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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:35 pm
by Eiralox
if crescent and elsa are scum together imma lol hard. @Elsa Eira/N_M pairing makes way more sense than Eira/Gibus. Idk why you're clearing Crescent/Gibus at this point, while it's not my main focus considering crescent's d1 greening and vote then unvote of gibus u've got more to go with there d1. meh, look where u wanna I guess, just feel ur wasting ur time. then again i'll be lookin at u crescent so meh apple n pears.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:41 pm
by Eiralox
gibus hasn't been really scumhunting after Elsa claims. this worries me, heightens chances of a scum gibus but might also be pr gibus disconnected from game. gera? corwin biiiiig post. crescent-cor still ignoring. things are real simple actually: right now I don't trust none of y'all. some make sense yes but ur all on the table.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:58 pm
by Eiralox
an corwin doing mega post then not knowing that elsa said they healed gib first looks bad, might be error.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:00 pm
by geraintm
Does vivas have some sort of forcefield around them, they seem imunkillable in this game.

I've come back this morning and I cannot work out how people are getting themselves so twisted.i thought today was aiming to solve the not mafia (and others wanted vivax) problems, but for some reason these two slots cannot get over the hump.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:02 pm
by geraintm
In post 2175, gibus wrote:OK

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Like, is this in response to someone pointing out not Maria's sudden burst of (what can loosely be described as) activity?

But why the unvote so soo after?

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:03 pm
by Eiralox
correction ****elsa said they healed cres first

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:05 pm
by geraintm
In post 2175, gibus wrote:OK

VOTE: Not_Mafia
In post 2192, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 2180, geraintm wrote:
In post 2175, gibus wrote:OK

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Your last 4 votes have been 4 different people :(
You've voted 6 times the entire game, on 6 different people. In what way is this a relevant point?

You might as well point out that despite her 600 posts, Crescent has 5 votes all game and none today.
Valid point. I think I spot others shifting their votes around alot, one thing I hate players doing. Mine I think have stayed fairly constant once placed though, I've always been a player who once they make up their mind that someone is scum tends to stuck with it. I have a habit of once I think someone is scum, I see everything they do from that point of view and tunnel on them.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:06 pm
by Eiralox
In post 2228, geraintm wrote:Does vivas have some sort of forcefield around them, they seem imunkillable in this game.

I've come back this morning and I cannot work out how people are getting themselves so twisted.i thought today was aiming to solve the not mafia (and others wanted vivax) problems, but for some reason these two slots cannot get over the hump.

the sudden shift to NM is interesting. vivax was doing jack squat, yet i guess some are still town reading it and decided to lessen pressure. N_M voting vivax and gibus..... and then many votuing N_M something's not adding up here to me, we'll see

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:07 pm
by geraintm
In post 2223, gibus wrote:I'll vote whomever crescent votes
I hope crescent votes gibus for comedy sake

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:11 pm
by geraintm
So, according to vote count,vivac got 4 and then not mafia, elsa and gibus unvoted.
Vivax got to 3 yesterday and was biggest wagon, with Elsa, Corwen and not mafia and then didn't get voted off.

Either scum keeping trying to run them up and failing, or they are scum???

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:17 pm
by Eiralox
Vivax flip clears Corwin sorta, among others. N_M flip is way less info. Gibus flip i'm happy with tho i'm nbot trusting elsa, between the two claims gibus is merely where i'll hammer. elsa has done far too much that seems green to be chosen over gib.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:36 pm
by Eiralox
[quote="In post 2152, Corwinoid"]
Spoiler: Full vote history
Post Voting Voted
Day 1

Not_Mafia Not_Mafia
Alexcellent Not_Mafia
GeorgeBailey GoldfishFromTheMoon
UNOwen Corwinoid
gibus Crescent
clidd geraintm
Alexellent Elsa Jay
GeorgeBailey Alexcellent
Elsa Jay Alexcellent
gibus Elsa Jay
Eiralox Elsa Jay
geraintm clidd
Vivax Corwinoid
Eiralox <Nobody>
Elsa Jay UNOwen
Corwinoid geraintm
Elsa Jay gibus
Eiralox Crescent
GoldfishFromTheMoon Not_Mafia
Alexcellent Not_Mafia
Corwinoid Not_Mafia
Vivax GeorgeBailey
Corwinoid <Nobody>
Crescent gibus
Eiralox gibus
Crescent <Nobody>
Corwinoid UNOwen
GeorgeBailey Geraintm
Not_Mafia GeorgeBailey
Eiralox <Nobody>
Vivax Corwinoid
Eiralox GeorgeBailey
Alexcellent <Nobody>
geraintm Crescent
clidd UNOwen
Elsa Jay UNOwen
Corwinoid Vivax
Crescent Corwinoid
gibus Corwinoid
GoldfishFromTheMoon <Nobody>
Alexcellent GeorgeBailey
GeorgeBailey UNOwen
Crescent GeorgeBailey
gibus GeorgeBailey
Vivax GeorgeBailey
UNOwen GeorgeBailey
Day 2

