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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:27 am
by SirCakez
I see all the masons going first although I agree the claim seems trust worthy

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:27 am
by Cabd
In post 2196, fferyllt wrote:I thought there might be something reflexive in your ability.
Compulsive, not reflexive, but in result somewhat similar.

I just REALLY didn't want you guys trying to calibrate on me night one.

You remember how Ari failed to handle the loverizer hood? My first choice did the exact opposite with our miller hood.

They belong on the same tier you put me in... wherever that ends up settling.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:28 am
by Cabd
I mean, a shot at me is a shot where the masonry lives another day.

I'm cool with that.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:33 am
by Cabd
So... I am genuinely sorry but today is the high effort day.

You have a shelf life of "one game day" with almost 100% certainty.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:35 am
by fferyllt
In post 2190, DiamondSentinel wrote:Here are the posts I was referring to when I said I don't like them.
In post 1239, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1237, SirCakez wrote:Something_Smart is feeling a lot more absent than usual.
Am I though
In post 1244, Something_Smart wrote:I think this is within normal range for how absent I am.
I will always hate self-meta posting. I also dislike that sort of coy dodging of the question for the first post.
In post 1419, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1417, Bell wrote:Do you have any reads yet?
no

there is way too much discussion that is orthogonal to anything I want to talk about.
In post 1417, Bell wrote:Do you thread avoid as scum?
Sometimes.
Dodging questions (although admittedly the last part isn't a huge deal to me. Dodging questions about meta aren't AI)
In post 1428, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1423, Bell wrote:What would you like to talk about?
I mean, if I knew, I'd be talking about it :/

The meta discussions are alienating. People seem to be by and large going with the flow and not really doing anything that stands out. And like I'm sure there IS readable content in there but I don't have the skill nor the patience to extract it.
Not a big deal, but I'm just going down Cakez's list here.
In post 1493, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1479, SirCakez wrote:"I'm town and don't want to effort"
FTFY
I hate this. Snarky and unhelpful posts are a sign of scum in a lot of situations I've found.
In post 1494, Something_Smart wrote:Specifically, I don't want to effort when I know it won't accomplish anything worthwhile.
This. Just... no. Absolutely not. Even if what's going on around you is complete bunk and not remotely helpful, you can still contribute. This is a sign of a scum that is looking for any excuse they have to avoid the game.
In post 1520, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1496, SirCakez wrote:How can you assume this
Because when I force reads they come out hot garbage. Speaking from experience.
See above. Even if your reads are trash, you make them so that you have
some
footing. (and also so that you can eventually get better at the game). If you're not going to do anything yourself, why would you bother playing?

But this is someone who's played as long as I have, so I doubt the sincerity of this decently.
In post 1527, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1525, fferyllt wrote:Are you thinking to kinda sit out day 1?
Ideally no. I just need to find something to engage with.

If there's anything you want to hear my opinion on, I'll definitely try to see what I can come up with (though I can't guarantee it won't be "that's NAI").
This was posted 1500 posts in. There was more than enough to engage with.
He engaged pretty damn hard after my dethy post.

This is not an elim that will happen today. Probably ever.

Anyone else you want to float?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:36 am
by fferyllt
In post 2203, Cabd wrote:So... I am genuinely sorry but today is the high effort day.

You have a shelf life of "one game day" with almost 100% certainty.
I know. I crazy-posted in the neighborhood n1 because I didn't expect to be alive today. That was part of the calculus.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:38 am
by fferyllt
List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:40 am
by fferyllt
pooky kinda belongs there, but I'm not sure I can make a convincing argument for it.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:40 am
by Cabd
Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:40 am
by fferyllt
I also really liked Alisae's content that I got to read this morning!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:41 am
by SirCakez
ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:44 am
by midwaybear
I don't see much behind SS yet, but I also did not see much to Taylor yesterday either. Your reasons seem to be somewhat the same.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:44 am
by Cabd
In post 2206, fferyllt wrote:List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?
If these three are town, then...


Remaining unknowns: 7 Mis-elims left until miselim=lose assuming three remaining scum:

Day 2: 16 alive, 3 mafia vs 13 town <--You are here
Day 3: 14 alive, 3 mafia vs 11 town
Day 4, 12 alive, 3 mafia vs 9 town
Day 5, 10 alive, 3 mafia vs 7 town
Day 6, 8 alive, 3 mafia vs 5 town ---<miselim and lose.


So we have four "misburns" to spend out of an elim pool of 7, that contains 3 mafia.

That's a xenogears level solve...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:44 am
by fferyllt
In post 2208, Cabd wrote:Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.
I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:45 am
by Cabd
In post 2213, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2208, Cabd wrote:Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.
I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.
I didn't grab every game, i went and grabbed a few scum games and then stopped. Anything 2016 and earlier wasn't as relevant to me.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:46 am
by Cabd
Oh I think I misread your wall quote of DS to be rebuking me on my DS vote and not rebuking DS on the S_S vote

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:47 am
by Cabd
Oh yeah metal gear solid... that was on page two of the Egosearch, i didn't bother.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:48 am
by fferyllt
In post 2210, SirCakez wrote:ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?
I'm townreading s_s by my own crude meta and my in-this-game analysis. Cabd says he has a 100% meta tell he'll burn if I make him, but I'm not going to make him. I'm pretty sure there's a built-in 5+ count nay-vote there.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:49 am
by midwaybear
Gamma should be town as well unless what you noticed yesterday with the catchup was really bad.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:50 am
by DiamondSentinel
In post 2215, Cabd wrote:Oh I think I misread your wall quote of DS to be rebuking me on my DS vote and not rebuking DS on the S_S vote
If you note, I didn’t vote S_S. I was very particular about it. I don’t like their posting from the ones Cakez sent, but it’s not strong enough to warrant a major push. I’m still on the Nahdia train

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:54 am
by fferyllt
In post 2210, SirCakez wrote:ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?
That's what Cabd asked for. We're gonna see if a Xenogears style gamesolve works here, given how many confirmed town we have.

Cabd do you remember whose ISO would have the list in that game?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:57 am
by fferyllt
In post 2214, Cabd wrote:
In post 2213, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2208, Cabd wrote:Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.
I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.
I didn't grab every game, i went and grabbed a few scum games and then stopped. Anything 2016 and earlier wasn't as relevant to me.
One momentary flash of paranoia. You know who you're playing with here. They're going to happen, but I'll mostly right myself. I'm likely dead before you get your 5 page essay.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:58 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2211, midwaybear wrote:I don't see much behind SS yet, but I also did not see much to Taylor yesterday either.
Well, I didn't scumslip. (That you know of... :o)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:58 am
by Cabd
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p5321309

I believe the solve is around here-ish.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:12 am
by fferyllt
In post 2212, Cabd wrote:
In post 2206, fferyllt wrote:List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?
If these three are town, then...


Remaining unknowns: 7 Mis-elims left until miselim=lose assuming three remaining scum:

Day 2: 16 alive, 3 mafia vs 13 town <--You are here
Day 3: 14 alive, 3 mafia vs 11 town
Day 4, 12 alive, 3 mafia vs 9 town
Day 5, 10 alive, 3 mafia vs 7 town
Day 6, 8 alive, 3 mafia vs 5 town ---<miselim and lose.


So we have four "misburns" to spend out of an elim pool of 7, that contains 3 mafia.

That's a xenogears level solve...
{Tammy, Jake}
{s_s, petapan, sircakez, midwaybear}
{alisae,......pooky}

Do you agree with all of them? They don't have to all be in the solve, I guess.