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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:19 am
by Gamma Emerald
I’m trying to think of ways to bend this event to town’s will and I’m drawing dead
In the first event there was a pretty narrow scope of what the chair could do. This one all we really know is there’s going to be a duel with a revolver, and that feels incredibly open to interpretation, though I don’t feel like I have the imagination to figure out what
I think the best bet is using Law of Conservation of Detail. The flavor says it’s a six-shooter, and that “the audience should recognize this game”. I think the most intuitive conclusion to what game you’d play with a six-shooter revolver is Russian Roulette. The question is how that’s integrated as a gameplay element and to what extent we can make scum have to give up ground through it. I don’t feel particularly equipped to answer those, so I’ll post this and open the floor.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:20 am
by unwnd
I was in huge disagreement with Gamma's elimination and I think off the cuff that was egged on with bad intentions. Gamma was able to clear himself pretty well but I don't understand why the people who pushed him into that position isn't getting any sort of flak. Unless that's happening right now? I remember Ydra being an advocator of Gamma but dunno if she's explained the why behind things.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:21 am
by ulyana
we should

try to choose two scums

because we know one of the chosen will die

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:21 am
by ulyana
like that's how we bend it to town's will

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:22 am
by unwnd
In post 1716, Morning Tweet wrote:
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"Throne of Execution"

Decision 1.FINAL
Gamma Emerald
[9!]:
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Cephrir, PookyTheMagicalBear, Saber, ulyana, Dunnstral, Ydrasse, Galron, Taly, SirCakez


Galron [5]:
skitter30, Dwlee99, Infinity 324, petapan, Toogeloo

Dunnstral [1]:
Gamma Emerald


Not Voting [1]:
Gypyx


With 16 contestants remaining, it took 9 votes to place a player in the chair.
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Alright so I also saw that Ceph/Pooks were town

Really doubt that Gamma wagon is completely pure. Peta I know your big read is Ydra but have you factored in Gamma's wagon as well? I really believe that's a great place to look

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:24 am
by skitter30
hi unwnd!!! unfortunately i think ur slot is scum :(

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:25 am
by skitter30
In post 2099, Toogeloo wrote:Mountainous games are the worst. Trust issues suck.
what does this mean, and who are you talking abt

who do u wnat to put in the duel?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:26 am
by skitter30
In post 2102, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2067, Infinity 324 wrote:pooky also had a really good tmi-based scumread on dunn in silent star 3
What did I tmi?

I already explained that people misinterpreted what I wrote, and that it was a response to somebody else
also u
ur just popping in to relitigate things from a billion years ago
do u have any reads for rn wrt how we should handle today?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:27 am
by unwnd
Ceph/Me/Myself (lol)

Leaves Saber/Ulyana/Dunn/Ydra/Taly/Cakez

Not going to sit here and say that those 5 should definitively contain a lot of scum, but I would bet two. If my points seem obvious it's because this is the angle I'm choosing to get myself into the game. My readrate is Ydra is laughably bad so maybe she'll see my replacement and see me as a free pocket. I remember not liking Saber tonally? Dunn I think I can figure out if given enough time. Cakez let me ISO him. I am also going to be playing at my full potential and just lumbering around. My passion for writing stuff that nobody will read has been stirred in me once again!

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:27 am
by unwnd
In post 2205, skitter30 wrote:hi unwnd!!! unfortunately i think ur slot is scum :(
I'm very green actually and I will prove the naysayers wrong

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:28 am
by skitter30
In post 2132, Taly wrote:
In post 2118, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2106, Saber wrote:Most vocal stagehand or suspicions from Pooky I can see are on Gamma, Dunnstral, and petapan. He also supported a S-S theory for the two leading wagons.
just gonna point out that even though i townread gamma at this point we technically we haven't really seen anything that disproves s/s

if they were actually svs wagons picking your partner and then sabotaging the flip is a great way to make you look unaligned in that situation
While I agree with this, a
Gamma/Galron
duel feels both like something scum would predict and a rehash from the chair vote. I'd like to see new contestants in the hot seat.
yeah i'm not saying we should force that to be today's duel or anything but just noting that i don't think anything happened to contravene the svs theory

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:28 am
by skitter30
if u are town i am eager to see you do so

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:29 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2202, ulyana wrote:we should

try to choose two scums

because we know one of the chosen will die
In post 2203, ulyana wrote:like that's how we bend it to town's will
This is fair
But like, what sort of wolfy people should we put into the duel? Should we put in two people who seem similar or two that are different levels of wolfy (lurkscum, deepwolf, powerwolf are the main categories I can come up with)?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:29 am
by Dunnstral
Is relitigate some kind of buzzword that doesn't mean anything now?

