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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:44 am
by Auro
Pagetop

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:47 am
by northsidegal
In post 2197, Eddie Cane wrote:is there a point to that NSG?
it's pretty much for myself for later, i have a lot of random tabs open and it's getting to be a pain hunting through all of them.

so, no, i guess.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:52 am
by Auro
In post 2199, Eddie Cane wrote:I do want you to do a ranked reads thing, though
Let me first see if I recall all 11 players.
Auro, Eddie, Smart, NSG, Alch, iDanyBoi, Luna, OkaPoka, PenguinPower, Comical, RCEnigma

Ok, good. RCE was the least memorable, so was Comical.

{Comical, PenguinPower}
{Luna, Eddie, Smart}
--null--
{OkaPoka, RCE, iDanyBoi}
{NSG, Alch}

Gonna pull a Something_Smart here and call my readslist terrible, lot of the reasoning there is meh. Wanna talk about any? :P

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:54 am
by Eddie Cane
It feels like RCE and Comical haven't posted this whole day phase. Why is Luna and Smart townie?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:01 am
by Auro
Luna because of her weird play while being wagoned without any chainsaw/defense behavior from elsewhere, even when people continued to scumread for it. Her easy sheeping is also townie. Resonated with her readslist where she called Penguin a "meanie" (I don't think he is tho :P)

Smart because you're above null, and I'm tying his alignment to yours. Picking a serious offensive line (if not a push, simply phrases like "stop throwing garbage") isn't something I'd expect Scumthing_Smart to do. His general activity seems to be more than I remember him to have carried as scum. I probably carry some bias towards townreading him though.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:03 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2204, Auro wrote:Smart because you're above null, and I'm tying his alignment to yours.
What now?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:03 am
by Auro
If Eddie's >rand town to me, and I read you as aligned with Eddie, you're >rand town.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:04 am
by Something_Smart
Why do you read me as aligned with Eddie?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:05 am
by Auro
Wait, that's incorrect. I read you as aligned in the case he's town. If he's scum, then there's conflict between you theater-ing (which you totes would do as scum) and the current reasoning.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:06 am
by Auro
If you're asking about the theater/distance thing, CoM.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:14 am
by schadd_
replacing rce

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:16 am
by Auro
:(

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:17 am
by Auro
Schadd, your font sizes for slot 9 are incorrect. :P

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:23 am
by schadd_
oups

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:25 am
by Alchemist21
In post 2173, northsidegal wrote:now i remember why i only play games on alts.
How many games have you played with me on your alts? Not asking you to out any, just a number. You said I'm always hard for you to read but I only recall playing with Town you once in that Coalition game.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:27 am
by northsidegal
honestly? i have no idea, and it wouldn't be a short process to go count. there's also the fact that i'm probably also considering games that i've only read where i was trying to figure out your alignment but wasn't actually in the game.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:30 am
by Alchemist21
Ok that's fine.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:36 am
by northsidegal
i think either comical and RCE are both town or they're both scum, based off of what i expect from schadd's design. i don't think it's likely that one is town and the other is scum, from what i know so far.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:39 am
by Auro
Can you explain how Conical!Gunsmith and RCE!Goon is unlikely from Schadd's design style?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:46 am
by northsidegal
my statement made the prior assumption that both players were actually gunsmiths of some form--town or scum--which i consider the most likely scenario (although i don't really believe comical's modifier for a second).

if rce is actually a goon then that situation is possible, but based on how the claims went down i guess i would consider that somewhat unlikely?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:50 am
by Alchemist21
In post 2219, northsidegal wrote:my statement made the prior assumption that both players were actually gunsmiths of some form--town or scum--which i consider the most likely scenario (although i don't really believe comical's modifier for a second).

if rce is actually a goon then that situation is possible, but based on how the claims went down i guess i would consider that somewhat unlikely?
How likely do you consider it that Comical is scum Gunsmith and RCE is Town Gunsmith?

(Important note: Comical is Flavor Leaf/Boonskiies.)

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:51 am
by northsidegal
like, let's run through the scenario of goon RCE and comical telling the truth. RCE gets just "a guilty" claimed on him by comical, "misinterprets" (depending on if you believe it or not) it as being some kind of tracker guilty and claims even-night, saying that it's impossible because he hasn't visited anyone yet. then, when comical claims that he has a gun, he again "misunderstands", thinking that gunsmiths don't get positives on themselves (if you believe it or not) and considers the scenario between them to be direct counterclaims.

i think this is actually something of a complicated scenario that warrants a great deal of thought, but one thing that already comes to mind is this: would goon RCE, thinking that someone claimed a tracker guilty on him and assuming that he didn't actually visit anyone (i.e. perform the NK) claim even-night rather than just deny the claim?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:53 am
by northsidegal
In post 2220, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2219, northsidegal wrote:my statement made the prior assumption that both players were actually gunsmiths of some form--town or scum--which i consider the most likely scenario (although i don't really believe comical's modifier for a second).

if rce is actually a goon then that situation is possible, but based on how the claims went down i guess i would consider that somewhat unlikely?
How likely do you consider it that Comical is scum Gunsmith and RCE is Town Gunsmith?

(Important note: Comical is Flavor Leaf/Boonskiies.)
i know, that's partly why i don't trust 6-shot for a second. and like i said, based purely off of schadd's previous designs and what i know of his design philosophy, i think that alternate alignments of the same role is less likely than similar alignments sharing a role, town or scum.

i also think that there are other, more game-related things that make scum comical and town RCE make less sense. granted, boon's mind works in mysterious ways (especially when it comes to roles), but if he's scum here with a real gunsmith result on RCE, why out it?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:01 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2218, Auro wrote:Can you explain how Conical!Gunsmith and RCE!Goon is unlikely from Schadd's design style?
I was going to ask the opposite question. What makes comical!rolecop and RCE!gunsmith unlikely?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:02 am
by Something_Smart
Oh, Alch already asked it about scum gunsmith. But scum rolecop seems more likely than that.