Eiralox gibus
Alexcellent GoldfishFromTheMoon
Corwinoid Vivax
Eiralox Vivax
Not_Mafia Vivax
Elsa Jay Corwinoid
Vivax Not_Mafia
geraintm Vivax
Vivax geraintm
gibus geraintm
Vivax Crescent
Corwinoid Crescent
GoldfishFromTheMoon Crescent
GoldfishFromTheMoon Eiralox
GoldfishFromTheMoon gibus
Corwinoid Vivax
GoldfishFromTheMoon gibus (repeat vote)
gibus GoldfishFromTheMoon
Elsa Jay gibus
Eiralox <Nobody>
Corwinoid gibus
Alexcellent Not_Mafia
Alexcellent Elsa Jay
Eiralox Vivax
Crescent Elsa Jay
gibus Elsa Jay
geraintm gibus
Alexcellent <Nobody>
Alexcellent Elsa Jay
gibus GoldfishFromTheMoon
Alexcellent <Nobody>
Crescent <Nobody>
Alexcellent GoldfishFromTheMoon
Elsa Jay <Nobody>
Corwinoid <Nobody>
Corwinoid Vivax
Elsa Jay Vivax
Eiralox <Nobody>
GoldfishFromTheMoon geraintm
Crescent GoldfishFromTheMoon
Corwinoid GoldfishFromTheMoon
Elsa Jay <Nobody>
Elsa Jay GoldfishFromTheMoon
gibus <Nobody>
geraintm GoldfishFromTheMoon
gibus GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3

gibus Vivax
Eiralox geraintm
Vivax geraintm
Eiralox Vivax
Corwinoid Crescent
Eiralox gibus
geraintm Not_Mafia
Elsa Jay Vivax
Vivax <Nobody>
Vivax gibus
Not_Mafia Vivax
**I did not count Vivax self vote because it was clear that was not the intent**
Vivax <Nobody>
Eiralox Vivax
Not_Mafia <Nobody> By Request
Vivax gibus


Spoiler: Per player vote chains
clidd:

Day 1: geraintm -> UNOwen
Day 2: Dead
Day 3: Dead

Not_Mafia: Day 1: Not_Mafia -> George Baily
Day 2: Vivax
Day 3: Vivax -> Nobody

geraintm:
Day 1: clidd -> Crescent
Day 2: Vivax -> gibus -> GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3: Not_Mafia

GeorgeBailey:

Day 1: GoldfishFromTheMoon -> Alexcellent -> Geraintm -> UNOwen
Day 2: Dead
Day 3: Dedad

UNOwen:

Day 1: Corwinoid -> GeorgeBailey
Day 2: Dead
Day 3: Dead

GoldfishFromTheMoon

Day 1: Not_Mafia -> Nobody
Day 2: Crescent -> Eiralox -> gibus -> gibus (repeated vote) -> geraintm
Day 3: Dead

gibus:
Day 1: Crescent -> Elsa Jay -> Corwinoid -> GeorgeBailey
Day 2: geraintm -> GoldfishFromTheMoon --> Elsa Jay -> GoldfishFromTheMoon -> Nobody -> GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3: Vivax -> Not_Mafia

Vivax:
Day 1: Corwinoid -> GeorgeBailey -> Corwinoid
Day 2: Not_Mafia -> geraintm -> Crescent
Day 3: geraintm -> Nobody -> gibus -> Nobody > gibus ->

Elsa Jay:
Day 1: Alexcellent -> UNOwen -> gibus -> UNOwen
Day 2: Corwinoid -> gibus -> Nobody -> Vivax -> Nobody -> GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3: Vivax

Alexcellent

Day 1: Not_Mafia -> Elsa Jay -> Not_Mafia -> Nobody -> GeorgeBailey
Day 2: GoldfishFromTheMoon -> Not_Mafia -> Elsa Jay -> Nobody -> Elsa Jay -> Nobody -> GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3: Dead

