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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:37 pm
by Magua
Vote Count 2.21
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Cabd (5): xRECKONERx, notscience, Cephrir, Iecerint, GreyICE
shos (2): T-Bone, Rhinox
T-Bone (2): shos, Wisdom
xRECKONERx (1): TierShift
Not Voting (1): Cabd
Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday May 3rd, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2015-05-03 18:00:00)
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| Cabd | - | 49 |
| Cephrir | - | 51 |
| GreyICE | - | 48 |
| Iecerint | - | 50 |
| notscience | - | 55 |
| Rhinox | - | 44 |
| shos | - | 57 |
| T-Bone | - | 48 |
| TierShift | - | 50 |
| Wisdom | - | 49 |
| xRECKONERx | - | 58 |
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:38 pm
by Wisdom
How does that mean tbone town?
My point was more that knowing that, he can safely claim he roleblocked me
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:42 pm
by Iecerint
I think he definitely has a roleblock. There was no reason for scum T-Bone to claim the roleblock aspect of his role UNLESS he got an amnesiac result, felt like he had to publicize it, and wanted to go ahead and publish his personal (real) result, too, since it would look awkward if he was wagoned later and said "lol I roleblocked Wisdom N1 when I bothered claiming other night results and kept it secret for no clear rason lol."
GIVEN that he has a real roleblock, he either used it on you as town or as scum. If he did it as town, T-Bone missed mollie's crumb or whatever. If he did it as scum, his entire team missed the crumb. So he's more likely town.
(Though I still don't really know what you are referring to so maybe it's a weaker towntell than under normal circumstances.)
/drunkpost mmm white russians
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:43 pm
by Iecerint
I mean I guess you can argue that he has a real roleblock and used it on someone else, but he's probably back to "just don't claim it" territory at that point. Claiming incorrect targets opens you up to being caught. But admittedly less risk here if he did get an amnesiac tracker result. But he claimed his stuff really quickly after daystart, implying relatively little hand-wringing about it.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:53 pm
by Iecerint
No clear raisin at all.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:54 pm
by Iecerint
(Also if he did it as town mollie's claim is actually irrelevant obvs but that's irrelevant to why he's not scum.)
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:56 pm
by T-Bone
I didn't know mollie claimed.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:34 pm
by notscience
Prod acknowledged, I will be here tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:16 pm
by shos
Morning.
Whay did mollie claim? Isnt mollie wisdom..?
Anyway. Tbone claimed that they went nowhere. From this we got they have no PR, ergo they are town, because PRless scum wouldmake the kill. But roleblock doesnt mean anything at all. That is kinda misleading, or rather, a fakeclaim changed in the middle?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:57 pm
by TierShift
Ugh, greyice is like a male version of LLD :/
↑ Wisdom wrote:I repeat, scum miller is a viable role here. Why can't ceph have it?
I don't think it's a viable role, honestly. It's not in this setup again, I just don't believe that.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:59 pm
by TierShift
Can you take a look at this, grey?
↑ TierShift wrote: ↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Come on, talk to me Wisdom (irony in the very player name!). Tell me what happens when Cabd flips town, because he's obvious town. Will you give me your vote to use wherever I want? Will you lynch Shos?
GREY, Ihope you can answer my questions.
Why the heck are you guys not defending cabd any stronger if you feel so sure he's town and do you need to be pressured into explaining?
↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote: ↑ Lady Lambdadelta wrote:First off, I don't normally explain townreads because it's anti-town. But given you clearly need aid, I'll give you some help.
↑ Cabd wrote:{Chandra, reck, mollie} town
Who's response to my PL thing pretty much sorts him as town although I'm really fucking sad that he took it personally, and I do regret that. Ceph's town becase town Chandra is town. Reck's hardliner approach to me "lurking it out" is actually exactly what town should think if they thought my absence was intentional.
Other notes:
LLD being emotional about losing the tokens doesn't make her town this time, it just makes her (rightfully) pissed about last time.
The way copper has slow faded on me makes sense if he's using PURELY meta to sort me, but the fact that he idn't go and check if I was posting elsewhere does give me pause.
The way tier is defending me is really odd when I really have yet to do anything town whatsoever and was absent for like 8 pages.
Not relevant to this game but holy shit my scum meta has become lurking RIP golden age, deader than CLG this split.
This post doesn't come from a scum perspective. Multiple things on this post just don't.
Can't believe I have to explain this. His comments on Who pretty much only come from a town perspective, and given his actions this game, I can't see him being capable of faking it.
