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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:12 am

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In post 2196, Chumba wrote:
In post 2190, Not Known 15 wrote:(however, I blame you the most).
and rightfully so. I don't know how many times I can apologize but i'll keep doing it.

I just wish others would admit their own mistakes instead of making me the sole scapegoat.
You aren’t in a position to make this claim

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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:12 am

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In post 2199, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2195, Mulch wrote:
In post 2194, Tchill13 wrote:I don't see why you wouldn't mass claim the day before lylo every time.
There are some games where a day 1 massclaim are good lol


Some games...I think post lylo is good
I would imagine this would involve setup speculation and I'm not too knowledgeable about that.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:14 am

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In post 2197, Tchill13 wrote:You're not the sole scapegoat.

How do you expect others to be able to play the game when you're demanding every situation you are in be handled immediately?
2 day phases went by where nobody followed me and what happened?

you mislynched 2 townies.

You also made this statement
In post 1231, Tchill13 wrote:Who wants to join me in never lynching chumba or havo so when they both flip town after we caught all the scum we can all laugh together? Anyone?

Profii is scum. Brass is scum with him.

Nero you're on the right track imo.
were brass and profli scum?

no.

If we lynched one of me and havo day 1, the game would have gone completely different.

You had bad reads. everyone did.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:16 am

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LMAO


STOP


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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:18 am

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Yeah I never said I was always right.

Literally my favorite part of the game is where chumba said "eth0s and tchill thought Nero was scum" right before he voted Nero lol.

Chumba played the entire game looking to place the blame on others after havo flipped VT.

Chumba knew he messed up after that and couldn't start pointing fingers fast enough.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:19 am

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If you demand every argument you're involved in be settled immediately don't be surprised when you're the one lynched every time.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:22 am

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In post 2204, Tchill13 wrote:Literally my favorite part of the game is where chumba said "eth0s and tchill thought Nero was scum" right before he voted Nero lol.
why is that funny? it's true

you both were suspicious of him and you both died. I had no idea there were mason crumbs linking you together, i assumed it was because of your reads.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 2204, Tchill13 wrote:Chumba played the entire game looking to place the blame on others after havo flipped VT.
to be fair, everyone played like shit this game except ethos and joey.

I just played the worst.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 2205, Tchill13 wrote:If you demand every argument you're involved in be settled immediately don't be surprised when you're the one lynched every time.
I wish more people would just lynch me instead of ignoring me. maybe that way i'd actually learn my lesson.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:28 am

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All right.

Sorry again for losing the game. This was hopefully a humbling experience that I hope to never recreate again.
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:31 am

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In post 2209, Chumba wrote:All right.

Sorry again for losing the game. This was hopefully a humbling experience that I hope to never recreate again.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:51 am

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My advice to Chumba would be don’t 100% anything unless there is some kind of confirmation. I would say with hindsight it’s easy to see some players you had a 100% read on weren’t that role or whatever so if you put “the other” possibility in your world view then as the game progresses you might think to yourself so and so is 90% scum but as time progresses, another player has come in and gone 80% and your first read might be at 60% - you can still say that you think those 2 players are likely to be scum but you are acknowledging the game often throws up crazy twists


Also, I know I’m referring to your other account, but that’s twice I’ve played with you and you’ve spotted a lie that I just couldn’t understand so try to be really clear or if the lie is subtle, maybe try not to give it so much credit as 100%


I don’t profess to be amazing at this game but from my perspective that’s the things I think would have a significant impact on your game
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:59 am

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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:05 am

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I will lock this thread if this pissing contest continues. Mulch, stop interacting with Chumba.
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:25 am

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In post 2213, Nexus wrote:I will lock this thread if this pissing contest continues. Mulch, stop interacting with Chumba.
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:24 am

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@Chick I was just joking.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:32 am

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Let's not play blame games or be negative. If you think someone underperformed, let's focus on giving constructive feedback about how they can improve :]

Chumba, I think you can try to improve your play by being less narrow minded and more open to different perspectives :]

If you find yourself in tunnel vision, take a step back. Try to see if their actions could make sense from any other points of view. Think about, if X actually was town, could their actions make any sense? Would someone else be likely scum?

In terms of Havo, if people are tuning out, repeating the same points over and over again probably won't convince people either. Either rephrase your case or wait until Havo does something else in thread that is worth commenting on.

In terms of Nero, just because someone doesn't agree with you or play the way you like doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. You need to consider whether what they did comes from a town-motivated or scum-motivated mindset.

Also, as the game goes on, there is more information in the thread. Tchill and eth0s's read of Nero was very early in the game. Whereas by LYLO, I think Nero Cain was one of the more proactive players and that should have contributed to townreading him.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:35 am

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thanx for the game insanity!

i'm a fan of more straightforward setups like this one
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:48 am

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In post 2217, schadd_ wrote:i'm a fan of more straightforward setups like this one
This was literally one of the shortest review threads we've ever had--literally the only change from the original setup was changing the roleblocker to two-shot; we finished the review in less than a page.
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 2216, insanity018 wrote:You need to consider whether what they did comes from a town-motivated or scum-motivated mindset.
That’s the same thing people cram down my throat every game. The funny thing is I do that. I did that.
In post 2216, insanity018 wrote:I think Nero Cain was one of the more proactive players and that should have contributed to townreading him.
But activity isn’t AI. Everyone knows that. Look at schad and chick? Nero was more active as we got closer to mylo/lylo and I didn’t feel he was bringing much to the table.

The biggest thing for me with Nero was how he acted when I voted him in lylo. He didn’t seem nervous. At the very least when a player knows another townie just voted him, he should try hard to change their mind. He should be scared. I just didn’t see it.

Nero is hard to read apparently. I’m sorry.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:06 pm

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I'm actually a super easy read and I'm surprised that not many ppl have picked up on it but that could just be due to this site being alot of bad players. Not to toot my own horn or anything but I was like super spot on in LYLO. I also had the flu most of d1 so that's why I wasn't super active early on.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 2215, Nero Cain wrote:
@Chick I was just joking.
Fite me.


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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:11 pm

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It’s kind of easy to be spot on when from your POV scum is only 2 people.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:29 pm

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I would say I'm blacklisting chumba but we all know he will just fire up some more alts soon anyways
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:29 pm

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But I will probably just policy lynch him d1 from here on out
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