Kids in the Hall Mafia - Game Over, Daves are Supreme

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Lord Gurgi

[popsofctown]

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

[Amrun]

Post 207:

It was the tits Vote Count

scooby (9) Umbrage, Lord Gurgi, Untrod Tripod, Porochaz, vollkan, Kison, imaginality, DrippingGoofball

popsofctown (3) Amrun, scooby, Medicated Lain
Lord Gurgi (3) farside22, Lurconis, elvis_knits
Untrod Tripod (2) Mysterio, SpyreX
Porochaz (1) popsofctown
elvis_knits (1) VP Baltar


Not Voting: MrBuddyLee, Internet Stranger, Mist Beauty

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch or No Lynch

Post 208:

unvote, vote scooby

Sorry EK, I tend to overcorrect for omgus.


I dislike scooby's weak attack as well. Another thing inherently scummy about the "this group that group" stuff is that it's a scumhunting method that can actually be followed to the letter and still lose a game. Kind of a red flag in a way.

[popsofctown]

My eyes just jump over votecounts unless I think someone is nearing L-1. Usually someone has to say something

[Amrun]

That's really not a big deal to me personally. What bothered me was that you offered nothing new to the scooby case - and then when you unvoted, you didn't move your vote anywhere or show any original thought.

[farside22]

It seems to me like farside22 took Gurgi's meta vote on her too seriously. Why not just laugh off or ignore an early crappily weak meta read on her, if she's town? Her reaction fits better with scum with a guilty conscience.

I already said I took the comment seriously. There was a point in the game that became serious before LG so called lame meta read.

So it's not like Lord Gurgi started a theory discussion out of the blue.

No he's saying he has a meta read on page four with nothing to back it up. Can I throw out crap comments, tie in and a bow and call it a case too?

Please!!!!!

In regards to your Lurconis comments: The Lurconis comment isn't my read. I felt when I read it he was buddying me then realizing there was no case realized he had no where he could go.

Actually, I don't find LG's actions that scummy. All anyone's been able to prove is that he wasn't paying attention to the game. Farside's been far scummier. She's ignored the scooby case to keep attacking Lord Gurgi, OMGUS anyone?

I commented about scooby's theory. I'm not sold on the wagon and a lot looks like theory in my view. It seems people used what you said and jumped to a conclusion to me. LG for one\

Is this someone actually reading my guide and misapplying what it teaches you? Strange. I like the scooby wagon. Unvote: Farside22; Vote: scooby

Umbrage continues to be pro-town.

Added nothing to the conversation and looks to be riding coattails in this post.

unvote, vote scooby go go gadget wagon

I don't like the tone of his first srsface post. smacks of tryhardiness.

Adds nothing useful or indepth.

I don't get Porochaz point number 2

2. Demands. Saying Now. I don't like, the full stop after the now is intentional. If you demand me do something straight away I will post a picture of two cats having sex and thats it.

Volkan talks about how Scooby's theory doesn't work but doesn't explain why it's scummy

Kison just says it's horrible bad without expanding on what is bad or why.

and then this:

scooby 142: "scum want to look active in the breaking point" - I think this is projection on scooby's part: he's scum and wants to look active, and he's projecting that logic onto everyone else.
scooby 148: "Prove this. Now." This is very much a gut hunch, but that abrupt response sounds to me like it could come from scum happy to have found something they can legitimately challenge someone about.

Twist what scoobies doing into scum motivation. Then uses theory that comes from out of his ass.

Sorry EK, I tend to overcorrect for omgus.


I dislike scooby's weak attack as well. Another thing inherently scummy about the "this group that group" stuff is that it's a scumhunting method that can actually be followed to the letter and still lose a game. Kind of a red flag in a way.

And pops moves way up the scum train with this post.

unvote:
vote: Pops

In the few post when the case started. He said nothing about it. Suddenly, hey it's a BW let me jump on this BW with everyone elses reasoning!!!

Look up at this post to see the similarities.


town:
amrun
ek
scooby (I think that wagon was crap and scum was on there)
umbrage (unfortunately)

leaning scum between:

imagine/Lurconis

scum:
pops
LG
UT

[farside22]

mod

please fix quotes above. Thanks!

[SpyreX]

Farside you're speakin a lot of sense I approve

[farside22]

Farside you're speakin a lot of sense I approve

Every so often I surprise myself too.

[Umbrage]

This scooby wagon's speed and composure is bad and you should feel bad. What he was trying to SAY is okish even if its got some serious pants on head going on. Watching the leapers is a level of paranoia that makes me even MORE paranoid that no one seems to be paranoid about it.

Meh, I just thought it was standard RVS-ending WAGON HO! euphoria.