Eiralox:
Day 1: Elsa Jay -> Nobody -> Crescent -> gibus -> Nobody -> GeorgeBailey
Day 2: gibus -> Vivax -> Nobody -> Vivax -> Nobody
Day 3: geraintm -> Vivax -> gibus -> Vivax

Crescent:
Day 1: gibus -> Nobody -> Corwinoid -> GeorgeBailey
Day 2: Elsa Jay -> Nobody -> GoldfishFrom TheMoon
Day 3: Not voting

Corwinoid:

Day 1: geraintm -> Not_Mafia -> Nobody -> UNOwen -> Vivax
Day 2: Vivax -> Crescent -> Vivax -> gibus -> Nobody -> Vivax -> GoldfishFromTheMoon
Day 3: Crescent


Spoiler: Wagon formations, in order of initial appearance
Day 1

Not_Mafia:
Not_Mafia (5)
Not_Mafia, Alexcellent (10)
Not_Mafia (83)
Not_Mafia, Goldfish (260)
Not_Mafia, Goldfish, Alexcellent (268)
Not_Mafia, Goldfish, Alexcellent, Corwinoid (269)
Not_Mafia, Goldfish, Alexcellent (301)
Goldfish, Alexcellent (412)
Goldfish (440)
<Empty> (650)

Goldfish:
GeorgeBailey (21)

Corwinoid:
UNOwen (27)
UNOwen, Vivax (119)
UNOwen, Vivax (424)
UNOwen, Vivax, Crescent (612)
UNOwen, Vivax, Crescent, gibus (644)
UNOwen, Vivax, gibus (780)
UNOwen, Vivax (781)
UNOwen (785)
<Empty> (846)

Crescent:
gibus (35)
<Empty> (97)
Eiralox (211)
<Empty> (340)
geraintm (493)

geraintm:
clidd (67)
clidd, Corwinoid (150)
clidd (269)
clidd, GeorgeBailey (400)
GeorgeBailey (544)
<Empty> (727)

Elsa Jay:
Alexcellent (83)
Alexcellent, gibus (97)
Alexcellent, gibus, Eiralox (108)
Alexcellent, gibus (139)
gibus (268)
<Empty> (644)

Alexcellent:
GeorgeBailey (85)
GeorgeBailey, Elsa Jay (87)

clidd:
geraintm (116)
<Empty> (493)

UNOwen:
Elsa Jay (141)
<Empty> (191)
Corwinoid (393)
Corwinoid, clidd (544)
Corwinoid, clidd, Elsa Jay (545)
clidd, Elsa Jay (595)
clidd, Elsa Jay, GeorgeBailey (727)

gibus:
Elsa Jay (191)
Elsa Jay, Crescent (339)
Elsa Jay, Crescent, Eiralox (340)
Elsa Jay, Eiralox (356)
Elsa Jay (340)
<Empty> (545)

GeorgeBailey:
Vivax (295)
Vivax, Not_Mafia (412)
Not_Mafia (424)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox (431)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent (709)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent (780)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus (781)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus, Vivax (785)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus, Vivax, UNOwen (846)

Vivax:
Corwinoid (595)

Day 2:

gibus:
Eiralox (930)
<Empty> (994)
Goldfish (1215)
Goldfish (1314)
Goldfish, Elsa Jay (1354)
Goldfish, Elsa Jay, Corwinoid (1468)
Goldfish, Elsa Jay, Corwinoid, geraintm (1590)
Goldfish, Corwinoid, geraintm (1675)
Goldfish, geraintm (1683)
geraintm (1702)
<Empty> (1829)

Goldfish:
Alexcellent (931)
Alexcellent, gibus (1351)
gibus (1484)
<Empty> (1587)
gibus (1640)
gibus, Alexcellent (1664)
gibus, Alexcellent, Crescent (1787)
gibus, Alexcellent, Crescent, Corwinoid (1788)
gibus, Alexcellent, Crescent, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay (1795)
Alexcellent, Crescent, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay (1796)
Alexcellent, Crescent, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay, geraintm (1829)
Alexcellent, Crescent, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay, geraintm, gibus (1849)

Vivax:
Corwinoid (978)
Corwinoid, Eiralox (994)
Corwinoid, Eiralox, Not_Mafia (995)
Corwinoid, Eiralox, Not_Mafia, geraintm (1094)
Eiralox, Not_Mafia, geraintm (1116)
Eiralox, Not_Mafia, geraintm, Corwinoid (1230)
Not_Mafia, geraintm, Corwinoid (1398)
Not_Mafia, geraintm (1468)
Not_Mafia, geraintm, Eiralox (1519)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox (1590)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Corwinoid (1689)
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay (1695)
Not_Mafia, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay (1697)
Not_Mafia, Elsa Jay (1788)
Not_Mafia (1792)

