In post 2221, Datisi wrote:@skitt, i wish i could be 100% that he's scum. i'm feeling anxiety about the vote because if he does die today and turns out green, tomorrow is going to be pain and yeetlo is going to be difficult.
I mean sure but i still dont even know how you're reading bh ...
which part of voting him and saying his read on me is bullshit is unclear???
like just because i don't feel comfortable betting my own life on that flip doesn't mean i don't think he's most likely scum!!
if he flips green, then yeah i think it's you who was positioning me/bh and irrel/mena
part of me still does not want to make this vote, because if he really is a confbiased townie, then i'll get instamurdered tomorrow and good luck solving that yeetlo. but here we are i guess.
The part where you're v worried that he's flipping town
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:13 am
by Save The Dragons
I'm with friends functionally vla but I'm around and trying to stay abreast of what's going on
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:17 am
by Save The Dragons
UNVOTE:
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:17 am
by Datisi
In post 2232, skitter30 wrote:The part where you're v worried that he's flipping town
this game is going to go from unfun to miserable for me if he flips town
why should i not be worried about that
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:28 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2228, skitter30 wrote:- while also sayinf you dont think he's most likely scum
i also thought his original calling the case bullshit while also implying bh was town was a strange perspective, but here i think this is wrong
"doesn't mean I don't think he's most likely scum" = does think he's most likely scum
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:34 am
by Aristeia
I am not sure enough about Datisi or Bloodhail to vote for either of them rn.
I know I was leaning towards voting for Dats coming into today and I wanted to sleep to think it over one last time and I woke up still feeling incredibly uncomfortable about the prospect of voting him out.
I don't feel any degree of certainty about either vote and I can see both of them as town playing this way.
What really bothers me is Mena's play today.
he has 4 posts and none of them contain anything remotely related to the game and I find it weird because.
If you are 100% sure you are 1v1ing a scum player and you're willing to BoP yourself to flip them - why do you suddenly step off the gas when said scum player is on the verge of being eliminated but is also 1v1ing your top townread in coalition? [remember Mena said Dats was the one he townread the most out of all 4 of us]
the momentum in the thread is clearly moving away from bloodhail being flipped towards maybe Datisi being flipped. I have expressed doubts about Dats, skitter has expressed doubts about Dats, fire has expressed a willingness to vote Dats. Dats is on the verge of getting yeeted out a fucking window.
He sees bloodhail maybe getting away and his top townread maybe getting flipped and he doesn't really care? his only post is about how the hot weather has made his brain jelly? like wtf is that?
The amount he seems to care about flipping the bloodhail/irrelephant slot seems directly related to his own survival - when he's the other option he's in here pounding the table screaming for blood when the other option is his top townread Datisi he's busy enjoying the madrid sun.
I do not care about his meta and how much he's obvtowned before - or whatever. I do not want to lose to you all being blinded by meta.
I am deeply unhappy with how mena's played today and how he suddenly doesn't seem to give a shit about flipping bloodhail.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 am
by Aristeia
anyway that's off my chest
If you all think Mena is obvtown and untouchable then whatever I will accept him as an IC and blame everyone else if he's scum and be happy taking the free IC if he's town.
I feel more uncomfortable about this game than last night.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:40 am
by Aristeia
like maybe he really likes bloodhail's new content
maybe he is re evaluating datisi
where is that thought process? none of it is in the thread
its like he opened things up and decided he doesn't need to influence the thread direction at all
and how does that make sense for Mena!Town to do ??? did he suddenly stop giving a shit which one of datisi/blood hail get flipped today?? is that a town mindset?
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:43 am
by Save The Dragons
I'm willing to do Mena still if that's an option but I dunno if theres enough desire there and I just don't know if I'm just wrong even though I agree with your points
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:45 am
by Ydrasse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am
by Aristeia
maybe Mena is just a sane human being enjoying a nice friday night out and I'm just a degenerate psycho who cares too much i dunno.
I am so conflicted.
I will vote wherever i need to to get a flip in around 2 hours and I am happy to talk about anything before then because I don't have a social life.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:56 am
by Menalque
It is not that I don’t care about flipping bloodhail, it is that I am confused and not sure what to do and the comment on the heat here was because that is directly related to my ability to concentrate
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:00 am
by Datisi
what is confusing you, mena?
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:00 am
by Menalque
I was starting to have doubts about Relly!scum right before the rep out but still think they could very well be scum — i think that’s where I want to go because I’m not confident but that’s where I was confident earlier
I am also susceptible to high confidence and while bloodhail is wrong decently often and exaggerates (if unintentionally at times) their confidence it is enough to make me slightly worried about datisi in a way I wasn’t before
If I felt I were able to properly evaluate it then I would be but right now it’s just a lot of people talking and lots of words and my brain doing the equivalent of collapsing like an overcooked sponge cake every time I try to engage the “critical” bit
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:01 am
by bloodhail
In post 2242, Aristeia wrote:maybe Mena is just a sane human being enjoying a nice friday night out and I'm just a degenerate psycho who cares too much i dunno.
I am so conflicted.
I will vote wherever i need to to get a flip in around 2 hours and I am happy to talk about anything before then because I don't have a social life.
i get what you're saying and the concern makes sense. i'm not sure him being quiet right now is zomg lockscum though
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:02 am
by Menalque
I think bloodhail is probably the best flip because it’s revealing and still good odds of scum
If scum, then they played like this to try and destabilise the game, throw things up in the air, and maybe avoid the lim by coming in hard
If town, then scum were content with what was happening and the disruption was very pro-town
I might be being too stubborn but I still want to trust that my reads on datisi and skitter are correct, but bloodhail is also right that I can OMGUS and am susceptible to pockets from being hard TR
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:02 am
by bloodhail
In post 2245, Menalque wrote:bloodhail is wrong decently often and exaggerates (if unintentionally at times) their confidence
i would like to think ive hedged my bets decently this game tyvm
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:03 am
by Menalque
Oh, I didn’t complete that thought but it was meant to say “while bloodhail is these things I also think they have overall stronger reads than me”