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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:54 pm

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wat. If my vote needed anywhere? Will read later
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:55 pm

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pirate mollie wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:I really want to be lynched guys.


Not happening. You just town cleared yourself and we're about to lynch your scumread Nacho.


can we then lynch grey?

cos that is what my team terribly wants.




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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:56 pm

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I don't like to change my reads. My reads are static. Second guessing sucks.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:57 pm

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Why in the name of lord did GreyICE hop on nacho now??
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:58 pm

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Be back later. 22h
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:06 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:I really want to be lynched guys.


Not happening. You just town cleared yourself and we're about to lynch your scumread Nacho.


can we then lynch grey?

cos that is what my team terribly wants.




Yes. Grey after nacho

No. Follow the plan.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:46 pm

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VOTE: nacho
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:08 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
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pirate mollie wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:I really want to be lynched guys.


Not happening. You just town cleared yourself and we're about to lynch your scumread Nacho.


can we then lynch grey?

cos that is what my team terribly wants.




Yes. Grey after nacho

No. Follow the plan.


Did you discard page 56 plan cause that one was actually the plan I was going to follow! I think you know that I dislike dynamic plans!


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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:08 pm

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In fact I don't even think nacho is scum anymore!

Cold the feet
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:19 pm

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VOTE: nacho
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:20 pm

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What the shit!
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:21 pm

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Kagami! Did you know that was a hammer!
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:21 pm

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Prepare the drone!
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:22 pm

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why are supposedly good players playing like shit
First hoopla and then we have this!
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:22 pm

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The funny thing was it may possibly come from town!


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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:24 pm

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Follow the plan.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:25 pm

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But you changed reads! I can't follow a read changer!!!!!! HELP ME ASDGHHJKKLL
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:25 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Give Sotty 48 hours to prepare her list of four names. If she provides them and flips town, follow her reads exactly. If she doesn't post them and flips town, then Metal Sonic chooses the next day's lynch, with the caveat that he does not lynch ZZZX. If Sotty flips scum, follow the same procedure with Kagami.

It is important that this plan is followed to a T: lynch order is important, trusting town whenever they are lynched is important. If you are town, prepping the best list you possibly can is important.

Is anything about this unclear/unsatisfactory?

Lynching order is Sotty ---> Kagami ---> GreyICE ---> Zar. The only thing that changes lynching order is a town flip.

Wgeurts, ABR, ZZZX, GreyICE have all agreed to this. I would very much like Metal Sonic, ooba, and Mollie to agree with this. I would very much like Zar to agree with this. I would very much like Kagami to agree with this.

There should not be any deviations from this plan for any reason whatsoever.

This is the plan. Follow the plan. From now on, the game is a game of will: who will bend, who will break, who will deviate. Do not deviate.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:27 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:But you changed reads! I can't follow a read changer!!!!!! HELP ME ASDGHHJKKLL

If other people refuse to follow the plan, don't get distracted and bother with them, just keep moving forward. Please. Promise me this.
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:28 pm

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This is my dying breath, my time taken away by a scum quickhammer. Do not deviate, do not delay, do not get distracted.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:29 pm

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DID YOU THROW THIS PLAN AWAY!!!

Nachomamma8 wrote:Before I go, I need everyone to agree that they will follow my reads that when I'm gone. It is optimal town strategy to play popcorn lynching in this situation (two mislynches in a row in an 8:4 nightless) because our voting to power is going to go to shit when I'm gone. The lynches I want are:

Kagami --> EddieFenix --> Sotty --> Seraphim

I understand the Eddie over Sotty case is surprising and weird to most, but I'm scumreading mollie at the moment and that read takes priority over pretty much anything else (Kagami goes first because her scumflip is literally the best thing this game can get).

The townies in this game are:

ABR
ZZZX
Metal Sonic
wgeurts

---gap---

Zar
GreyICE

From this point on, you operate as a group. The best thing I can do for you is be the cement Hoopla talked about yesterday: if you have any doubts, any questions about that group, let me know and I'll get to them as soon as possible. I will not focus on defending myself as much anymore because I do believe my death can be a really good thing for town: I'm going down, but I'm going to make sure the scumteam is absolutely fucked when that hammer vote on me.

