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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:52 am
by AngryPidgeon
@GG: I'm not going to argue mafia theory with you. But yes, newer scum players are more likely to either fencesit on or ignore their buddies.
@Wisdom: Re disliking the game in general. Amrun said that before she went out, but I'm really not feeling it from Elyse in context.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:57 am
by Wisdom
In post 2225, AngryPidgeon wrote:But yes, newer scum players are more likely to either fencesit on or ignore their buddies.
You're forgetting there's daytalk. Those theories do not apply when scum can coach each other.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:58 am
by Wisdom
In post 2225, AngryPidgeon wrote:@Wisdom: Re disliking the game in general. Amrun said that before she went out, but I'm really not feeling it from Elyse in context.
I don't think Elyse ever showed any signs of liking the game. Her disliking is natural if you ask me.
The same goes for calling you annoying. It's a stretch to say that she's trying to copy it off someone else.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2226, Wisdom wrote: In post 2225, AngryPidgeon wrote:But yes, newer scum players are more likely to either fencesit on or ignore their buddies.
You're forgetting there's daytalk. Those theories do not apply when scum can coach each other.
So you think elyse/grim are scum/scum? And I really think thats a stretch either way to assume that all of the pieces of that puzzle necessarily came together.
Whats off about her calling me annoying is...all of it. I don't know where the hell that came from. She starts of by casting doubt on me then coasts it into an AP = annoying read. This all being in response to me voting her.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 am
by AngryPidgeon
No comment on me implying you are likely scum with Elyse because of yesterday?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:10 am
by Wisdom
Nah I think they're both town. I'm just saying what you're saying does not apply here - even newbscum (which, again, Grim is not), can ask for help if they're not sure what to do. It's not the same as in a game where scum can't talk to each other until night.
About the annoying part you may have a point now that I think about it, it's a little weird.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:16 am
by Wisdom
No because just thinking that I'm scum with anyone is silly. But if you insist on it, I'd sure like you to elaborate on that.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:21 am
by AngryPidgeon
Ok, Im not sure why you are bothering to argue against me then if you agree they aren't scum/scum.
It really doesnt take much imagination to see you/Enomis/Elyse given the votes yesterday.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:27 am
by Wisdom
Let's see..
I voted Amrun, switched to qwints, back to Amrun.
enomis voted nobody and generally did nothing.
Elyse voted qwints, then enomis if I recall.
And you see this scumteam in those votes because..?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:02 am
by Elyse
In post 2209, Wisdom wrote: In post 2205, Elyse wrote:He still could be scum but a lot of the reasons I'm scumreading him are his terrible switches on people which could be just because he's easily swayed by anyone and can't think for himself.
This sounds like you're talking about me rather than Grim. What switches did Grim do?
NS, Amrun, Coug, me.
In post 2212, enomis wrote:
Got this feeling too. That is what my gut says.
@qwints
: I am getting to it. The problem is, i can't seem to get a read on Elyse. She posts too little. Like me maybe? And i am currently too lazy to iso her.
@Elyse
: Why Qwint instead of Grim?
In post 2220, AngryPidgeon wrote:
If you want connection cases, I'm not going to cough something up.
Enomis is scum. I'm really starting to worry about Majify/Wisdom not being both town. Wisdom would make the most sense because of his behavior yesterday.
I strongly doubt Grim is scum with you considering hes buddying up to you which would be a pretty bold scum/scum play and not something I'd expect from a newer player in general.
I'm leaning town on Qwints. I just really am not feeling scum-Qwints casting doubt on me an simultaneously trying to get me to join his wagon of choice.
I'm really surprised you would ask me about connections to you as opposed to why I'm voting you at all in the first place (although maybe Im not surprised).
In post 2205, Elyse wrote:The bolded makes it look like you were manipulating people when you were talking about your RL stuff.
You think Im confessing to manipulating somebody in this game as a supporting argument for my post to Grim?
Thats a really huge stretch and you pointing to one thing even that I did and saying this refers to it is really scummy.
Good posting : P
Elyse is scum. Her talking about the game is just an attempt to link herself to Amrun's pre-death posting and fwiw I believe the Elyse is frustrated. It reads genuine but out of place and definitely not were her focus would be as town.
Also her calling me dumb/annoying looks like an attempt to mimic qwints doing the same to me and me calling him town for it. She first calls me scummy/scary but then ends up just reverting me to a dumb-read at the end and the flow reads fake.
I don't want to respond to this.
I'm not faking calling you annoying or not liking this game. These are the exact type of things that make me hate it actually. You've pissed me off this whole game and you need a communications course if you haven't seen that by now.
My wagon stinks and no one has given real reasons for voting me lol.
Wisdom is the only one making actual sense right now and if he's scum he deserves this win. Mollie is also pissing me the hell off because she had a townread on me and now she's just sheeping Majiffy. Same with Venmar.
I thought this playerlist would be good but it SUCKS.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:08 am
by Wisdom
So what do you think the scumteam is?
What do you think we should do after you flip?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:15 am
by Majiffy
I actually very much enjoy the composition of the Elyse wagon so far.
Now if we could just get Eno to hammer that'd be greeeeat.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:23 am
by Elyse
In post 2235, Wisdom wrote:So what do you think the scumteam is?
What do you think we should do after you flip?
Qwints/enomis/{Grim, Majiffy}
Have qwints challenge enomis or vice versa.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:25 am
by Wisdom
I'd prefer enomis-Majiffy tomorrow.
Did anything else happen in your QT with qwints?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:26 am
by Grimgroove
Agreed.
Hopefully also because qwints will have been lynched by then.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:29 am
by Wisdom
^Exactly.
The best way to go is lynch qwints and have enomis-Majiffy face off.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:31 am
by Elyse
That'd be ok with me. Um I'll paraphrase what happened after qwints replaced in. Not much at all.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:34 am
by Majiffy
I feel like that would result in a mislynch.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:35 am
by Grimgroove
Majiffy, what are your thoughts on qwints?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:35 am
by Elyse
qwints: Any key points you want me to reread? I know you're voting me but any help reading this huge game would be appreciated. I understand if you want to limit interaction.
He then said that Amrun and Grim were scummy. He wanted enomis lynched yesterday and then have Amrun and Grim face off, though he didn't think both were scum.
Then I said I agreed with lynching enomis, and expected Amrun to flip town. I said this would hopefully get Wisdom out of retard mode so he could see obvscum Grim.
He said he didn't like AP's hammer.
Asked what I thought of enomis' burst of activity.
I said I'm pretty sure he's scum.
P-edit: Majiffy, why are you voting me?
Mollie, why are you voting me?
Venmar, why are you voting me?
AP, why are you voting me?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:37 am
by Grimgroove
Yeah, Elyse is town.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:40 am
by Majiffy
Majorly improved the slot. Reading him as town.
Amongst other posts you can find easily accessible in my ISO.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:43 am
by enomis
Grim is town. Ap you reading?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:50 am
by Elyse
Linking to posts of my is not a case. I can't respond to anything if you don't say why they're scummy.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:50 am
by Elyse
*posts of mine