Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

[Sound of Silence]

Mutley replaced into a low-information slot and has continued to provide low information. He will continue to do that as long as he can get away with it.

I feel like I've re-explained the BRO case over and over again. Nobody has refuted it. Some people have even agreed that he doesn't look good. And now, you can compare the level of effort he's willing to put into catching up on 40 pages to the level of effort that Andy claims to be putting forth.

I could be making too much of personal tendencies here, but I know how painful it is to catch up on 30-40 pages as scum and how very easy it is to whirl though that many pages as town.

[zMuffinMan]

No, I know the reasons for your suspicion on both, and I completely agree with them (and have my own independent reasons for thinking both are likely scum, which I've already gone over).

It's just that neither of those lynches seems to have any traction at the moment.

If there was enough support for either of them, I'd jump on those wagons.

[Sound of Silence]

Neither of those lynches have any traction because people are being dumb.

[Saki]

I fucking hate this wagon.

Can we please lynch BRO? Or Mutley?

Saki's probtown but he's being utterly worthless and I'd vote him today just to save a vig the effort.

Lol
okay

policy lynch

not like you at all

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sound of Silence

[Sound of Silence]

I'm not pushing a policy lynch.

Bro, Mutley and mara all three are in our scum pile. And I vastly prefer to lynch from that pile rather than my null or town piles.

[Saki]

policy shot*
or whatever

killing off a prob-town player is obviously within your wincon

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

deadline is in ~2 days
here's how i want this to work
you all pile onto RM or me

more of you vote me
let me sit at L-1 for a bit
and then we discuss a couple things before I take my leave

okay

it better be good.

VOTE: andrius

I also expect you to continue to push your own lynch through in order to provide legitimacy to your words. I mean L1 after you deliver your grand reveal I want you to self vote. deal?

[Sound of Silence]

Mutley has posted absolutely nothing that has given me the slightest town vibe. Comparing this game to his MYLO game is really stark. He trolled in that game but was still very obviously town. Not so here.

[Sound of Silence]

If I was gonna push a policy lynch on you, I would've done so earlier, and I'm pretty sure it would've happened.

P-Edit: vigging an anti-town player helps toward town wincon!

[Sound of Silence]

policy shot*
or whatever

killing off a prob-town player is obviously within your wincon

stop being derp town and I won't worry so much about your being alive near LYLO.

[zMuffinMan]

@sos,

*shrug* Doesn't change anything. If there's not enough support, then there's not enough support. For the sake of argument, you can say my vote is on both mutley and BRO in spirit. You, as well. Then there's Ghostlin (who I believe has both as scum reads of some strength). Then maybe a couple others, and that's it.

@saki,

Please stop.

[Saki]

Shoot a townie off policy

and if I'm town I'll obviously never stop being anti-town

[Nachomamma8]

i'm going to fucking strangle andrius

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

can everyone just grow a pair for 5 minutes and call andy on his bluff otherwise you are treating him like retarded town when he isn't

[Sound of Silence]

Shoot a townie off policy

and if I'm town I'll obviously never stop being anti-town

You make your own case for being vigged, then.

[Nachomamma8]

if you're just lynching yourself because you're too lazy to catch up i'm gonna WRECK YOU
or if you're just lynching yourself because it will give good "information"

[zMuffinMan]

can everyone just grow a pair for 5 minutes and call andy on his bluff

While I'm not sure on the exact reasoning for his *plan*, I have two theories about why he wants people to take a firm stance on either him or RM, and I don't think it's a bluff.

[Andrius]

This is pretty bad.
And bad some more.
I stopped note-taking because it was just that bad etc.
If you want something from me let me know and I'll provide reads and responses but I won't wallresponse anymore as that just hurts me.

Spoiler: shittycatchu.doc

Satisfied with thezmon's response to my 1043.

Seriously what more do you want from the Rachlynch, jiffy?

also andy is such scum, I wonder how long he can keep up the unfounded rage piece going. I find it entertaining.

Not unfounded. Thanks for the misrep.
And I can do it all I want!

