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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:35 am
by Akarin
In post 2206, SirCakez wrote:how was I involved in this other than moving to no elim? (which I've been saying the whole game I wanted)
The timing of your move back to No Elim.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:35 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 2217, Blitzo wrote:MC's vote analysis post doesn't really seem to come to any actual conclusions and I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish with it.
I was trying to get a foothold into the game by trying find anything to analyze. Which I did, I now have those questions I am going to look into.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:36 am
by Battle Mage
i still like Akarin for town.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:36 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 2221, Battle Mage wrote:with 5 hours left, looks like no-lim is inevitable anyway. no time to get a last minute claim from anybody, and I don't favour elimming without that.
Are we worried about claims?
I kinda thought town power came from the hoods

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:37 am
by Taly
last bit

cakez
vote someone, if we no lim it might as well be because we run out of time.

i still think a lim can be pulled off on more than one slot, contrary to
BM
.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:37 am
by Akarin
In post 2208, Taly wrote:To my knowledge, she was one of the first people to inject the Haschel/Reck TvS. She asserted doubt into Haschel's intentions WHILE saying Reck's opinions were "garbage" and still townreads Reck in the same vein. It feels like a TMI on Reck's alignment because this functionally provided doubt to Reck's thinking without having to push him as scum for the POV.
I mean, Reck's opinion
is
garbage, but I think he sounds like townier garbage too.

Why do you think it's TMI?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:39 am
by Blitzo
@MC - okay, let's see it.
BM trying to discredit me here by saying my posts follow a structure is not going to work.
Let's get a lim here plx.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:41 am
by Akarin
Taly deserves a treat for voting with me. Give quick wagon swaps a chance!Image

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:42 am
by MURDERCAT
Who do you want Taly? Titus? I mean the three of us could move there I guess if you really think an elim is better.
HC seems .. unlikely at this point

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:43 am
by Thestatusquo
VoteCount 1.60


titus [4]
haschel cedricson pookythemagicalbear battle mage gamma emerald
MURDERCAT [3]
outworldER xRECKONERx thegoldenparadox
Battle Mage [3]
blitzo DrippingGoofball titus
Haschel Cedricson [2]
Akarin taly
thegoldenparadox [2]
murdercat alisae
sircakez [1]
bell
no elim [1]
sircakez

Not Voting [1]
flea the magician


With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:44 am
by Battle Mage
In post 2229, Taly wrote:last bit

cakez
vote someone, if we no lim it might as well be because we run out of time.

i still think a lim can be pulled off on more than one slot, contrary to
BM
.
let me rephrase. I think if there is a majority for a lim today, it's stupid that we left it until a couple hours before deadline before pulling our fingers out of our asses.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:45 am
by Akarin
People pushed for me to defend Titus, then 100% ignored it
In post 2154, Akarin wrote:the "case" on her is pure gut, unexplained, or explained based on a post that is a really bad reason to eliminate Titus. Gamma's earlier point about how many people want to NK Titus on N1 if they're scum, the way the Titus wagon came up both times, the way the MURDERCAT wagon dissipated, and the way Titus handled that small aborted argument with me earlier in the Day.

I think Titus is town. I think the vague differences are explainable by the gamestate and Titus' feeling that No Elimination is optimal. I think her wagon is a ridiculous nothing that people are somehow suddenly enthusiastic about for the 2nd time today with everyone sort of vaguely consenting to it (including people not currently voting for her.)
If y'all are gonna vote Titus, could you address some of this?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:45 am
by Akarin
In post 2233, MURDERCAT wrote:HC seems .. unlikely at this point
What part of my case do you think is obviously bad?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:46 am
by Battle Mage
In post 2228, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 2221, Battle Mage wrote:with 5 hours left, looks like no-lim is inevitable anyway. no time to get a last minute claim from anybody, and I don't favour elimming without that.
Are we worried about claims?
I kinda thought town power came from the hoods
ah maybe that doesnt matter then

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:47 am
by Battle Mage
In post 2236, Akarin wrote:People pushed for me to defend Titus, then 100% ignored it
In post 2154, Akarin wrote:the "case" on her is pure gut, unexplained, or explained based on a post that is a really bad reason to eliminate Titus. Gamma's earlier point about how many people want to NK Titus on N1 if they're scum, the way the Titus wagon came up both times, the way the MURDERCAT wagon dissipated, and the way Titus handled that small aborted argument with me earlier in the Day.