I know I'm a dramatic person. I'm sorry, I have a lot of fun when I'm playing mafia. That doesn't mean I'm being emotional about this. That doesn't mean that I'm wrong about optimal play here. Don't go "oh, nacho freaked out/nacho's a weirdo/nacho's dumb/nacho played poorly" because that's not the truth in any world. I don't get this way often about games, but this game turned out to be absolutely perfect for the things that I'm good at doing, and I'm putting in the work, I'm putting in the time, I'm doing my part for this town win.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:29 pm

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MUST I DISREGARD THIS TOO

Nachomamma8 wrote:ABR: I was frustrated with you earlier because I didn't understand your approach, but I understand it now. You are who brought this town together. You are the guiding hand, and you are the voice. Please, trust me in this moment and carry out my lynches when I'm gone: your goal is to keep the town together, and, if the worst happens and Kagami flips town, it is your job and your job alone to tear down the town block and form a new one. If Kagami is town, please place faith in her like you've placed faith in me. I love the way you've brought this town together with nothing but unfiltered passion: don't let go of that after I flip town.

Metal Sonic: Don't be afraid to have a little faith in other people. The missteps you are making are because you're taking too much on your back all on once: you have made strong pushes, you have played well. But your biggest mistake has been shutting people out. Stop shutting people out. If you disagree with the game plan, bring BBMolla into the conversation, tell him Nacho sent you: he's a strong player who is underestimated very very easily because he's inconsistent and distracted by shinies just a *little* too easily. He will understand exactly what I'm doing here.

ZZZX: Don't let up. You're falling behind, you're not putting the heart you were when this game first started. Yeah, the game lags sometimes and lynches don't happen instantly, but that doesn't mean nothing is happening and putting that heart and impatience into looking over the game more and putting your thoughts in the thread is going to help people see how town you are a lot a lot a lot. You also have a problem of shutting people out like Metal Sonic: don't do that. You know how shitty it feels when people call you a bad player and when people don't give you a chance to contribute, so don't make the same mistake they do.

Wgeurts: Have faith in me! Your play this game is great, your move onto me despite not scumreading me was enough to demonstrate exactly what ABR was doing and exactly what this game needed, and thank you for that. I don't think Sotty is town. I don't think Zar is scum. Make sure to look over why I think the things I do before I die so you can ask me questions if you need them. Also, I'm a guy.

GreyICE: I'm glad to play with you again, you're a fucking great player and I forgot actually how much I enjoyed playing with you when you're on your game. Don't get distracted by dumb shit, and please please please please please use my flip to its highest potential. I know you don't understand some of my play but you understand enough and you were my rock this game, so thank you for that. I'd love to play scum against you sometime in the future: I'm actually pretty proud of my improvements there and am pretty confident I'd steamroll the hell out of you :]

Zar: I didn't realize how strong you actually were as a player until your recent posts, please post more. Your logic is on point, your reasons for reading people make perfect fucking sense, and I'm glad I got to gain newfound respect for you as a player. I don't actually have anything except "be louder, be more aggressive" and apologies for not reaching out sooner: I honestly had no idea how to react to the swap because it was quiet and weird and I didn't really understand reasons for why, but I also don't understand the dynamic between you-Empire-Tammy, and I can see you being frustrated with not being seen because you are a very strong player.

Kagami: If you are town, you are the only chance town has of winning. If you are town, I have failed, and you are going to die. Come to terms with that fact. Prepare for death. Be aggressive, be open about your thoughts, be loud. There's no reason to hide those pocket scumreads because you absolutely 100% are going to die and there's literally nothing you can do in order to prevent that death. What you CAN do now is set the stage for a town win after you're gone: be the cement I'm trying to be now.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:29 pm

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I have the utmost faith that we can still pull this out, despite many rocky roads, but do not let yourself get distracted.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:30 pm

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MUST I COMPLETELY FORGET THE KIND MOTIVATIONAL WORDS THAT YOU SAID??????
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:30 pm

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Sonic.
If you don't have the ability to switch reads, you are a shitty player. I switched reads.
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