The trust fund hydra needs swift death.

GiF again posting nothing useful in 1084. Not sure why I'm not surprised.

Preeeeeettyyy sure Nacho is town.

I think.

He's town.

And from some older scum games.

I'm slightly intrigued.

Can we all please stop mentioning Xenoblade as some frame of reference for this game? What's important in -this- game is -this- game, not anything external to it.

You DO realize you're talknig to the most meta-obtuse bunch of players I know right?
You expect METADIVE Cabd, and ffery/mollie/mala who live and die by their meta to ignore meta?
for better or worse

But yeah not happening with them methinks.

Andrius should be lynched sometime not today, maybe tomorrow.

venmar
the fuck is this

Don't like skulldiggery's posting.
Vote on mastin is good.

Agree on the GiF arguments presented in 1130 by varsoon.

I didn't like the overreactions in your first wall

get used to it

I'm not following some of the conclusions you came to in your reads

clearly the reading level was far beneathe you :/

You should take this game less seriously <3.

cant man
alws srs bsns allatime

Deer Andi,

u r dum

Luv,
Jiffy

You don't think I don't know that?

The team I have is Nick, skull, Mala, with an end of TF/Rach/Andrius.

So you think the entire scum team (outside of Rach?) has said they think mastin is scum?

mastin would totally jerk off to this if it were true

aj still town

.............................................

Yeah, I think I'm best off just ignoring you until it's time to lynch you.

and when
o great one
would that time be?

Nacho's Andy read really worries me given what several of us know about Andy's scum play.

I'd repeat myself but since you clearly don't listen to me I'll save my time.

he is posturing for affect

explain this please because im not sure ive heard of that before

Perpetual LyLo - more fluffy, more ragey.

so i am confused
is it the rage in general that makes the scummy
or is it why the rage is happening that makes it scummy

its like the goddamn breadcrumb argument
are you calling breadcrumbing scummy or the reasons behind it scummy

anywho

also i like how me having more developed reads is scummy
lol

its like people are used to my incompetence

...how the fuck is mastin confirmed town

adding mastin to my ignore list

hahahahahaha why
id do it if i could ignore posts ingame

I'd still rather a Rach lynch because she is indefinitely useless in this game.

pew pew lets do it

this makes me so hot and bothered for an andy lynch it is not even funny

i have this affect on women apparently

I'm trying to get Andy lynched

He has not posted in like a day

i am so eager to see what he says when i havent posted in a week
this is going to be great

There is another reason for Andy being scum hello we should listen to Notty hes a conf town PR duh...

doesn't mean his reads are correct

seriously
at this point
i just want to be done
let me do my talk and fucking end me
i get to not play
you get to do whatever the fuck you want
which will clearly be going

mala: WELL GEEZ GAISE I THINK WE WERE WRONG
mollie: NO WE CANT BE WRONG ON ANDY META IS SO OP HES OBV JANITOR'D
nacho: andyyyyyyy ;_;

seriously the amount of fucks i give is approaching zero and the number of players in this game i actually want to spend time with at the moment is one so

anywho back to this fucking hellhole

Nacho's Andy read really worries me given what several of us know about Andy's scum play.

his opening is obviously different from Xenoblade and MyLo.
i'm not even more than normally confident Andy is town (haven't put my time in yet), but the cases I've skimmed so far aren't looking for the right things. The insult thing is a great aspect of his meta but you might be misinterpreting some of his insults.

The Scummer who has a Ph.D in Reading Andy has just called me town and all of you out for doing it wrong.
How much more will it take?

What do you think of the mollie/ffery slots? I was looking at then and I just found their interactions odd and I know mollie suspected me last game but calling my wall fluff is just baaaad.

they are both town, my love.

you're probably right
but I have PTS so they look scum to me regardless of what you say

Although if we flip andyscum today I'll be shooting for the cheesy goodness that is nacho.

you wont
so
get off my nachomamma

this makes me so hot and bothered...

