In post 1176, Galron wrote:Are you going to vote for anyone Pav, DV, OTH?
Nah not yet.
OTH is my preferred vote at this point though.
after this you basically said you wanted to vote OTH again, then reread and dropped it and never mentioned them again/are soft defending them now. what's with that?
I ended up thinking they were town for being messy in what I thought was an emotional town way but I don't know anymore. I was going to say that if I were to guess I'd say they're town, but even that makes me uncomfortable. I am fence-sitting on this read and that's what it's going to be right now.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:28 am
by DeasVail
Anyway, I think I totally should be in people's PoE and am surprised by certain people not voting me (e.g. Lukewarm, Icebox), but I would suggest that people just have faith. Yep. That's my defence.
I oddly feel... uncomfortable with the idea of OTH as scum. I know it's ridiculous in a similar way to Galron's ridiculousness, but Galron was caught out in a track claim and forced into it while OTH just... made the mess all by themselves? Maybe GuiltyLion will have some wise words for us all. (It would be funny if he thinks I'm scum)
I still think Wisdom is scum. I also am squinty about Pav, who I think has tried too hard to have "trajectory" on me. I can use that word too!
is this gamma
because i doubt gamma needs me to explain
if its marci ask gamma
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:07 am
by Wisdom
In post 2222, DeasVail wrote:but as someone who is known (at least in my experience with him) to be very headstrong about reads even when they're wrong, to go ridiculously all in on Galron being town feels like a good strategy for Wisdom-scum. I don't think he's town because I don't think town in their right mind could have been so confident in Galron being town.
Youre contradicting yourself
"Wisdom is known to be headstrong even if he's wrong"
"I can't see how Wisdom can be so confident"
In post 1974, Bowser Jr. wrote:Js if Luke dies off of that I will channel him from beyond the grave
OH SO YOU'RE JEALOUS OF ME
I SEE HOW IT IS
Last game, the role similar to Juliets was a lover. When they died, they were janitored for a day but could neighborize one alive player and pass on a legacy. They chose me!
It’s interesting to see it moved around here
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:39 am
by Lukewarm
Writing a sonnet is hard, but I need the gold x.x
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:05 am
by Wisdom
In post 1070, Dunnstral wrote:If we are assuming Juliet is scum we should VOTE: Pavowski
Why was that? Just wondering if I missed any associatives
In post 92, Pavowski wrote:I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in
I bethink thee has't react'd in an exaggerat'd way towards juliet's efforts. The lady hast but writ a verse 'r two and thee has't scrambl'd f'r that lady favor, and madeth a point to alloweth everyone knoweth
In post 1230, Wisdom wrote:Does anyone townnread Ceph or DV and is able to sell that to me
I feel like other than maybe Dunn I'm townreading everyone else but can't read those two
If anything Ceph's lack of attempt to get me to townread him after I started suspecting him is sort of town.
Also I think I am town and will sell you that read for 2 gold?
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GuiltyLion, I like your comprehensive post on Galron. I don't have the time right now to revisit Galron's posts and my thoughts on them more specifically, but essentially I'd say he's probably in the bottom half of my reads, and I remember thinking that it would be weird for him to be scum but I don't remember exactly why. The only specific thought about him that I remember is that the meltdown over Wheme being Friendly Neighbor and the crier claiming it anonymously but not in thread would be a strange thing for scum to fake caring about.. but I could see it in some sort of bizarre world where Galron just decides to see how much he can get away with making up.
I plan on engaging a bit more with your Galron read tomorrow and sharing more detailed thoughts.
Grand plans do not always eventuate, but further to the above I guess what I lack from Galron is any real effort to look town, and that makes it difficult for me to have him as a strong scumread. A lot of the jokey non-serious stuff seems reasonably likely from town just doing whatever.
DV subtly defending Galron
Probably this means DV and Pav are not both scum. If Pav figured there's a guilty, he'd say so and DV would not be trying to save him.
And I'll bet my rug GL is town after a post like that.
i feel like pav figured GL is softing a guilty so he got the first seats on the bus while he could
Nah. I was already ready to vote Galron after D1 and GL's post sealed the deal for me.
If he was softing a guilty on Gal, I didn't pick it up. I just thought that, like I did, he sussed the slot and unlike me, he bothered to case it.
I'll point out again that even though there were opportunities for me to hop off the Galron wagon, I never did, though there was a perfectly serviceable Dunn wagon happening at the time (and maybe another? I dunno I've been finding this game hard to follow, not used to so many players).
It sure would make your solve easy, though, if I were bussing there, huh?
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:20 am
by Wisdom
In post 2238, Pavowski wrote:I'll point out again that even though there were opportunities for me to hop off the Galron wagon, I never did, though there was a perfectly serviceable Dunn wagon happening at the time (and maybe another? I dunno I've been finding this game hard to follow, not used to so many players).
That doesnt mean much
Galron was guiltied, he'd die eventually. If you left the wagon you would look bad.
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:22 am
by Pavowski
Fair point. Wouldn't it look worse then to not be on the wagon?
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:27 am
by Lukewarm
Spoiler:
There were other people I wanted to call out, but making names fit into the iambic pentameter was hard
I kinda added an umbrella term to the following line to grab the people I missed lol
Also, yes I did end up calling out ffery twice lmao. But those names both fit, and both added another non-ffery person
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:27 am
by Lukewarm
That is the best I got
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:31 am
by Pavowski
Oh a sonnet, boffo Luke.
I'm just finishing mine!
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:41 am
by Pavowski
My dubious effort
My friend sits there, but is he my friend true?
We pose the question oft, but who can say?
Upon deduction vict’ry may accrue,
Yet just as like, it leads us all astray.
‘Tis said the pen is mightier than the blade
A fair assessment, by a dude who knows
The pen’s the only weapon we all have
To puzzle out the traitors ‘neath our nose
In fair Mafiascum we lay our scene
To try, and trap, and trick our troubled lot
Where civil blood makes civil keys unclean
On what went wrong your last scum roll, think not
For if you’re town or not’s not a question of what’s true,
The vi’lent villagers lurking here decide your fate for you.
Please forgive the kinda-sorta-not-really rhyme in stanza 2, I bastardized the hell out of that one so I could get it done before my students show up
And yeah I'm over syllable count in the couplet but fook it, I liked it
There were other people I wanted to call out, but making names fit into the iambic pentameter was hard
I kinda added an umbrella term to the following line to grab the people I missed lol
Also, yes I did end up calling out ffery twice lmao. But those names both fit, and both added another non-ffery person
This actually is kind of decent (I have high standards for poetry, this is a compliment)
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:50 am
by Titus
Split Mind
We gathered together to lim scum
Scum tried hard to eliminate WhemeStar
Town caught Juliet Capulet easy hun
Our great townblock will have us go far
I desired to give Pavowski another word
Yet scum refused to silence him yesterday
I do suspect he will always be heard
This scum read may change with more time today
Then we caught the real, evil Juliet, Galron
LLD tried to defend by speaking
The guilty came from the GuiltyLion
That ensured Galron would be no evil king
Talking with GuiltyLion, I said good
To predict the nightkill was easily smooth
So we arrived in solid neighborhood
He'll be my right brain to hopefully sooth
This will be a good one night special talk
Speak too many words and our host will balk
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:54 am
by Wisdom
In post 1365, Wisdom wrote:Vote dunn with us or Ceph if you prefer and we'll join you
In post 1366, Off The Hook wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral
I’m feeling like the points against Galron aren’t enough to condemn him when his claim could do some good imo
Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
marci also sus ceph and I’m lean town on him but also a bit tbd
-GE
yo oth voters
scumbuddies dont vote the counterwagon when Galron is fucking guiltied. They join and look for cred.
There were other people I wanted to call out, but making names fit into the iambic pentameter was hard
I kinda added an umbrella term to the following line to grab the people I missed lol
Also, yes I did end up calling out ffery twice lmao. But those names both fit, and both added another non-ffery person
This actually is kind of decent (I have high standards for poetry, this is a compliment)
<3
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:55 am
by Off The Hook
Wait Titus you’re claiming to be in a hood with GL who is dead? What do you make of DV claiming the same?
Also imma try to work with marci to write a sonnet together
Yep. That's my defence.
