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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:59 am
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 2223, Aristeia wrote:her emotional appeals are +++ scum indicative

it literally makes no sense for town to be expressing massive fustration if she was fine with being flipped back at post 699.
yeah that's true. do you put it past her to be deliberately manipulative as town?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:00 am
by Aristeia
i have issues with you being fooled by ate when you usually ignore that shit or scumread it

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:01 am
by Aristeia
In post 2225, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 2223, Aristeia wrote:her emotional appeals are +++ scum indicative

it literally makes no sense for town to be expressing massive fustration if she was fine with being flipped back at post 699.
yeah that's true. do you put it past her to be deliberately manipulative as town?
bending over backwards to make excuses for her

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:02 am
by Aristeia
appalling

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:04 am
by Aristeia
sure are sticking your neck out pretty far to make defense/excuse for someone who is "#3 on your list"

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 am
by Shuichi Saihara
im asking you a question about a player you know better than i do

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 am
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 2226, Aristeia wrote:i have issues with you being fooled by ate when you usually ignore that shit or scumread it
i do? *takes notes*

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:18 am
by Shuichi Saihara
i understand that you're not having fun with this game but you don't need to take it out on me

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:21 am
by Aristeia
the problem with your responses is that you are more focussed on defending Prism than you are on burying Baltar

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:22 am
by Aristeia
if you want to fake a townie mindset - you need to actually do what town you would do - which is convince people baltar is scum and needs to eat rope

instead your primary goal is to defend Prism in weird convoluted ways.

Because you don't actually care about eliminating baltar - that's not your primary goal, your primary goal is to keep Prism alive into night so you can shoot me and then go cruise mode the rest of the game.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:23 am
by Aristeia
when you do a chainsaw defense - you should focus 80%+ of your posts towards tunneling the target of your chainsaw and mercilessly thrashing them.

It conveys your investment in forcing the elim thru

When you begin to concentrate instead of defending your own behavior and that of the person you are chainsawing for - it makes you look like you are not actually invested in your original outcome.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:25 am
by Aristeia
It doesn't matter what the conversation is.

If town!you is convinced Baltar = Scum - you can't stop yourself from talking about how Baltar is scum and everyone should vote for and kill Baltar.

This is how I am with Prism. I am 100% convinced Prism is mafia and I can't stop talking about it because I am incredibly invested in forcing her flip through today.

You simply do not have this dedication.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:29 am
by Enchant
Reality: Prism flips Town, and Aris tells "Mafia have tailor".

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:31 am
by Prism
I think the mere fact of outing when they did and not being on me instead is +town for Shuichi, even if not 100%. Will be 100% if Baltar flips scum.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:31 am
by Aristeia
In post 2225, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 2223, Aristeia wrote:her emotional appeals are +++ scum indicative

it literally makes no sense for town to be expressing massive fustration if she was fine with being flipped back at post 699.
yeah that's true. do you put it past her to be deliberately manipulative as town?

The reason this question is not a genuine is because it is not asking the
RIGHT
question.

the implication is "Well Prism can be manipulative as town too!"

Which is a defense of Prism's play so far this game.

If you were
actually
curious about Prism's alignment and not just trying to suggest a defensive reason for why she is manipulative here is what you should have asked:

"How are you differentiating between Town Emotional Manipulation versus Scum Emotional Manipulation?"

One of them is suggesting a possibility without curiosity - while the other is genuine curiosity towards why I scumread Prism so much for the way she has presented herself to this thread and the manipulation she is using.


Also the answer to your first question is trivial, of course Prism manipulates as town, most people do manipulate as town, you need to in order to get things done. That's why it is a trivial and stupid question that is not asked out of curiosity but to make excuses for Prism.

The actual answer to the more salient question of
how
I know this manipulation is coming from Scum!Prism and not Town!Prism is because I simply do not believe her emotional state is consistent with the messaging she is putting into the thread.,

It would take many posts to analyze each of her shifts and why they do not correspond to how she plays town and I'll probably work on that tonight. It will be the subject of another post about why this is absolutely not how she conducts herself as town.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:33 am
by Dwlee99
Enchant I'm town, Ari is town, sheep us

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:34 am
by Dwlee99
@Datisi/Fire also ^^

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:34 am
by Prism
This game cannot end soon enough. 5 days ago would have been too late.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:37 am
by Aristeia
can vote draw anytime you want

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:38 am
by Prism
Town
======
skitter30
Shuichi
fireisred
Datisi
Dwlee
Enchant
VP Baltar
Aristeia
======
Scum & MVP

I will be back later, I have another project today

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:39 am
by Dwlee99
I thought I went up lol

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:39 am
by Prism
I would love to draw and call it a day.

P-Edit: No, but you did start playing better.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
by Aristeia
VOTE: Draw

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
by Aristeia
let's just call it a day then

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:41 am
by Prism
Perhaps I am wrong on skitter and she is just playing it in the safest way imaginable, and I will scream if so.

For now I'm fine with her at the top. If you want to be pedantic she could maybe go below Shuichi/fire for range reasons.