...for an andy lynch

.

eat your heart out jiffy

AND ANDRIUS, NOT SHOWING UP TO THE IMPORTANT MAFIA DATE OF PLAYING THIS GAME DOES NOT INSTILL CONFIDENCE IN ME ABOUT YOUR TOWN STATUS.

YO BUDDY IVE BEEN BUSY IN EDMONTON FOR A WEEK
I AM HERE NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME
READING NOW
DOING READS AND BULLSHIT LATER
GONNA BE FUN FUN FUN FUN WHY IS IT NOT TONIGHT YET

I would personally like to see RM expand more on all her reads

good luck
i also get that vibe that none of her reads are original at all but
dont care enough to dive into that atm

@nacho

i disagree with all nachoscum reads
because you are town
and i can trust that with anything

don't worry baby they're all town (except not completely RACH but shhhh)
and some of the cool guys are town too

but bby how do i talk to them they all want me dead
how do i talk to pretty girls when they want me to die alone in a cave somewhere

but srs ok maybe im wrong on the women (noT RM srs shes scum guys)
and yeah the men are cool except the venmar forgetting me makes me sad

Vote: Skullduggery

TAKE MY HAND NACHOLOVE
...
ADVENTURE!

if anyone could post a non-meta based case against him

one such case does not exist

just because he's conftown doesn't mean
1) he has a brain
2) has correct reads
3) has reads that are in any way, shape, or form, better than anyone else's


venmar it is page 61
and you are breaking my heart

I have the impression that most of the emotional content of his posts is a sort of over the top role play

the fuck
is this
google translate does not recognize "layman's terms" as a language

two of the best meta-based scumhunters on the site are agreeing Andy is playing to his scum meta.

and THE BEST metareader on me is telling you that I am town
and you are ignoring him
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS ACCEPTABLE NACHO
SERIOUSLY
THEY WANT TO LYNCH ME FOR META
CALLING THEMSELVES TWO OF THE BEST METAREADERS ONSITE
AND IGNORING THE BEST METAREADS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE GIVEN ON ME

how is that town
how nacho
hown ;_;
because all i see is

fferymollie: "andy scum for AAA because we are the best at finding scum with AAA"
nacho: "i am actually the best reader of andy and because of AAA he is town"
fferymollie: "no you are wrong even though we acknowledge your experience with andy is far greater than our own"

how is that ok

seriously
why am i still playing this game
why
why the fuck did you not just lynch me while i was at edmeet

This is the basis of his paranoia and makes sense.

still has not been explained to me

It's something that seems pretty much useless to lie about except to shuffle weak suspicion onto someone who he knows is never ever ever getting lynched.

Also SIGN YOUR GODDAMN POSTS is a pretty easy thing to hide misdirection behind. Mollie tried that repeatedly in the MYLO game and I think Andy also threw that into his wall.

I would cite my already presented rage against the hydra but since on one cared the first time
no one will care now

ignoring mastin for my own health
and muffin's response pretty much sums up my thoughts

at this point im just skimming the thread as i cant be bothered to care
bbl

left off pg.70

FTL's read compilation post looks pretty damn awesome to me.
Desperado is still town.

Syr's being all town and stuff. Cabd gets a free ride unless my town read on Syr goes sour. Until day 3, anyway.

no bad free rides are bad

and I really think her getting through to D2 will be where we can set the bar for her. Her D2 plays will inform us a lot more than her D1 plays

This is a horrible idea and lets bad players slide by without actually contributing. Like Saki's USELESSASTOWNMETA. Can't change things without... change.

I agree that Trust Fund's play is questionable. I'm holding that it's anti-town and quite possibly scum motivated, but other people seem a bit hesitant to agree.

I agree to a point.

Also, I dunno man. If you are town then some of your reads are just horrible this time.

I'm willing to admit that my reads may be wrong. But not all of them.
So must you.

I don't guess this is such a great time to work through some of what made your reads look awful to me, but there's a convo between nacho and me about some of it. If you iso him later it shouldn't be too hard to find most of it.

hahahahaha

my reads are my reads
and im willing to let nacho handle the women because the more I stare at them the less sense things make and PTS is definitely happening

So, Nacho reading you as town means I should pull my head out of my butt and do the same, I guess?

