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@SC, I am not sure what you think is a contradiction but I am not surprised. Sonic and I don't perceive things the same way, especially now when high strung. I am much more open to being wrong given the state I am in.

@Wicked, This situation came up in another game. Ika was not around, did not hammer and was scum. It was not deadline though. He made a similar argument pre and post game that it was taking advantage of his circumstances. I disagreed then and still do, yet if he feels that way, I get why he was upset.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/o ... ce.377844/

Hey, LC. Know how you and I have kinda been buddy-buddy so far in the game? How you've been the most obvtown, threatening-to-scum-in-all-likelihood player?

Sorry. You just got demoted.

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:town who has no real intentions of reading the game.
TSO, who should I vote?

Here, let me give you the steps to the game.

1. Know you are town.
   
2. Know that we have already figured out you are town.
   
3. Know I am town.
   
4. Know Sonic Boom (and Flubber) are scum.
   
5. Read my iso.
   
6. Vote for Sonic Boom (or alternatively, Flubber).
   
7. If you are uncertain, read again.
   
8. If you still can't see any of the above, read LC's iso. It might be slightly longer or shorter, but still doable.
   
9. If all else fails, trudge through the much longer iso of Sonic Boom. (Or the needs-every-detail-read-to-see-the-scum iso of Flubber.)

You won't regret it.

(Not necessarily in that order, but you get the idea. Applies to TSO, too.)

Nacho/TSO, I would read Hiplop first, reach a conclusion there. We are the cop target tonight. We are establishing a train of either revealing the alignment of "scummy" players by weak cop or by forcing scum to shoot them.

↑ Antihero wrote:

TSO replaces Ankamius
Nachomamma8 replaces Tere
Aristophanes replaces Mac

This is a bright spot in an otherwise shitty day. Welcome to the game guys.

i'm gone tomorrow, but jingle should still be around.

@Town- I feel like a lot of my posts have been ignored, I would appreciate if this one could be read carefully.

Jaqen continues to say that Lying Cat's plan produces no information, because scum could follow the chain. He continues to ignore the fact that scum killing players in the chain is good - it means scum are killing players that we suspect. He continues to make the claim that this plan involves scum killing confirmed townies, but that is blatantly false. I've explained why.

There is a reason why he's being unreasonably stubborn right now, even claiming that he would target ZZZX if he received the invention (regardless of if it followed the plan). It's because he does not want to be in the chain - all players in the chain are investigated.

Any player that publicly role fishes is either scum or obviously has no place being involved in conversations regarding the three plans. Yet he's been heavily involved.

Yesterday, he made the claim that Bins-goon was trying to save ZZZX-PR's life. I asked him if he had ever seen scum do that before and rather than answer the question he rudely dodges it. It's fine if he's never seen scum sacrifice for a partner before, but his refusal to answer the question indicates that he didn't actually believe it was happening with ZZZX and Bins.

Jaqen repeatedly suggested that we lynch him so that we can 'follow his reads after he flips town'. I repeatedly asked if he thought this was in town's best interest or if he thought town would actually do this and he refuses to answer. I think he kept suggesting that we lynch him because he wants to gain town credit - it's clear because he refuses to admit that he doesn't expect town to actually take his suggestion.

I think Jaqen's most likely scum. If there's no interest, then I'll happily switch to hiplop, but I think this is much better.

↑ Wickedestjr wrote: If there's no interest, then I'll happily switch to hiplop, but I think this is much better.

Right, I should talk about this.

Nacho, TSO, you absolutely CANNOT join the hiplop wagon. He's the scum's designated mislynch for today. Basically the only resistance is me + LC, and the wagon is there with incredible ease and speed. If you're too lazy to read my iso, if it's too much for you, then take at least that much away from me here now, please. If you join the hiplop wagon, he will get lynched, and he will flip town.

Mastin was also certain Bins was scum even after she claimed a power role, and she was certain I was scum for reasons she never actually said except for quoting a couple posts made by others saying "That's a good point." or "I agree".
Sonic said, "I have a meta scum read on Marq." and Mastin responded by saying, "That's a good point, I didn't think of that."

I bring this up because Mastin's last post looks incredibly manipulative, and not even close to the whole story.

mastin's probably town though.

Can you expand on that for me?

↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote:Hmmmm, two strong town reads in Vezok and Zzzx both think Sonic is town and they have meta experience. Marq has experience and think their scum. Logically, they are super scummy, especially after contradicting their other head, but my gut still thinks they're town for some reason.
I think a part of the reason is they've had extremely similar reads as me which makes me think their thought process of similar to mine. I.e. a town thought process.

By the way, this is me thinking aloud so you can skip this considering I'm conf town now.

If a man is remembering correctly, both heads are good with finding town, yes? Enter Sonic and crazy and the other crazy (<3 ya Titus). Can this one not see how easy it is for scum to be agreeing with a good leader's reads as scum?