Corwinoid:
Elsa Jay (999)
<Empty> (1354)

Not_Mafia:
Vivax (1067)
<Empty> (1095)
Alexcellent (1484)
<Empty> (1498)

geraintm:
Vivax (1095)
Vivax, gibus (1105)
gibus (1107)
<Empty> (1351)
Goldfish (1702)

Crescent:
Vivax (1107)
Vivax, Corwinoid (1116)
Vivax, Corwinoid, Goldfish (1167)
Vivax, Corwinoid (1205)
Vivax (1230)

Eiralox:
Goldfish (1205)
<Empty> (1215)

Elsa Jay:
Alexcellent (1498)
Alexcellent, Crescent (1526)
Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus (1587)
Crescent, gibus (1619)
Crescent, gibus, Alexcellent (1639)
Crescent, Alexcellent (1640)
Crescent (1651)
<Empty> (1657)

Day 3:

Vivax:
gibus (1856)
gibus, Eiralox (1915)
gibus (1950)
gibus, Elsa Jay (1979)
gibus, Elsa Jay, Not_Mafia (2043)
gibus, Elsa Jay, Not_Mafia, Eiralox (2054)
gibus, Elsa Jay, Eiralox (2144)
gibus, Eiralox (2148)

geraintm:
Eiralox (1879)
Eiralox, Vivax (1880)
Vivax (1915)
<Empty> (1986)

Crescent:
Corwinoid (1949)

gibus:
Eiralox (1950)
Eiralox, Vivax (2005)
Eiralox (2047)
<Empty> (2054)
Vivax (2126)
<Empty> (2149)

Not_Mafia:
geraintm (1964)
geraintm, Elsa Jay (2148)
geraintm, Elsa Jay, Vivax (2149)



DAy one:

NM : Alex, Fish, Corwin (2/3 conf town)

Cor : UNO, Vivax, Crescent, gibus (1/4 conf scum)

Cres : gibus, gera, eira (1/3 ct)

Gera : clidd, Corwin, Gb (2/3 ct)

Elsa: Alex, gibus, eira (2/3 ct)

Alex: GB, Elsa (1/2 ct)

UNO: Elsa, Cor, Clidd, GB (2/3 ct)

gibus: Elsa, Crsecent, Eira (1/3 ct)

GB: Vivax, NM, Eira, Alex, Cres, gibus, Vivax, UNO (2/7 ct 1/7 cs)

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:43 pm
by Eiralox
Day two:

gibus: Eira, Fish, Elsa, Cor, geraintm (2/4 ct)

Fish: Alex, gibus, Crescent, Cor, Elsa, geraintm (1/6 ct)

Vivax: Cor, Eira, NM, geraintm, Elsa Jay (1/5 ct)

Cor: Elsa

NM: Vivax, Alex (1/2 ct)

geraintM: Vivax, gibus, fish (1/3 ct)

Crescent: Vivax, Cor, Fish (1/3 ct)

Elsa: Alex, cres, gibus (1/3 ct)

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:48 pm
by geraintm
I think I follow, vivax has been on 4 votes 3 different times, and never got further than that?

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:49 pm
by Eiralox
numbers whacky D1 UNO is 2/4 and D2 gibus is 2/5. Day 3 incoming.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:09 pm
by Eiralox
Day three:

Vivax: Gibus, Eiralox, Elsa, Not_Mafia, Vivax

gearaintm: Eiralox, Vivax, gibus

Crescent: Corwin

Gibus: Eiralox, Vivax, Corwin

NM: Geraintm, Vivax, Elsa, gibus

Elsa Jay: Corwin

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:28 pm
by Eiralox
i'm not getting elsa's whoopy logic in paring me with gibus, esp as i voted gibus directly after elsa reveal re: prs? placing eira/gibus higher than eira/cres doesn't make sense data wise. cres seems town af anyway so meh.

Gibus voted both Tof and GB.
Vivax voted GB, stayed on Cres end D2.
Elsa vote Tof D2, stayed on Owen D1.

By votes alone i'll townread Elsa and no one else. Elsa's voting seems green, tho they haven't voted Crescent or Gera.



Vivax/Gibus have changed dramatically come D3, and this after they were both wagons D2 before Tof mobbing.

NoT_Mafia voting gibus and Vivax but still getting voted by Elsa? rn gibus and vivax are with Elsa on NM wagon sooooo idk.