My reads for today is what Ulyana just said in 2202, which I kind of hinted that that is where I was leaning, but wondering why other people thought otherwise

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:30 am
by petapan
In post 2204, unwnd wrote:Really doubt that Gamma wagon is completely pure. Peta I know your big read is Ydra but have you factored in Gamma's wagon as well? I really believe that's a great place to look
you realize i think (most) wagon purity arguments are nonsense yeah

i think you can maybe try to pick apart who was voting with a legitimate scumread versus doing so out of convenience but even that's complicated by scum probably knowing what would happen

i haven't had an opportunity to reread anyone yet i have just wanted to kill the people who are not being town

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:30 am
by unwnd
I'm reading Cakez' ISO now and about 10-15 posts in I think he's scum

What are the rest of you doing lol

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:31 am
by Ydrasse
i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:31 am
by Dunnstral
In post 2215, unwnd wrote:I'm reading Cakez' ISO now and about 10-15 posts in I think he's scum

What are the rest of you doing lol
I also think he is scum

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:31 am
by petapan
i think i'll be able to figure out unwnd's alignment pretty easily so

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:31 am
by skitter30
In post 2164, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 2162, petapan wrote:
In post 2153, Ydrasse wrote:what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this
i would tell you i explicitly do not care, because the fact that you can play like this as town does not mean that playing like this makes you town

and i have no reason to not want to kill you over who actually care about solving the game
okay next question

do you think ppl are ~actively scummier~ than me?

absence of towntelling =/= scumming and ive only seen "slightly scummy"
what's the purpose of this line of questioning @ydra

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:32 am
by Ydrasse
In post 2219, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2164, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 2162, petapan wrote:
In post 2153, Ydrasse wrote:what if i told you the last game i played as town was more or less this
i would tell you i explicitly do not care, because the fact that you can play like this as town does not mean that playing like this makes you town

and i have no reason to not want to kill you over who actually care about solving the game
okay next question

do you think ppl are ~actively scummier~ than me?

absence of towntelling =/= scumming and ive only seen "slightly scummy"
what's the purpose of this line of questioning @ydra
trying 2 gauge peta's headspace that's about it

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:32 am
by petapan
In post 2217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2215, unwnd wrote:I'm reading Cakez' ISO now and about 10-15 posts in I think he's scum

What are the rest of you doing lol
I also think he is scum
is this still the earlygame vote

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:33 am
by unwnd
In post 2214, petapan wrote:
In post 2204, unwnd wrote:Really doubt that Gamma wagon is completely pure. Peta I know your big read is Ydra but have you factored in Gamma's wagon as well? I really believe that's a great place to look
you realize i think (most) wagon purity arguments are nonsense yeah

i think you can maybe try to pick apart who was voting with a legitimate scumread versus doing so out of convenience but even that's complicated by scum probably knowing what would happen

i haven't had an opportunity to reread anyone yet i have just wanted to kill the people who are not being town
Yeah, I get it. It's obvious that the wagon is probably not pure, but talking about it creates a focal point of discussion. Then you can get an allotted amount of distinctiveness based on what everyone says about it. I don't know re: who was legitimately scumreading him because it would require backreading, but I'll do it if it's required of me

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
Actually now that I think about it lurkscum does feel like the “right” choice
So I’d maybe say Dunnstral/Toog/Ydrasse are the best options from an objective POV
unwnd I need to see how he plays but I wouldn’t have advocated putting Galron in under this logic
Btw this isn’t “vote player a in, votes reset, and then we vote player b in”. Once a person gets hammered the second-place wagon gets hammered with them. So beware that probably.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:33 am
by Dunnstral
In post 2217, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2215, unwnd wrote:I'm reading Cakez' ISO now and about 10-15 posts in I think he's scum

What are the rest of you doing lol
I also think he is scum
To be clear, I voted Gamma to E-1 when that vote was pretty much locked in. Gamma asked to be eliminated within an hour, and two people declared intent right after my vote.

Then we spent an extra 3 days actually doing the thing