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In post 2199, MariaR wrote:Shiro am I scum

In post 2205, ActionDan wrote:Me too.

In post 2211, MariaR wrote:Why?no

In post 2203, MariaR wrote:Shiro you're suppose to at me we're bussing

In post 2207, ActionDan wrote:I mean let's be real. Dunnstral and Firebringer are clowns. Scummy clowns sure. But Cabd isn't that, and I expect more from him at this point.

Firebringer wrote:

In post 2207, ActionDan wrote:I mean let's be real. Dunnstral and Firebringer are clowns. Scummy clowns sure. But Cabd isn't that, and I expect more from him at this point.

the clown has way more posts than you and way more detail into them than you.

Keep up the ate and attacks tho.

In post 2218, ActionDan wrote:

Firebringer wrote:

In post 2207, ActionDan wrote:I mean let's be real. Dunnstral and Firebringer are clowns. Scummy clowns sure. But Cabd isn't that, and I expect more from him at this point.

the clown has way more posts than you and way more detail into them than you.

Keep up the ate and attacks tho.

I will because it's true.

Your level of detail hasn't evolved from "X person is scum/town" or a reads list of the same at various points of the game along with a much healthier smattering of non-game revenant posts. As far as I remember the only time you've gone into detail of any kind was when I asked you about your reads.

In post 957, ActionDan wrote: I've been less than impressed by the back and forth between MariaR and Dunnstral as well as their "engagement" with others, which is both minimal and superficial. I am highly skeptical of Dunn's 824 because the first two sentences contradict each other, and to a lesser extent the last two parts do too, but more so I fail to see how someone about tied for most posts in the game was not invested in the game and only after this new found zeal is able to produce a reads list like 863 with little to say for it. For MariaR's part post 795 is a terrible reason to turn around a read, since as RC said, that's Non-alignment indicative and it's obviously so. It may be a stronger apology/overture/SOAP opera bullshit post but it's still quite in line with the rest.

In post 1563, ActionDan wrote:

In post 1499, Dunnstral wrote:Why would you be voting me?

In addition to the reasons listed in 957 I think your most recent GBT scum read comes out of no where and is manufactured especially with the reliance of trying to pair A2 and giga together, while the spam you continually litter the thread with takes on a malicious quality to me.

In post 1657, ActionDan wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral

It may as well be confirmation bias at this point, but Key's posts tiptoeing around the read of the pair by alternatively calling it town and not wanting to actually commit to a read in the same post is indicative that there's scum in the pair. There's nothing I feel more sure about. Happy to eat my own cake if I'm wrong

In post 1901, ActionDan wrote:

In post 1880, Priscila wrote:

In post 1871, ActionDan wrote:Here's an idea Priscila. Lynch Dunnstral first like every dead townie has wanted to do, then have fun lynching fire bringer, and fight it out with A2/Maxous and their pairings if the game isn't over then.

Yeah this kind of post is never going to make me want to town read you or work with you.

In post 1884, Dunnstral wrote:ActionDan you're pretty heavily tunneled on me my man

I don't know why me and mariar both voting a2 is cause for concern. Actually, have you taken a look at a2 at all? Our votes have merit

I'll address you both here.

Yeah I looked at A2, it was one of the first things I posted about. It's a town slot. Me and Hebichan strongly agree on that. There's plenty of evidence to support it.

Your votes are unexplained and thoughtless. Priscila has phenomenally bad judgement despite being a hell of a lot more articulate than you or MariaR and has shown barely any interest in "working with" anyone who have better. That's obvious enough.

In post 1920, ActionDan wrote:

In post 1905, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1901, ActionDan wrote:There's plenty of evidence to support it.

Care to share? There's a good chance you're dead tonight if town

This post contains it

Also A2's original case about Key is indeed a case coming from town.

In post 2108, ActionDan wrote:

In post 2055, Firebringer wrote: It was probably former but I don't think anyone wanted to lynch you?
Can you point to where this was?

In post 2073, Assemblerotws wrote: The only people who suspected you in the last 10 pages of pre-dance were Priscilla, Giga (flipped town), RC (flipped town), and keyen (flipped scum). Absolutely nobody voiced any suspicion of you D1 that I could see.
Unlike you, I believe that if you're town the second theory is more likely to be correct. Max had a strong suspicion of Shirou, who I was starting to suspect anyway.

Basically yes, the voices of dissent started right about here. Overall there weren't that many, but they were by far the loudest at the time. Most are gone yes (including for this purpose the replaced out MBC), but I still think that they were there, without that much pushback aside from A2 simply wanting Key gone most (and well, Hebi picking me in the end of course) shows that I am wagon material.

It could also be that Shiro is scum and scum wanted to kill off a shiro voter. Ofc, that same logic would apply to firebringer voters too, which would make Cabd/A2 an obvious target (caveat being their alignments both being town)

In post 2064, Firebringer wrote:

In post 2060, ActionDan wrote:

In post 2056, Firebringer wrote:I townread Priscilla then. Didn't have a read on vecna but thought i would eventually. Maxous I townread but I can't remember what for. And you I thought were Town but I think it was just consensus everyone was saying you were Town, I disliked quite a few of your posts but I wrote it off as style differences.

I was more concerned with Giga dancing with someone at that point than the gentlemen, Giga was being extremely scummy imo and trying to hard too do Town things.

I also thought key would be useless Town like in last game with him where I think he protected scum all game.

If so, why in 572 did you suggest Key to go if at the least you didn't have a read on Vecna and thought key was town (if useless)? If you town read priscila why did you question both RC and Key about it in 498 and 534? If you town read priscila and scum read giga, why did you state that Priscila/giga was a good pair in 1270?

Dan I am going to be honest here, I think ur just asking me stupid questions to look like your doing something.

Cause I swear I answered everyone of these questions.
But I'll answer anyways:

I thought key would be inactive and easily pocketed by any scum pair so leaving him seemed like best to me for pragmatic reasons which is why even though I tr him over vecna I thought vecna was more useful to keep.

I asked rc for his reasons tr Priscilla cause i was too and didn't have anything to put it to words beyond attitude.

And given my impression of priscilla I was thinking her paired with Giga would give least amount of chance of Giga pocketing her partner since i thought she was getting a partner anyways might as well be someone who blindly townread them.

I wouldn't say they are "stupid questions" when they elucidate your thought process. Speaking of:

I don't think it's a particularly town thought process to immediately recommend someone you townread (useless, easily pocketed or otherwise) to die off over a person you don't have a read on besides thinking you'd be certain to get one later. If I were in that situation I would actually try and bother to try and read Vecna at that point before posting "Key?" in that instance, since at the very least that would be a disservice to Key if you thought he was town. Especially since when conversing with RC there he also suggested Cabd as his #2 for explicitly being scummy and you immediately voiced your disapproval by claiming he was town. Sort of would make people get the wrong idea about why you'd post key in that instance.

I don't buy that you asked RC about his townread of Priscila to give words to your feeling of Priscila. The exchange reads more as a desire to judge RC by his answer. Only a little bit later, you asked Key the same question, which granted, it deserved to be asked of him then imo, but I highly doubt you would have done so for the same reason.

That last part is understandable

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Dunnstral I have the capability to not death tunnel with a one-track mind, the thing you accused me of doing last phase. I haven't stopped thinking you're scum. I spent most of the game doing so, and I hope players in the game don't forget that easily. I haven't been going around saying you're town, have I?