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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:30 pm
by CheekyTeeky
...fml

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:30 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2198, CheekyTeeky wrote:LQ how can DGB be scum if you're town with the loyal modifier?
Because.. I've said this like 3? 4? times now that I DON'T have the Loyal modifier.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:31 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2134, CheekyTeeky wrote:If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee
Not following how green mega flip implicates me?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:32 pm
by CheekyTeeky
So they lied about being loyal so that we would townread it's role, then they confessed they had another shot which would clear another townie effectively giving us 2 soft conf town? It's beyond a stretch.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:33 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2197, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2152, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1848, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1839, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1833, Dwlee99 wrote:Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.
I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?
The mod can't tell you if your action succeeded, only if it was received.

I'm not "casting doubt" I'm getting clarification because the way you described it is not how it works. If you knew your action succeeded it goes to a hard guilty instead of a soft guilty (cause the action could have been roleblocked)
Still think this is dodgy.
Or, DGB clearly was not acting like it knew how its role worked.
DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:33 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2199, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2194, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2187, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2186, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb
DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?
How can DGB be scum?
By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.
unless DGB flips scum Disloyal Neighborizer I'm not entirely inclined to clear you off a DGB scumflip

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:34 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 2202, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2134, CheekyTeeky wrote:If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee
Not following how green mega flip implicates me?
It doesn't directly but if we flip him you're the most suss double green Wagoner imo.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:35 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2205, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2199, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2194, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2187, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2186, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb
DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?
How can DGB be scum?
By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.
unless DGB flips scum Disloyal Neighborizer I'm not entirely inclined to clear you off a DGB scumflip
No, because they can do the same thing without the Loyal modifier. Else, you are entering into some pretty bad tin foil theory.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:36 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:36 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Re: DGB claim: It resolves itself at this point.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:36 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:37 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2208, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.
And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:38 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2206, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2202, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2134, CheekyTeeky wrote:If red go Kitty if green go Dwlee
Not following how green mega flip implicates me?
It doesn't directly but if we flip him you're the most suss double green Wagoner imo.
But no actually

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:38 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2211, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2208, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.
And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.
Okay but aren't you voting it? I'm confused.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:38 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death
That shade though.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:39 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2213, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2211, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2208, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.
And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.
Okay but aren't you voting it? I'm confused.
Yeah, oops.

Resume as normal. Going back to my previous vote:

VOTE: Arc

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:40 pm
by Dwlee99
Arc seems townie for her right now which maybe is scummy for her lol

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:41 pm
by Shrek
i hate to say it but arc is at least being proactive even if her reads are dumb and hypocritical. can we flip mega so we dont go through this same back and forth bickering that gets us nowhere? idk why theres been so much resistance against his wagon for two phases now

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:43 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2217, Shrek wrote:i hate to say it but arc is at least being proactive even if her reads are dumb and hypocritical. can we flip mega so we dont go through this same back and forth bickering that gets us nowhere? idk why theres been so much resistance against his wagon for two phases now
I don't hate flipping Mega, but I'd like them to claim first.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:45 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:46 pm
by Shrek
In post 2219, LicketyQuickety wrote:Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma
explain your reasoning pls

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:47 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2220, Shrek wrote:
In post 2219, LicketyQuickety wrote:Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma
explain your reasoning pls
Look in my ISO for my reasons.

First thing was them asking questions to inflate their post count. Secondly that both me and Norweigh wanted the wagons to be T3 and Gamma, and T3 flipped Town and Norweigh died.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:48 pm
by Gamma Emerald
if I wanted to kill people who wanted to wagon me norway would not be the first pick

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:49 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 2222, Gamma Emerald wrote:if I wanted to kill people who wanted to wagon me norway would not be the first pick
Why was Norweigh killed then?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:50 pm
by Gamma Emerald
probably for being obvtown