Yes. Simple as that.

What part of Nacho reading GiF/me as town in this game is less compelling than him reading you as town?

Because we're in different tiers.

I used meta arguments to catch Rach in Xenoblade...

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF RACH?

I miss good times with

you

, andy.

I didn't think you were interested in good times cos fosed me out the gate and seem only interested in forming a bromance pack. if you change your mind let me know.

Uh. This just reads as SUPERMESSEDUP.
Goodtimes can always happen, but you seem to think that me focusing you = NEVERGOODTIMES.

hi

lynch me now i no longer want to be in this game

Wait

Saki are you subbing in

Oh my god yes

This game just got infinitely more spammy

seriously kill me with fire

I reread our drunken convo and don't feel like I was talking to scum. If GiF has a different impression tomorrow or whenever he's back, we'll hash it out somehow.

you weren't
but its too late

Andrius, your AtE and how much it looks like it's worked makes me pretty upset.

uh
thats not ate
thats be being drunk
so
uh
yeah

UNVOTE:

andy as much as i thoroughly enjoyed drunk you, can we chat when you are sober? just pull over on your way to the airport or something, yeah?

you have 1d 17h
how can i help?

I am not the one who is playing with someone's heart here!

:/

you get 1 pass from me with this aTe. if you turn out to be scum you will probably have to deal with my paranoia forever.

Still not ATE.
Will not flip scum.

deadline is in ~2 days
here's how i want this to work
you all pile onto RM or me

more of you vote me
let me sit at L-1 for a bit
and then we discuss a couple things before I take my leave

okay

it better be good.

VOTE: andrius

I also expect you to continue to push your own lynch through in order to provide legitimacy to your words. I mean L1 after you deliver your grand reveal I want you to self vote. deal?

I'm saving the hammer for someone special.
I'll elaborate on who when I get there.

i'm going to fucking strangle andrius

;_;
I won't let you down.

[Andrius]

TOWN
AJ The Epic - solid standard play that marks him well.
BROseidon
Desperado
Ghostlin
Nachomamma8
Saki - regrettably town b/c of thezmon
zMuffinman

LEANINGTOWN
FasterThanLight - Really like varsoon's work, MS is a bit iffy but w/e town b/c varsoon.
mac - Sparse posting, not a ton of reads but doesn't scumread on me yet.
TiphaineDeath

LEANINGSCUM
nickthename
Venmar - seriously bro, stand for reads and fucking don't move.

SCUM
mastin
RachMarie
mutleyddmc/skullduggery
TrustFund

NACHO, I LEAVE IT ALL TO YOU
BeautyandtheBeast
Malakittens
SoundofSilence

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

can everyone just grow a pair for 5 minutes and call andy on his bluff

While I'm not sure on the exact reasoning for his *plan*, I have two theories about why he wants people to take a firm stance on either him or RM, and I don't think it's a bluff.

if you don't think it is a bluff then help him

[Andrius]

if you're just lynching yourself because you're too lazy to catch up i'm gonna WRECK YOU
or if you're just lynching yourself because it will give good "information"

NEVER NACHO I WOULD NEVER

[Nachomamma8]

can everyone just grow a pair for 5 minutes and call andy on his bluff otherwise you are treating him like retarded town when he isn't

mollie do you think i am scum this game?
vote me.

if you don't GET THE FUCK OFF OF ANDRIUS

[Andrius]

[7] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj The Epic, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath, Ghostlin)
[6] Andrius (Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light, notscience, Sound of Silence, BeautyandtheBeast)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, Mutleyddmc)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Venmar)
[1] SoundofSilence (Saki)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

[Andrius]

[7] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj The Epic, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath, Ghostlin)
[7] Andrius (Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light, notscience, Sound of Silence, BeautyandtheBeast)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, Mutleyddmc)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Venmar)
[1] SoundofSilence (Saki)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch.