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In post 2177, Ydrasse wrote:why do you trust me again?

In post 1739, Farkran wrote:

In post 1542, Menalque wrote:

In post 1109, Menalque wrote:

skitter30

Farkran
Alisae
PookyTheMagicalBear

Chara

Luca Blight
NorwegianboyEE

LegoLucy

Sujimichi

Ydrasse

Day
Something_

Smart

In post 1681, Menalque wrote:VOTE: lucy

I mean you're kinda doing it on purpose now

In post 1741, Menalque wrote:

In post 1739, Farkran wrote:I mean you're kinda doing it on purpose now

?

In post 1777, Chara wrote:hi i'm back, unwillingly. do you guys need me or can i just coast and then take credit/blame for whatever happens?

In post 1816, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

the wagon on mena is for meta reasons

she is using her knowledge of his play to defend him

seems perfectly reasonable esp since she and him are fairly close friends who talk often.

in regards to redacted tho - I would say his passion in that game upon being launched was quite a bit more unrestrained than he is displaying now.

Has he become more mature and less carey? Cuz he is getting scumread for it rn.

In post 1827, Chara wrote:VOTE: Day

In post 1830, Luca Blight wrote:Walking to the bus but something just hit me

The townbloc is accurate and Skitter is desperately trying to throw a spanner in the works?

In post 1840, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1800, LegoLucy wrote:Because he dislike me too. You are sharing a hobby with him to flirt him into your pocket. Hunting Lucy hobby. But you are faking your interest in the hobby. Bad date. Menal probably serious in hobby and think I might vacation. Menal silly.

day.

she's literally saying that i'm trying to pocket mena by sharing his scumread on her

(and thus casting grand aspersions on my reads, my motivations for them, how i'm interacting with mena)

when. mena. was. townreading. lucy.

In post 1849, Chara wrote:

In post 1841, Day wrote:

In post 1838, Chara wrote:

In post 1828, Day wrote:I don't mean your initial Lucy suspicions, I mean your recent ones and picking to push her over anyone else.

i don't have context for skitter's initial suspicion of Lucy, but why do you townread her so strongly? a quote would be fine if it's there.

I know her main and her play is strongly towny for her.

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhhh fine

okay, so who should skitter have picked to push instead of Lucy?

i know i should just be reading up fully but doing this is so much easier to parse, i apologize.

In post 1865, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:thats a fair point

VOTE: lucy

In post 1872, Day wrote:

In post 1861, Chara wrote:i don't get the argument that skitter should vote someone who will actually go to elimination to save Mena, it kind of sidesteps the act of voting a player you scumread and is just a weird framing of the vote.

pedit: eh.

From the start of 1800, it looks like Lucy sees herself as very townread in the village, so she might be thinking wolf skitter's making a push that doesn't actually have a chance of going through to save Menalque, and is only doing it for appearances? The pocket thing is flawed but I can see reasoning behind that part of it.

In post 1875, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1872, Day wrote:

In post 1861, Chara wrote:i don't get the argument that skitter should vote someone who will actually go to elimination to save Mena, it kind of sidesteps the act of voting a player you scumread and is just a weird framing of the vote.

pedit: eh.

From the start of 1800, it looks like Lucy sees herself as very townread in the village, so she might be thinking wolf skitter's making a push that doesn't actually have a chance of going through to save Menalque, and is only doing it for appearances? The pocket thing is flawed but I can see reasoning behind that part of it.

if scum-me is trying to save partner-mena that would be a very ineffective way of goinb about it, no?

In post 1899, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1893, Day wrote:

In post 1882, skitter30 wrote:right, the person she just voted to e1

I can sympathize with reading two players independently and not doing pre-flip team reads but I agree it is a little jarring in this case.

she's literally going: e-1 mena
and then shortly thereafter saying that i'm scum trying to pocket him

why and how she switched from one to the other isn't clear, and those universes don't make sense to believe in at the same time

In post 1970, skitter30 wrote: ok so we're basically saying that you think the most viable explanation for me pushign you right now is:
- scum me
- pushing you instead of someone on wagon that is actually flippable
- so that i can save mena

and that all of htis is more likely than ... me townreading mena and voting the worst vote on wagon?

