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In post 2199, ruru wrote:Hmm

Cop:
- No result if cop gets shot by either faction

JK:
- Telegraphs a non-vig target reducing docpool
- Fake guilty on scum's target
- Fake guilty if scum choose to no-shoot
- Could hit the vig

I think I like cop better

That's a good way of putting it.

Okay, just need HWS's potentially dying reads then.

I assume you're not L-1ing because you're afraid I'm gonna do the thing I said I would do and lolhammer?

In post 2196, Mathdino wrote:you're currently voting pintu so you're doing a great job continuing to deliberate aren't you

there are 6 players other than you willing to vote pintu

i don't understand why you never seem to consider what lynches are possible/realistic

I have a variety of unconstructive answers to this. But I will refrain from them because they are unconstructive.

a) There are achievable lynches other than Pintu. HitAlt, for example.
b) Balance of probability still suggests Pintu is scum, imo, so yes my vote is still there. That is not a permanent state and due consideration of alternatives is never a waste.
c) There is value in committing opinions to paper in the case that we are collectively wrong. I am voting Pintu because I found ruru's case convincing and because of the discussion he and I had at daystart. I believe he has been engaging in an extended active lurk and is ergo likely scum. If the_worst has an 'ah ha' for why he's scum, I'd like to hear it. Maybe you have decided TW is clearly town, but I'm not completely sold on the notion yet and would like that data written in case we're wrong about Pintu.

So, yeah, what I am doing right now is deliberation.

i'm copping TW btw and you guys should do the same

blackstar would also be a solid copcheck since he's not getting NK'd

reasonable chance I'm NK'd if Pintu flips green btw but I'm fine with being cop cleared.

Well it's clear that y'all felt to Mathdino's trap, so I'll give you a present: VOTE: Pinturicchio

Please, quicklynch the dinosaur tomorrow and don't let him go on with this bullshit. There will be no cop clear tomorrow, it's pretty obvious he/she will die, so just lynch Dino, for the love of god.

I guess there are some edge cases where jk is good

Like if jk+scum both target cop it's really nice because cop can just claim
And I guess jk+scum on vig is also marginally better than cop+scum on vig?

But that's really specific compared to the ones I listed

I'm not L1ing because like anyone could quickhammer, including you, probably without being confirmed scum

And it seems like poor form to let the day end without hws regardless of how I personally feel about it

In post 2206, ruru wrote:I'm not L1ing because like anyone could quickhammer, including you, probably without being confirmed scum

And it seems like poor form to let the day end without hws regardless of how I personally feel about it

I am at L-1 right now, and sure, if you want to wait for HWS that's fine, but I think the game is already solved

> be a dinosaur
> hardtownread pintu for a towntell
> get told by pintu that wasn't a towntell
> canvas 7 votes for pintu
> get told i'm scum
> claim the hammervote in order to take maximum responsibility for lynch
> reserve the hammer in order to keep pintu around longer
> pintu purposefully shortens his own life

holy scumclaim batman

also it should be noted that ruru is no longer hardclear if pintu flips scum
and should probably be considered a light to decent townread in that event

I'm not shorting my life, YOU shorted my life with your bullshit, don't try to make this look like it's not your responsability.

Huh

If pin's trying to shorten the day because he's scum then how is me not wanting him quicklynched scummy

In post 2208, Mathdino wrote:> claim the hammervote in order to take maximum responsibility for lynch

all i've done all week is take personal responsibility for this lynch

and you're sitting here shouting "BOO IT'S MATHDINO'S FAULT"

like do you think i don't know that

i'm literally not even on your wagon and i've been stalling your lynch for a while now

i don't know what town value you see in this brinksmanship

Oh you're talking about his cop ability nvm

In post 2210, ruru wrote:Huh

If pin's trying to shorten the day because he's scum then how is me not wanting him quicklynched scummy

oh sorry i wasn't talking about recent events

i just mean that i outsourced my townread on you to pintu

and i'd have to actually personally evaluate your alignment/associations if he flips scum because there's the slight possibility he meta-defended his scumpartner

if you're asking how this behaviour makes sense with you as scum together:
- no daytalk
- distancing maneuver
- pintu wants to cut off discussion and scumclaim while you want towncred for drawing out the day

you're not my top suspect on his redflip (that would be TW), i'm just saying you lose townpoints because the main reason i'm townreading you is nullified

I'm town reading ruru for reasons unrelated to a Pintu scumflip.

Why are you townreading him?

Who?

sorry I mixed names up, thought you were talking about townreading Pintu and a ruru scumflip

No. Do you want to know why I'm town reading ruru?

Nah that's fine

Can we all agree tw goes first in massclaim tomorrow regardless of flips

/in

Also a rolecop flip on not-him makes him significantly more likely to be scum I think

Huh?

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