I think Titus is town. I think the vague differences are explainable by the gamestate and Titus' feeling that No Elimination is optimal. I think her wagon is a ridiculous nothing that people are somehow suddenly enthusiastic about for the 2nd time today with everyone sort of vaguely consenting to it (including people not currently voting for her.)
If y'all are gonna vote Titus, could you address some of this?
in fairness, this fails to engage with the reason I have been voting Titus. *shrug*

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:47 am
by Blitzo
I feel like there should be more people here and there aren't.
I don't like that.
PEDIT - the case on titus is that she's lazy and apathetic iirc.
I can see it but there are a bunch of people I don't want to vote with on that wagon which has me hesitant.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:48 am
by Battle Mage
i may be done for the day, need to post in other games lol

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:49 am
by Akarin
In post 2239, Battle Mage wrote:in fairness, this fails to engage with the reason I have been voting Titus. *shrug*
Could you restate your reasons then?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:49 am
by Battle Mage
In post 2240, Blitzo wrote:I feel like there should be more people here and there aren't.
I don't like that.
PEDIT - the case on titus is that she's lazy and apathetic iirc.
I can see it but there are a bunch of people I don't want to vote with on that wagon which has me hesitant.
yes it's outrageous that some people aren't playing mafia on a Tuesday afternoon within core working hours.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:50 am
by Taly
akarin <3


at the very least, i have quite a few strong townreads ending this dayphase, more than just
alisae/OWER
at this point.
Akarin wrote:
In post 2208, Taly wrote:To my knowledge, she was one of the first people to inject the Haschel/Reck TvS. She asserted doubt into Haschel's intentions WHILE saying Reck's opinions were "garbage" and still townreads Reck in the same vein. It feels like a TMI on Reck's alignment because this functionally provided doubt to Reck's thinking without having to push him as scum for the POV.
I mean, Reck's opinion
is
garbage, but I think he sounds like townier garbage too.

Why do you think it's TMI?
Reads felt solidified too soon but that could be a playstyle disparity.
In post 2233, MURDERCAT wrote:Who do you want Taly? Titus? I mean the three of us could move there I guess if you really think an elim is better.
HC seems .. unlikely at this point
Haschel
but I can compromise on
Titus
. I'd rather not no-lim off plurality but I like that better than
BM/MC
lims.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:52 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 2237, Akarin wrote:
In post 2233, MURDERCAT wrote:HC seems .. unlikely at this point
What part of my case do you think is obviously bad?
I'm just referencing the number of votes needed compared to e.g. Titus (or me)

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:52 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2234, Thestatusquo wrote:titus [4] haschel cedricson pookythemagicalbear battle mage gamma emerald
MURDERCAT [3] outworldER xRECKONERx thegoldenparadox
Battle Mage [3] blitzo DrippingGoofball titus
Haschel Cedricson [2] Akarin taly
thegoldenparadox [2] murdercat alisae
this is pretty much the extent of what's possible atp

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: haschel
I'm lukewarm on this personally but it's an interesting choice

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:53 am
by Akarin
In post 2245, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm just referencing the number of votes needed compared to e.g. Titus (or me)
It's a 2 vote difference. Don't make it sound impossible.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:54 am
by MURDERCAT
Taly I am current rereading some older stuff but I will sheep you, it seems like you have a better sense of the gamestate than I do and I think you are town.