IMO.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:47 pm**

Finally, the only things I don't know are:
- What the Demotic script was supposed to mean.
- Why Zar's track of Furcolow failed N1 (but at this point I would not be surprised if Furcolow was also some form of investigation immune)
- Where the dreams/visions (eg, Hiraki's vision) came from (assuming springlullaby)

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:55 pm**

Furcolow's ability was a rolecop/block combo. Bits of his PM are in our QT.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:00 pm**

↑ Magua wrote:Finally, the only things I don't know are:

- What the Demotic script was supposed to mean.

Should've read Vi's spoiler about communication-with-springlullaby better (I skipped it originally as I knew Vi's role from collecting the PMs).

El-oh-el.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:08 am**

Not exactly excited that all the antitown elements were untraceable, but meh.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:09 am**

UberNinja wasn't a Forensic Investigator?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:55 am**

↑ Zar wrote:you would have died shos, she was a serial killer >_>

TRAITOR

No, I think Survivor and SK can win together.

But it would have been kind of hard to get shos to think of voting No Lynch in LyLo without either him thinking about it or me telling him. Me telling him means there's a good chance that shos-playing-Town would just vote me for the effort.

LOL Magua was a B.Princess. Wasn't that Katsuki's slot?

Although I kind of like the B.Princess/Bodyguard duality.

Vi's role arguably required them to fakeclaim[2]...but only upon the fifth kill, so, yeah.

Again making clear that fake flavor claim != fake role claim.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:55 am**

↑ Zar wrote:Not exactly excited that all the antitown elements were untraceable, but meh.

I wasn't immune to tracks if I submitted the kill myself, and I asked Spring how the possession ability would resolve if tracked:

SpringLullaby wrote:Possession and NK are considered independent abilities.
If Nuwen is blocked using possession, both the kill and the possession will be blocked.
If Nuwen is tracked using possession, Nuwen will be tracked to Polypheme Desroches, but not to the victim.
If Polypheme Desroches is blocked while possessed, the kill will fail.
If Polypheme Desroches is tracked while possessed, they will be tracked to the victim.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:59 am**

So the visions revealed Shos, Nuwen and The Mummy, i think?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:01 am**

↑ Magua wrote:Still maintain that Vi's "I-don't-know-what-my-role-does" claim was bad and should feel bad

Um. Magua. I was surrounded by

extremely confirmable, unique, and flavorful roles

, not to mention

the mod explicitly telling everyone that the mummy was implicated in the N2 kill

. "Bad and should feel bad" is pretty much the only option. I believe the phrase I gave s-lully on N4 was "I hope nobody notices me surfing to victory on an invisible tsunami of bullshit", because THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULD DO. I respect that you were able to see through it - and thanks for dying when you did - but don't hate.

Also, this is my 10,000th post onsite. I am now a member of the No-Life Club.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:04 am**

Yeah, this is a SK deja-Vu of 1308 ._.

Next time some sort of death scene flickers an inch of your flavorful role you will die in the pits of hell Vi

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