~~
again from my pov you realize how this sounds ridiculous, right?

In post 1995, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1984, LegoLucy wrote:Then there's, I think your interaction with Mena has a big vibe of exactly one scum in {Menalque, skitter} so that flips me some between those.

this doesnt really make sense to me at all

In post 2048, skitter30 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80641
Also you and farkran were in this game where iirc it was the first time mena did the whole 'townbin skits etc' thing
So i know you've seen it before

(Incidentally he got burned, but whatever)

In post 2093, Chara wrote:re: the actual content, Day's commitment to defusing the situation around your slot/translating or explaining your posts pinged, and then after being called on that and with the skitter timeline thing, they pulled back and did seem to reconsider themself.
it gives me pause, and i'm not sure i agree with skitter about it being NAI, since it's scum who might benefit from taking the reasonable, less aggro-approach, while i usually characterize town as being more protective of their opinions. but there exist reasonable town, too. and i have a tendency myself to scumread that agreeableness some players just Have.

In post 2110, Chara wrote:

In post 2104, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh I dont think day is scummy - the defense is too weak and ineffective for that.

my question was actually to Lucy, i just took a while asking it.

the defense being ineffective is part of why i didn't like it, actually. it just felt like scum knowing Lucy's town and so easily finding the town thought process, then communicating that to defuse the miscommunication to look reasonable/town.

In post 2123, Chara wrote:it doesn't matter what you want! mafia is about mercilessly voting your mafia e-girlfriend!!! just kill her!! dead!!! that's love!!!!

In post 2144, Ydrasse wrote:

In post 564, Farkran wrote:

In post 461, Ydrasse wrote:like im just

i feel super frustrated already w this game which is dumb but it feels like I Do Not Get To Have Fun Playing this one + i dont get to play how i want to (read, fun bc i really like this player list) and it will take me flipping town for people to see it's not AI for me to act like this i guess, idk

I do notice a higher level of frustration coming from you though and i have to agree with skitter that you were quicker to attack your attackers in the last game

Can you explain where's the difference between, say, skitter and costello/flea?

this is like, 10000 days late but i wanna answer this while i'm reading: i think i was especially frustrated by skitter's push bc i find being fun/social/flirty in games with player lists i like as something which is genuinely not alignment indicative for me, and it was irritating at the time to me because it felt like i am going to get scumread this game for behavior that i just find fun, and i won't be able to show everyone for sure 100% that it isn't an alignment thing with me until after this game/if i get flipped or killed, which sucks because i just want to hang out

i'm finding that one shortcoming of having a killer pl is that i'm the type of person who would rather hang out with people than actually solve and offer only potshots which doesn't do much for the game itself, but basically i took that push to heart especially. also, as i said before, it's really dumb fmpov to try something that just made me lose over again in the hopes that somehow it works this time

(sorry i just wanted to clarify this even though it's super old news)

(also might i say, i get fuckall from the first like, 30 pages or so, i'm where i started the game with luca + day town, alisae is town (and in general i think alisae's readslist in 537 is a fine one, barring 1-2 things, and goes with my reads from the start to that point), the push on me still feels like... skitter is town? probably? still yeah, i don't really think anyone's playing Overtly scummy so far)

back to trying to read up but my eyes are glazing over

In post 2179, LegoLucy wrote:What's the narrative version where I'm scum? I'm scum with skitter and found a chance to lim one? They're both town and I found a chance to lim my limmable townread instead of move mountains getting voters on skitter who has 3 people refusing to vote her under any alignment and 2 scumpartners for like, a unanimity requirement? I just kind of have that incentive no matter my alignment. Actually I just explained the incentive is much higher if I'm town because it's realistic to eliminate skitter if she doesn't have scumpartners.