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In post 2214, Menalque wrote:Bell, why aren’t you voting

Cause A50 said a thing which made me wanna slow down.

Or maybe I am gamma’s scum partner. Tee hee.

New rule suggestion: Players should deposit $100 in advance to be allowed to sign up to a Large, and if they flake or replace out they don't get refunded. *Nods*

In post 1947, April Ludgate wrote:My thoughts are Samantha is probably scum who stopped caring and TMI knows the slot is town so they know it actually did get confirmed, even if people don’t see it like that.

I've the opposite thought--if samantha thought the game were compromised as scum, samantha would air those grievances with the mod in the scum PT...not in-thread.

That samantha aired that belief in-thread rather than privately is proof that samantha is town.

In post 2228, mastina wrote:

In post 1947, April Ludgate wrote:My thoughts are Samantha is probably scum who stopped caring and TMI knows the slot is town so they know it actually did get confirmed, even if people don’t see it like that.

I've the opposite thought--if samantha thought the game were compromised as scum, samantha would air those grievances with the mod in the scum PT...not in-thread.

That samantha aired that belief in-thread rather than privately is proof that samantha is town.

Can we just stop speculating on replaces and keep it to what they're doing in the actual game

In post 1963, April Ludgate wrote:The L word

Lesbian?
"The other L-word."
...Lesbians?

In post 1968, Menalque wrote:I think I might know what you’re getting at here mastina

Wouldn't surprise me, I've been incredibly unsubtle about it.

In post 2231, mastina wrote:

In post 1968, Menalque wrote:I think I might know what you’re getting at here mastina

Wouldn't surprise me, I've been incredibly unsubtle about it.

Oh thanks for pointing this out I wasn't aware that Mena was anti town too!

In post 1983, April Ludgate wrote:I’m pretty sure A50 and I have been Miller Masons together before, so it’s funny we got it again

Oh is this an actual real claim of third? I'd believe it if so.

In post 1989, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I really need a place where I can ramble away from the thread so if anyone's a neighborizer please target me

I was already voting Gamma but I have good reason to believe that this is a TMI slip from Gamma.

I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

In post 2024, Morning Mage wrote:3 posts ago you said there was a 20% chance they were fakeclaiming.

And that was to the initial claim, which was shown to be not quite accurate. (And notably I said that the 20% chance of them fakeclaiming was still them as town, not as scum.)

To the revised fullclaim, that's 100% not a fakeclaim. They're telling the truth; I'm sure of it.

In post 2039, Menalque wrote:Mastina, why did bell move up?

Because the more and more Bell posts, the more and more town I see in his posting.

In post 2039, Menalque wrote:Also why is echo so low

Better question; what the fuck in Echo's posting makes anyone so convinced he's town? There's literally nothing town in that iso at all.

In post 2039, Menalque wrote:why is TGP near locktown?

Strongly town earlygame posting and strongly town more recent posting--I admit his middle posting is a little less town, but overwhelmingly his posts just look town, saying things that resonate with me in a similar manner to how things you say resonate with me.

In post 2055, April Ludgate wrote:

In post 2053, superbowl9 wrote:Not sure samatha's gonna be in the game much longer my friend

Then even more reason to kill her.

No, getting a replacement is better, given the slot is town, and thus the town replacement will be able to town it up and reaffirm their place in my townbloc is justified.

In post 2064, April Ludgate wrote:He’s not whining enough to be scum.

I suggest you read Gamma again given there is plenty of that in his iso.

In post 2076, Menalque wrote:Fascinating
Gamma gets run up
>attempted CW on norwee
>attempted CW on ban hydras
>attempted CW on samantha!slot
i n t e r e s t i n g

Yup!

Interestingly enough, the Ban Hydras and samantha!slot one gained a lot of steam for egregiously bad reasons, so both are terrible-ass counterwagons to Gamma based on shit reasoning that gained more steam.

Compared to the attempted counterwagon on Norwegian, which was for good reasons and yet didn't gain steam.

Hmm, I wonder why the shitty-reason counterwagons to Gamma gained steam, while the reasonable-reason counterwagon to Gamma didn't?
Whyever could that be.

