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[Dwlee99]

I feel like if you're traitor here you could be bussing STD and then forcing the vote between STD and I because you think there is a chance a townie votes me thinking I'm associated with you

[MathBlade]

UNVOTE:
???

C’mon now.

Just because you don’t like the inevitable outcome of fake voting you should know votes are locked in elo

[Dwlee99]

See 2200 math

[Dwlee99]

That's why I'm skeeved

[MathBlade]

I feel like if you're traitor here you could be bussing STD and then forcing the vote between STD and I because you think there is a chance a townie votes me thinking I'm associated with you

Then we take the W of a scum elim either way and sort tomorrow

[MathBlade]

If anything a scum bus is good for us as then we get a scum either way.

[Jacket]

Maybe presumptive, but feel like ZenMan is trying to get voted.

[Dwlee99]

But here traitor!zen gets a vote between STD and I rather than him and STD

[TheZenMan]

???
What is the problem? Do you not agree that scum could potentielly flash hammer the first town that has one townie vote?

[Dwlee99]

Yeah that's how voting just works

[Dwlee99]

Maybe presumptive, but feel like ZenMan is trying to get voted.

STD + Zen + ??

[MathBlade]

Maybe presumptive, but feel like ZenMan is trying to get voted.

Maybe but if so we get a scum so yay?

Pedit: That’s why we fake voted and the scummiest player was hammered you.

That’s why you had 24 hours to drop a vote.

[Jacket]

Maybe but if so we get a scum so yay?

Yeah.

[TheZenMan]

VOTE: Save the Dragons
It was just a thought about being avoiding a flash miselim but whatever.

[TheZenMan]

Pretty sure that scum would just drop 3 votes on me as soon as even one townie voted me.

[Jacket]

Realistically, from your POV, if you and STD are t/t, then any team that includes 2 of Math/T3/me could have hammered and ended the game.

[HawaiianPizza]

have to go now, but zen u had me as town at SoD if im not mistaken

mind explaining ur read change?

Yeah I townread you because you were pretty open about being away for so long and suprised people didn't push you, which I townread. However recently have had some posts of yours that made me think you are scum. For example this post below:

Well at least one of you and pizza is scum pushing zen right now but probably not both

And so I think STD makes sense as scum here

and i do not like this post, "there has to be a scum in the people pushing zen"
and the whole associations thing you're doing
perhaps i'm biased, but like
i'm struggling to be convinced you're town with all this

This put up some red flags in my mind. I think it's fairly reasonable to assume that if there are 3 people pushing me one of them is scum, at the very least is probably. Jumping on Dwele for saying that was just needlessly aggressive and defensive.

Also, you say you have a list of votes explained but you never posted it. You said the same thing before. Seems just shady to keep alluding to it but never posting it.

and i explained later that the way dwlee brought it up seemed like shade.

no one so far seemed to care about the list. it was meant for three, after all. you can just ask me to post it instead of calling it "shady".

Spoiler:

redtea: RVS

House: treatment of osetr seemed a bit suspicious to me at the time

fua: T3 asked me to, but i was not feeling it. yeah, they sheeped a vote on george, not the best look, but i wouldn't find it that scummy at that point in the game. also everyone was starting to SR them for tone and shit, which made me dislike the vote even more.

dwlee: i would lean osetr slightly w with some doubt, because he only posted during the dumpster fire phase. so nothing completely solid to read him on. dwlee's posts weren't quite it either, so yeah.

three: you know already. it was probably my main D1 vote.

T3: nothing more than a joke vote.

back to three

almost50: my votes at the start of the day tend to be on people i'm not completely sure on, not necessarily a scumread. i'd come back to look into his posts in depth when i actually had the time/motivation (we literally had a week). i didn't trust the PR claims to be all town and thought there'd likely be a wolf in the neighbours, so i tossed a vote that way. hadn't seen much of zenman by then, but i tend to stay away from lowposters.

the vote wasn't really made with intent to eliminate.

then shit happened. a50 was becoming top wagon as i was reading back on D1 and found him fairly towny. wasn't sure enough to defend it yet (again, i was not ready for a quickhammer), and i did explain my switch on zenman, since a50 seemed to have claimed bp first (but the reverse was true in the hood? i hadn't read about it). at any rate, i was starting to like a50 and didn't want him to have such a big wagon/get hammered. i moved to zen, and hoped to clear this up the next day.

a50 on D3: lol

woo, now you know stuff.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Save the Dragons
It was just a thought about being avoiding a flash miselim but whatever.

Dwlee back on STD.

[HawaiianPizza]

i don't feel like playing rn tbh

also StD should post. stuff.

[TheZenMan]

Realistically, from your POV, if you and STD are t/t, then any team that includes 2 of Math/T3/me could have hammered and ended the game.

True, but only if STD is town. Maybe the fact that he wasn't flashammered speaks to him being scum?

[MathBlade]

How many of your are newbies? Lemme just ask that. Because this page feels like very newbie queue ish.

[HawaiianPizza]

i am not a newbie, but i do suck at the game so there's that ig

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: STD
It only makes sense for scum zen to unvote there if STD is scum anyway

[HawaiianPizza]

not hammering

[Jacket]

Posting to confirm, or something.