Vivax and gibus only others who voted gera besides Eira. Gera has only voted for NM, currentlywith elsa, and with gibus and vivax, both who voted gera, and gibus naming gera straight scum(before swithcing to NM vote as well).

So i've said earlier I can see Elsa/Gera and can still see it, not as likely as Gibus/Vivax atm tho, townreading gera and elsa more than the latter 2.




i might say more later or mght not, who knows.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:30 pm
by Eiralox
gibus has since unvoted but point stands, there's data on that N_M wagon.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:40 pm
by Eiralox
if N_M and Gibus scum... only coubter-vote between 'em d3, with quick gibus unvote. onyl places they've voted together was on GB, and D3 on Vivax.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:52 pm
by Eiralox
corrections
In post 2241, Eiralox wrote:i'm not getting elsa's whoopy logic in paring me with gibus, esp as i voted gibus directly after elsa reveal re: prs? placing eira/gibus higher than
cres/gibus
doesn't make sense data wise. cres seems town af anyway so meh.

Gibus voted both Tof and GB.
Vivax voted GB, stayed on Cres end D2.
Elsa vote Tof D2, stayed on Owen D1.

By votes alone i'll townread Elsa and no one else. Elsa's voting seems green, tho they haven't voted Crescent or Gera.



Vivax/Gibus have changed dramatically come D3, and this after they were both wagons D2 before Tof mobbing.

NoT_Mafia voting gibus and Vivax but still getting voted by Elsa? rn gibus and vivax are with Elsa on NM wagon sooooo idk.
(NM never voted gibus my mistake)


Vivax and gibus only others who voted gera besides Eira. Gera has only voted for NM, currentlywith elsa, and with gibus and vivax, both who voted gera, and gibus naming gera straight scum(before swithcing to NM vote as well).

So i've said earlier I can see Elsa/Gera and can still see it, not as likely as Gibus/Vivax atm tho, townreading gera and elsa more than the latter 2.




i might say more later or mght not, who knows.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:56 pm
by Eiralox
And N_M unvoting Vivax when Corwin asked for it when I made Vivax -1..... why would scum N_M do that if if there's been so much talk about N_M policy elim early D3(and all game)?

Maybe N_M is playing 7d chess here but idk. Haven't heard from N_M, they're still off Vivax so *shrugs*

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:58 pm
by Eiralox
cos after N_M unvote and Corwin stating their big post was gonna clear vivax(or they felt sorta greener about vivax) the votes swung to N_M, among other a gibus vote.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:42 am
by geraintm
In post 2241, Eiralox wrote:i'm not getting elsa's whoopy logic in paring me with gibus, esp as i voted gibus directly after elsa reveal re: prs? placing eira/gibus higher than eira/cres doesn't make sense data wise. cres seems town af anyway so meh.

Gibus voted both Tof and GB.
Vivax voted GB, stayed on Cres end D2.
Elsa vote Tof D2, stayed on Owen D1.

By votes alone i'll townread Elsa and no one else. Elsa's voting seems green, tho they haven't voted Crescent or Gera.



Vivax/Gibus have changed dramatically come D3, and this after they were both wagons D2 before Tof mobbing.

NoT_Mafia voting gibus and Vivax but still getting voted by Elsa? rn gibus and vivax are with Elsa on NM wagon sooooo idk.

Vivax and gibus only others who voted gera besides Eira. Gera has only voted for NM, currentlywith elsa, and with gibus and vivax, both who voted gera, and gibus naming gera straight scum(before swithcing to NM vote as well).

So i've said earlier I can see Elsa/Gera and can still see it, not as likely as Gibus/Vivax atm tho, townreading gera and elsa more than the latter 2.




i might say more later or mght not, who knows.
you lead off with "i can't see their loopy logic", then townread someone and then say you can see them in a scum partnership with me.
there are lots of loopy logic going on....

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:45 am
by geraintm
In post 2240, Eiralox wrote:Day three:

Vivax: Gibus, Eiralox, Elsa, Not_Mafia, Vivax

gearaintm: Eiralox, Vivax, gibus

Crescent: Corwin

Gibus: Eiralox, Vivax, Corwin

NM: Geraintm, Vivax, Elsa, gibus

Elsa Jay: Corwin
So today Vivax has voted for 4 people
Eira for 3
Gibus for 3
Corwin for 3
Elsa 2
Me 1
Not Mafia 1
Crescent for zero

This is awful

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:54 am
by Umlaut
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