Further, his stance on me was unpopular at the time, and that's the key to all of this. He's been doing significantly unpopular things, that will put himself in a bad light. Do you really think he's a sufficiently bad player, that he would deliberately just avoid the thread when he DOES have time, when he's under pressure?
He's been at L-1 for 2 days in a row now, and still no panic. Nothing. What kind of shit brained logic do you have to use to assume that this kind of play comes from a scum!Cabd, let alone scum ANYONE. If his lurking doesn't have strategic benefit, what's the scum motivation behind DOING IT?
Yeah, I don't think this one post of cabds is enough of a reason to townread him.
↑ Wisdom wrote:No, I'm saying Cabd is town and you're wking him.
Why does cabd need to be town for the wk?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:00 pm
by Iecerint
↑ shos wrote:Anyway. Tbone claimed that they went nowhere. From this we got they have no PR, ergo they are town, because PRless scum wouldmake the kill. But roleblock doesnt mean anything at all. That is kinda misleading, or rather, a fakeclaim changed in the middle?
I personally inferred track and made that conclusion; he corrected me multiple times to indicate that it was actually just that that person hadn't made the kill, and I kept re-explaining.
So he tried to clear up my confusion on that point, consistent with always having something other than "tracker" in his head.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:04 pm
by shos
This is so meh.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:31 pm
by TierShift
So, if I get it right, T-bone has claimed:
1. Track from someone else on ceph-no action
2. Own RB on Eddie
Questions that may have already been answered but please do answer:
-Why eddie?
-How does this make tbone town, Iec?
-When did mollie claim?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:37 pm
by TierShift
Reck are you just gonna ignore
2120?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:59 pm
by Iecerint
↑ TierShift wrote:So, if I get it right, T-bone has claimed:
1. Track from someone else on ceph-no action
2. Own RB on Eddie
Questions that may have already been answered but please do answer:
-Why eddie?
-How does this make tbone town, Iec?
-When did mollie claim?
1. He said he thought the slot was scummy, but under the radar.
2. It made him town when they were both "tracks" in my mind (due to bothering to claim it rather than the target per se), it didn't make him town when his personal action was a roleblock (mostly because this coincided with remembering that Eddie was mollie/Who). It made him town again when his team "knew" that mollie claimed.
3. Roleblocking a "known" non-night-action slot doesn't make sense for scum, but can make sense for town (as they think it's a lie or want to block the kill). I suspect Wisdom was just gambiting at this point tho. Also, he tried to correct inferences I made based on assuming a track on Wisdom.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:13 pm
by TierShift
Thanks.
↑ Iecerint wrote:It made him town again when his team "knew" that mollie claimed.
I don't get this, though.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:20 pm
by Iecerint
If mollie really claimed something with no night action, at least one scum probably saw it. If at least one scum saw it, they wouldn't target her. Just T-Bone missing it is easier to understand.
Caveats: scumTBone could be lying about his target (but why claim it at all in that case?), the entire scum could have missed it.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:25 pm
by TierShift
But mollie did claim? I don't remember her doing so and you're saying wisdom was maybe gambiting so I don't get this anymore. Did she or did she not?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:33 pm
by Iecerint
I'm sure Wisdom will clarify.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:35 pm
by TierShift
I really don't get what's going on so I hope he does.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:42 am
by Wisdom
↑ TierShift wrote:Ugh, greyice is like a male version of LLD :/
↑ Wisdom wrote:I repeat, scum miller is a viable role here. Why can't ceph have it?
I don't think it's a viable role, honestly. It's not in this setup again, I just don't believe that.
If it was in the previous roll, it has lots of chances to be in this one too.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:42 am
by Wisdom
↑ shos wrote:From this we got they have no PR, ergo they are town, because PRless scum wouldmake the kill.
Or he has a day ability like I do
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:44 am
by TierShift
↑ Wisdom wrote: ↑ TierShift wrote:Ugh, greyice is like a male version of LLD :/
↑ Wisdom wrote:I repeat, scum miller is a viable role here. Why can't ceph have it?
I don't think it's a viable role, honestly. It's not in this setup again, I just don't believe that.
If it was in the previous roll, it has lots of chances to be in this one too.
that's stupid, a super duper rare role is not gonna be repeated without a single change.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:44 am
by Wisdom
↑ Iecerint wrote:It made him town again when his team "knew" that mollie claimed.
Or they missed the claim like everyone appears to have done.
Or they saw the claim and he is lying about roleblocking me because it's safe.