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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:51 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
but i want a massclaim before that happens

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:52 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Murder of Crows wrote:Ok, ffery and I agreed its time to claim and get final reads in the thread.

We are Steve Berg, Vanilla Town. Our flavor is about being an extra in what must be Dr. Horrible's singalong. Thoughts in a bit.

Here's your claim, eyestott. What do you think about it?

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:59 pm
by eyestott
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
eyestott wrote:I see your point, but I think the role PM would be pretty awkwardly worded:

Or:

These are your inventions. You have no idea how they work.

But then there arises a concern, because of this:
If an invention will have a protown effect when it affects a scum, it will have an anti-town effect if it is given to a scum. Eg: say you have a kill, but you dont know whether it is a JOAT style kill or a Inventor style kill, in that you dont know whether it will kill the target or give a target a kill.
If you kill a scum, thats good. If you give a kill to a scum, thats bad.
If you kill a town, thats bad. If you give a kill to a town, thats better.

If you arent told which way it works, then you dont know whether to use it on a scumread or townread.
Boon gave the Lightning rod to Anatole because he thought it would
make him the lightning rod for the night
, not that Anatole would get to choose.
Boon gave the kill to Medea because he wanted to see how he would react. This heavily implies knowledge that it would give a 1-shot kill to Medea, not kill him. If Boon had any doubt about whether it would kill Medea or give him a 1-shot kill, I really think boon wouldve asked Bulba.
Its not the contradiction thats the main problem, its the evolution of thought. Boon said he wasnt allowed to know about his inventions, but did a 180 in how his action works.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:02 pm
by eyestott
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
Murder of Crows wrote:Ok, ffery and I agreed its time to claim and get final reads in the thread.

We are Steve Berg, Vanilla Town. Our flavor is about being an extra in what must be Dr. Horrible's singalong. Thoughts in a bit.

Here's your claim, eyestott. What do you think about it?

I have no reason not to trust it.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:07 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:I do too!
It's just unfair to Skrew to say too many things about it when I'm a full state away from the apartment.

And me! Especially considering it's my townread

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:38 pm
by Egg
F16's point is actually a good one

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:44 pm
by eyestott
Egg wrote:F16's point is actually a good one

Care to actually contribute and say why?
Also, why should we believe that your role won't give us any info, even though you aren't VT?

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:57 pm
by Egg
Arc seemed legitimately upset. That usually isn't scum on scum.

I know my role and I know that it helps scum more than town for me to claim it.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:51 pm
by eyestott
So youre thoroughly against a massclaim?

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:43 pm
by Murder of Crows
The fuck? AA9 want upset at gi. She was upset at multiple people, including an IC. Why the flying fuck do people think gi caused her to replace. And it's fucking GREYICE of all people who surely is way less likely to give a shit than other people about flaming a buddy. So I must be going insane here cause how the fuck ate multiple people not seeing that.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:56 pm
by eyestott
Murder of Crows wrote:The fuck? AA9 want upset at gi. She was upset at multiple people, including an IC. Why the flying fuck do people think gi caused her to replace. And it's fucking GREYICE of all people who surely is way less likely to give a shit than other people about flaming a buddy. So I must be going insane here cause how the fuck ate multiple people not seeing that.

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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:04 pm
by Murder of Crows
Sup guys. You posting here?

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:05 pm
by eyestott
Why is day 3 generally quiet?

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:11 pm
by Murder of Crows
It's just Christmas. Everyone's busy. I saw the Jesus hydra on and wanted to make sure they weren't just posting in a scum pt, but given the flip that thought was dumb lol.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:15 pm
by eyestott
No, I mean, why are D3s quiet, in general?

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:58 am
by Egg
I'll have to re read that replace out

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:51 am
by serrapaladin
I wouldn't say AA9's replace clears Grey, but I actually think it looks worse for anti.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:57 am
by Boonskiies
Eh, I wasn't aware exactly what it would do, Medea. I kind of thought I was on my way out last night, so might as well give one of my harder to read people something. I did think there was a possibility that I would kill you, also, but I wasn't sure exactly what it would do.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:04 pm
by Murder of Crows
Boonskiies wrote:Eh, I wasn't aware exactly what it would do, Medea. I kind of thought I was on my way out last night, so might as well give one of my harder to read people something. I did think there was a possibility that I would kill you, also, but I wasn't sure exactly what it would do.

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for FUCKS sake.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:05 pm
by Murder of Crows
Can we policy lynch boon today? PLEASE? I really really really want to.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:10 pm
by serrapaladin
Right, I really want to complete the massclaim, discuss boon/egg, and then look at Medea/Crows/anti.

If Egg won't claim, I think Egg needs votes as long as he's holding up progress.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:24 pm
by Egg
Really? What if I was like PGO or something? I'm not, but still. The person who already knows the role kinda knows best.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:26 pm
by eyestott
Boonskiies wrote:Eh, I wasn't aware exactly what it would do, Medea. I kind of thought I was on my way out last night, so might as well give one of my harder to read people something. I did think there was a possibility that I would kill you, also, but I wasn't sure exactly what it would do.






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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:17 pm
by serrapaladin
Egg wrote:Really? What if I was like PGO or something? I'm not, but still. The person who already knows the role kinda knows best.

If sharing your role would hurt town as much as you seem to think, you should have thought about that ages ago and gone for a VT claim to begin with, or go for some sort of gambit to mislead scum, so as PGO you could have claimed something like beloved or ss.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:23 pm
by Egg
Nah. Wasn't worth gambiting. Just not helpful to claim.