In post 2080, Morning Mage wrote:if samantha flips town, im down with gamma tomorrow - deal?

No deal.

Samantha is a slot that has every reason to be town and no reason to be scum, and which we'll presumably be getting a replacement for, a replacement that will give us more content from the slot. (And, regardless of the alignment of the slot, this is not a bad thing. samantha-replacement is town, they give us better analysis and have a chance to prove it. samantha-replacement is scum, they give us more information to poe the other scum, but that said, the slot is town so this latter scenario is just a hypothetical thought exercise.)

Gamma is a slot that has many reasons to be scum and few valid ones to be town. (Reasons involving the Gamma wagon's persistence are not valid, but I will admit that there's other defenses of Gamma not relying on the wagon on him, which may or may not be valid but which aren't definitively invalid, I confess.)

In post 2160, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm thinking mastina is town rn, her read list looks decent even if I am at the bottom of it

You say, while literally all of the people you're voting/fingering/saying are suspicious, are players that I'm hard-townreading.

So, what exactly about my readslist is decent if it has you as scum and all of your alleged scumreads as hard-town???

In post 2235, superbowl9 wrote:I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

Ok. I claim town smartass. I know too much for my own good. I come fully equipped with a VCA no one understands on day 3 with a scum lynch that's not a guilty.

In post 2241, mastina wrote:

In post 2076, Menalque wrote:Fascinating
Gamma gets run up
>attempted CW on norwee
>attempted CW on ban hydras
>attempted CW on samantha!slot
i n t e r e s t i n g

Yup!

Interestingly enough, the Ban Hydras and samantha!slot one gained a lot of steam for egregiously bad reasons, so both are terrible-ass counterwagons to Gamma based on shit reasoning that gained more steam.

Compared to the attempted counterwagon on Norwegian, which was for good reasons and yet didn't gain steam.

Hmm, I wonder why the shitty-reason counterwagons to Gamma gained steam, while the reasonable-reason counterwagon to Gamma didn't?
Whyever could that be.

*Wishes I could bookmark this post for VCA*

In post 2244, Titus wrote:

In post 2235, superbowl9 wrote:I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

Ok. I claim town smartass. I know too much for my own good. I come fully equipped with a VCA no one understands on day 3 with a scum lynch that's not a guilty.

I really hate to be the L-word police but I'm just gonna keep putting reminders

And in that case I claim third-party aligned town, I'm town but my wincon is only satisfied when a 3rd party wins

In post 2184, EchoVision wrote:where are you getting the idea of 5 scum?

In post 1327, mastina wrote:

In post 886, Tayl0r Swift wrote:why do you need 5 real scumreads?

Because that'll be the number of scum in this game.

It's too large for four scum but too small for six scum. schadd_'s MBOS games are heavily vanilla, utterly ruling out six scum, but while they may be heavily vanilla, I don't see a world in which the setup is balanced with only four scum; there needs to be a fifth.

Thus, I need five real scumreads.

In post 2069, mastina wrote:

In post 1593, Gamma Emerald wrote:From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla

We've had three basically-masons claimed with extra power roles beyond that either claimed or hinted at.

This aint a heavily-vanilla game.

Thus, five scum.

^

In post 2246, superbowl9 wrote:

In post 2244, Titus wrote:

In post 2235, superbowl9 wrote:I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

Ok. I claim town smartass. I know too much for my own good. I come fully equipped with a VCA no one understands on day 3 with a scum lynch that's not a guilty.

I really hate to be the L-word police but I'm just gonna keep putting reminders

And in that case I claim third-party aligned town, I'm town but my wincon is only satisfied when a 3rd party wins

*conjures up another third party*

In post 2190, EchoVision wrote:SO THEN WHY ARE WE TOWN READING APRIL FOR SAYING "I TEND TO DO THIS THING" OR "I DON'T DO THIS THING"

Okay I found the town thing EchoVision has done this game.

(Yes, this is literally the first thing I've seen from EchoVision that makes me think he's town.)

And to answer the question: I'm not townreading April for doing that--in fact I explicitly said I wasn't townreading April for those statements.

I am townreading April for different reasons, off of a combination of meta and also generic feeling for what April's doing as feeling like it's not scum.