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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:49 pm
by MathBlade
Let me phrase this another way:

If you were told half the scum were on a wagon before the midway point without a guilty, would you think the wagon was on scum or town?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:49 pm
by MariaR
In post 2195, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2194, MariaR wrote:
In post 2193, MathBlade wrote:Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?
Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?
Assume I am “ego posting” instead of my belief I am trying to stop town mistakes

Then scum have no reason to bus because the wagon won’t get to 8. They could sheep me wherever I am.

Yet scum have inexplicably chosen to bus here in your world.

You are literally arguing Toog claims invest and says he will die over Frog.

So if Frog is scum why would Toog claim to defend them like that as scum?

Your reads and play look like a conglomeration of common scumreads versus thought out ones.
Actions speak a lot louder than words. You can claim you'll do X but a lot of time people don't follow through with it. Why do scum bus? Why not? People bus for no reason this site. You're not giving me a reason on why they wouldn't bus here to get cred. They won't expect it to go over or get cred? Like, do you see the issue here.

There's always a reason to bus and no reason isn't a valid argument.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:51 pm
by MariaR
In post 2198, MathBlade wrote:Let me phrase this another way:

If you were told half the scum were on a wagon before the midway point without a guilty, would you think the wagon was on scum or town?
Obviously, this is factor based. If there is no large counter wagon and it's one main wagon? Scum.
If there's a counter wagon in place and it's some super important PR? Town.

But this is all based on a blank world with no factors in place.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:53 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2199, MariaR wrote:
In post 2195, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2194, MariaR wrote:
In post 2193, MathBlade wrote:Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?
Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?
Assume I am “ego posting” instead of my belief I am trying to stop town mistakes

Then scum have no reason to bus because the wagon won’t get to 8. They could sheep me wherever I am.

Yet scum have inexplicably chosen to bus here in your world.

You are literally arguing Toog claims invest and says he will die over Frog.

So if Frog is scum why would Toog claim to defend them like that as scum?

Your reads and play look like a conglomeration of common scumreads versus thought out ones.
Actions speak a lot louder than words. You can claim you'll do X but a lot of time people don't follow through with it. Why do scum bus? Why not? People bus for no reason this site. You're not giving me a reason on why they wouldn't bus here to get cred. They won't expect it to go over or get cred? Like, do you see the issue here.

There's always a reason to bus and no reason isn't a valid argument.
I literally just did.

It’d be infinitely easier to sheep the “wrong” loud Townie.

They’re not.

There’s your reason. They could literally follow on any other wagon or me.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:53 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2200, MariaR wrote:
In post 2198, MathBlade wrote:Let me phrase this another way:

If you were told half the scum were on a wagon before the midway point without a guilty, would you think the wagon was on scum or town?
Obviously, this is factor based. If there is no large counter wagon and it's one main wagon? Scum.
If there's a counter wagon in place and it's some super important PR? Town.

But this is all based on a blank world with no factors in place.
And Pooky is a super important PR.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:55 pm
by MariaR
In post 2201, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2199, MariaR wrote:
In post 2195, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2194, MariaR wrote:
In post 2193, MathBlade wrote:Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?
Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?
Assume I am “ego posting” instead of my belief I am trying to stop town mistakes

Then scum have no reason to bus because the wagon won’t get to 8. They could sheep me wherever I am.

Yet scum have inexplicably chosen to bus here in your world.

You are literally arguing Toog claims invest and says he will die over Frog.

So if Frog is scum why would Toog claim to defend them like that as scum?

Your reads and play look like a conglomeration of common scumreads versus thought out ones.
Actions speak a lot louder than words. You can claim you'll do X but a lot of time people don't follow through with it. Why do scum bus? Why not? People bus for no reason this site. You're not giving me a reason on why they wouldn't bus here to get cred. They won't expect it to go over or get cred? Like, do you see the issue here.

There's always a reason to bus and no reason isn't a valid argument.
I literally just did.

It’d be infinitely easier to sheep the “wrong” loud Townie.

They’re not.

There’s your reason. They could literally follow on any other wagon or me.
You mean. . .vote me like people have been trying to do the past few day phases?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:58 pm
by MariaR
Follower is not very high on the important PR tier list *shrug*

If you'd rather vote Frog I'm not gonna say no.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:58 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2203, MariaR wrote:
In post 2201, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2199, MariaR wrote:
In post 2195, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2194, MariaR wrote:
In post 2193, MathBlade wrote:Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?
Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?
Assume I am “ego posting” instead of my belief I am trying to stop town mistakes

Then scum have no reason to bus because the wagon won’t get to 8. They could sheep me wherever I am.

Yet scum have inexplicably chosen to bus here in your world.

You are literally arguing Toog claims invest and says he will die over Frog.

So if Frog is scum why would Toog claim to defend them like that as scum?