↑ ZZZX wrote:

vote:ika

Not caring is major scum ika note. Mostly I think

not really, wehn i get people who i dislike and players who i like repace out it tends to eb like that but *shrugs*

fyi im drunk and kinda pissy but i should be up

↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote:Can you expand on that for me?

Yeah we're uninformed masons and i'm pretty sure she is too.

New idea: can we lynch ika?

↑ Wickedestjr wrote:@Town- I feel like a lot of my posts have been ignored, I would appreciate if this one could be read carefully.

Jaqen continues to say that Lying Cat's plan produces no information, because scum could follow the chain. He continues to ignore the fact that scum killing players in the chain is good - it means scum are killing players that we suspect. He continues to make the claim that this plan involves scum killing confirmed townies, but that is blatantly false. I've explained why.

There is a reason why he's being unreasonably stubborn right now, even claiming that he would target ZZZX if he received the invention (regardless of if it followed the plan). It's because he does not want to be in the chain - all players in the chain are investigated.

Any player that publicly role fishes is either scum or obviously has no place being involved in conversations regarding the three plans. Yet he's been heavily involved.

Yesterday, he made the claim that Bins-goon was trying to save ZZZX-PR's life. I asked him if he had ever seen scum do that before and rather than answer the question he rudely dodges it. It's fine if he's never seen scum sacrifice for a partner before, but his refusal to answer the question indicates that he didn't actually believe it was happening with ZZZX and Bins.

Jaqen repeatedly suggested that we lynch him so that we can 'follow his reads after he flips town'. I repeatedly asked if he thought this was in town's best interest or if he thought town would actually do this and he refuses to answer. I think he kept suggesting that we lynch him because he wants to gain town credit - it's clear because he refuses to admit that he doesn't expect town to actually take his suggestion.

I think Jaqen's most likely scum. If there's no interest, then I'll happily switch to hiplop, but I think this is much better.

This one is asking questions

↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:Ah. Ok

Yes, I have

And yes as it is proving a man's intent and then all those decrying a man for being a fucktard are having egg in their face and you can then get rid of ZZZX and SB because they're scum

And not bothering with reading answers...

How in the fuck

↑ Lying Cat wrote:How in the fuck

Hitf what?

do you know what context is?

↑ Lying Cat wrote:

↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote:Can you expand on that for me?

Yeah we're uninformed masons and i'm pretty sure she is too.

New idea: can we lynch ika?

Sorry, but I'm pretty new at this so I don't know if this is a joke or not.

↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:

↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote:Hmmmm, two strong town reads in Vezok and Zzzx both think Sonic is town and they have meta experience. Marq has experience and think their scum. Logically, they are super scummy, especially after contradicting their other head, but my gut still thinks they're town for some reason.
I think a part of the reason is they've had extremely similar reads as me which makes me think their thought process of similar to mine. I.e. a town thought process.

By the way, this is me thinking aloud so you can skip this considering I'm conf town now.

If a man is remembering correctly, both heads are good with finding town, yes? Enter Sonic and crazy and the other crazy (<3 ya Titus). Can this one not see how easy it is for scum to be agreeing with a good leader's reads as scum?

Well, Marq disagrees with some of my reads, and I don't think they'd specifically choose to copy me.
I think scum would be best copying Mastin if she's town.
Which was one of the reasons I was going to cover on my Lying Cat case because of his timely buddying and timely reads compared to Mastin, but no one reads cases on this site anyway.

Do the long division. I'm not here to hold your hand.

Nah, I'm good. I'll just assume you don't have any reasons for now.

↑ mastin2 wrote:

↑ Wickedestjr wrote: If there's no interest, then I'll happily switch to hiplop, but I think this is much better.

Right, I should talk about this.

Nacho, TSO, you absolutely CANNOT join the hiplop wagon.

He's the scum's designated mislynch for today

. Basically the only resistance is me + LC, and the wagon is there with incredible ease and speed. If you're too lazy to read my iso, if it's too much for you, then take at least that much away from me here now, please. If you join the hiplop wagon, he will get lynched, and he will flip town.

He was at L-1 yesterday, and there are people who actively chose to no lynch rather than lynch a slot with absolutely no town credibility. It is unsurprising that a wagon sprang up on him immediately. The more surprising thing is that the wagon isn't stronger.

If he's the scum designated mislynch, which members of that wagon are scum Mastin?

Right now:
hiplop - 5 (Tere, vezokpiraka, ZZZX, Flubbernugget, Sonic Boom)

Yesterdays final vote count:
(vezokpiraka, ZZZX, Flubbernugget, Sonic Boom, Tere, Ankamius, Bins, Cerberus v666)

So the first 5 on the wagon are the same both days. Sonic and flubber are the scum to you mastin correct?

Flubber and Sonic, with Wicked and Kari being weak scum reads were her 4.
Can't say I remember Flubber doing much pushing though.