Your reads and play look like a conglomeration of common scumreads versus thought out ones.
Actions speak a lot louder than words. You can claim you'll do X but a lot of time people don't follow through with it. Why do scum bus? Why not? People bus for no reason this site. You're not giving me a reason on why they wouldn't bus here to get cred. They won't expect it to go over or get cred? Like, do you see the issue here.

There's always a reason to bus and no reason isn't a valid argument.
I literally just did.

It’d be infinitely easier to sheep the “wrong” loud Townie.

They’re not.

There’s your reason. They could literally follow on any other wagon or me.
You mean. . .vote me like people have been trying to do the past few day phases?
You’re more to avoid a no elim.

Convince me you’re town and I will just say fuck it we are at too much of an en pass and stop trying to cooperate at all because we are too far divergent and just try to stop town elims.

Because right now I don’t think we get scum so I will aim for a VT flip as it’s the least damaging.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:58 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2204, MariaR wrote:Follower is not very high on the important PR tier list *shrug*

If you'd rather vote Frog I'm not gonna say no.
Already am.

But for some reason no one is cooperating there

VOTE: Frog

Putting it back to be sure

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:59 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2204, MariaR wrote:Follower is not very high on the important PR tier list *shrug*

If you'd rather vote Frog I'm not gonna say no.
It is though.

With Pooky etc we get 1/4 of the game solved :(

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:00 pm
by MathBlade
PRs importance are based on context.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:01 pm
by MariaR
I still don't believe everyone is telling the truth but hey we've taken up 2 pages so I'ma go to bed

VOTE: Frog

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:03 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2154, MariaR wrote:And then Frog while we're at it because it would take two seconds for them to see the world view they're coming up with is incorrect because I'm hard pushing Pooky but Frog is either town who never thinks they're wrong and needs to go over or just a wolf and I don't think they're a bad player so wolf it is.

Toogeloo can go
Someone find me the wolves in furtiveglance/Save/MT
pedit: I'd rather we vote out scum considering the fact you're lost in the claims since scum can easily fake there claims and if you just look at this game as a game of Mafia Pooky's posts are awful.
In post 2209, MariaR wrote:I still don't believe everyone is telling the truth but hey we've taken up 2 pages so I'ma go to bed

VOTE: Frog
In post 2079, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2078, MathBlade wrote:I think Frogster’s team is excluded but I don’t see anything that excludes Maria herself
My team changed because I thought BCG was masons with marci. I haven't updated it yet.
You missed 2079 Maria. I was/am rethinking my solve. I think you're playing very survival-oriented and I normally think that's scummy but I'm starting to believe it's NAI for you. I thought your Pooky and MathBlade analysis showed you are applying critical thinking about the game. You're analysis on my slot is lacking a little bit though, you missed that I was reconsidering my PoE in 2079 and you also are FoSing me because you believe I'm underthinking the game. I think you should consider that I'm Town who is overthinking the game and that's why I missed signs that your slot is Town.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:50 pm
by Not_Mafia
I am vig, what should I do?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:10 am
by Enchant
Interesting, i am also vig. What i should do?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:19 am
by Not_Mafia
Let's shoot eachother

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:21 am
by Enchant
Good idea.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:04 am
by furtiveglance
VOTE: Toogeloo

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:09 am
by Enchant
Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)
Spoiler: Acts
N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance - Didn't Claim
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker
Spoiler: Acts:
N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie
Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts
N1: Not_Mafia



Did i miss anything?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:11 am
by furtiveglance
In post 2216, Enchant wrote:Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)
Spoiler: Acts
N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance - Didn't Claim
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker
Spoiler: Acts:
N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie
Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts
N1: Not_Mafia



Did i miss anything?
Put me down as a gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative vanilla town.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:18 am
by Enchant
In post 2216, Enchant wrote:Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)
Spoiler: Acts
N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance -
gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative
Vanilla Townie
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker
Spoiler: Acts:
N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie
Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts
N1: Not_Mafia



Did i miss anything?

Done.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:51 am
by MalcolmTucker
I am VT.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:57 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 1769, Frogsterking wrote:I feel like Town!pooky had other options of how to play this situation. This whole interaction just feels like a big phishing attempt. I disagree that Titus comment looks like an inno soft, I've used that expression before because 95% can imply p < 0.05 which is one benchmark for statistical significance.
Reading back but I think Pooky was more just pissed off at the scumcase on them and decided to nip that in the bud should the wagon get any bigger. Perhaps premature but I've claimed as town before at a sooner point than I maybe should have because I thought I was obvious town and it was the best way to just clear myself without any follow-up suspicion clogging the thread when we could be finding scum instead.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:43 am
by marcistar
lets just vote out malcolm guys

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:43 am
by Titus
I claimed invest but not what I was. Pooky's action is true.