I think he probably was high. I don't think he made that up. But I also think he was serious about calling farside scum due to meta (off of almost zero info this game), then he voted her for the scummy meta reason (while high), then when people called that BS, he started to go "GUYZ YOU CAN'T BLAME ME I WAS HIGH LULZ."

Still doesn't explain how his actions make sense as scum.

unvote, vote scooby

OK, SpyreX was right.

I'm not sold on the wagon and a lot looks like theory in my view.

UNVOTE: scooby for now. I've got a feeling at least one of DGB, EK, and farside are scum.

[SpyreX]

If one of those three are and I'm not convinced of that by any stretch its DGB. EK and FS are town yo

[Amrun]

Agree with 235.

[popsofctown]

Am I gonna have to repeat every post I make? I didn't vote scooby at first because scooby was attacking me, and that made it harder for me to read her/him. I already said that. If you are going to complain about how late my move was, then say that my explanation is invalid or say you don't understand or whatever. Don't just skim my posts and call me scum and make me repeat my own broken record. Mafia game threads get clogged enough as it is.

And I tried to offer a glance into some of my own original thoughts in the post where i misvoted. You misinterpreted it: I meant that scooby's plan can fail FOR THE TOWN. But instead of asking for clarification your now just yelling that I had no original thought. Which apparently means the nonsense you thought it was is also a mistake other people have already posted in thread, I guess, otherwise it would be original phail.

[Amrun]

What does "scooby's plan can fail FOR THE TOWN" mean? Doesn't that assume that scooby is town himself?

And my point is that when you unvoted, you offered nothing.

[popsofctown]

The goal of the plan is to lynch scum. I was pointing out the plan could fail to reach its goal. That would make it a fail planned. A plan is a premeditated series of steps created in order to accomplish something. So if you don't accomplish that something, the plan is a failure.

THAT'S WHAT FAIL IS.

[shaft.ed]

I'll give you a toe Vote Count

scooby (6) Lord Gurgi, Untrod Tripod, vollkan, Kison, imaginality

popsofctown (6) Amrun, scooby, Medicated Lain, SpyreX, VP Baltar, farside22
Lord Gurgi (3) Lurconis, elvis_knits, DrippingGoofball
Untrod Tripod (1) Mysterio


Not Voting: Porochaz, MrBuddyLee, Internet Stranger, Mist Beauty, popsofctown, Umbrage

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch or No Lynch

[Amrun]

But the premise of this point seems to be that scooby is town presenting a plan that may fail.

[VP Baltar]

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

lynch this scumbag now. gets a vanilla claim and suddenly the lynch is no good anymore? YOU MAY AS WELL CLAIM SCUM NOW.

[vollkan]

Unvote

since L-1 and no scumpoints.

vollkan 177: "I don't think early meta is non-legit as a matter of principle. However, I can't think of a single early meta argument that I don't think is so weak as to be counterproductive." Even very weak reads early game aren't counterproductive - if nothing else, they start discussion and move things out of RVS.

Granted, but since basically any argument has the advantage of promoting discussion, that's not something I really consider to be relevant.

-Vollkan went professor mafia on Scooby telling him why his theory is crap, even though I think several people already did this. This wasn't horrible, but it made me tingle, and not the way that Kison makes me tingle. Reason is 1)Didn't add anything to convo; 2)If you're going to explain everything like the professor then tell me why you think his particular bad theory is more likely from scum than town.

1) I didn't think anybody had addressed the same issues as me, let alone in the same way. Umbrage had addressed the general Group A/Group B thing briefly, and gave his personal opinion that scum tend not divide up. I gave a more complete explanation of why I think the "all eggs in one basket" thinking is wrong. There's a difference between giving a separate, albeit largely concurring, opinion and simply repeating the arguments of others.

2) I actually pointed out in my previous post that I haven't assigned scooby scumpoints for this; maybe if it was later game, but I have a pretty wide RVS latitude

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

lynch this scumbag now. gets a vanilla claim and suddenly the lynch is no good anymore? YOU MAY AS WELL CLAIM SCUM NOW.

Scumpoints time.

VPB+5

Vote: VPB

Your argument here entirely ignores what pops said entirely and strawmans him to be saying "because scooby claimed vanilla, we shouldn't lynch him". That's very different from what it appears pops was doing, namely backing away from a rushed claim.

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

Since when do you need an intent to hammer when at L-1 for claiming? YOU ARE WITHIN IDIOT-QUICKHAMMERING RANGE.

In other words, pops is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Farside you're speakin a lot of sense I approve

Buddying noted - in case Farside flips town, SpyreX is auto-scum.

[VP Baltar]

Your argument here entirely ignores what pops said entirely and strawmans him to be saying "because scooby claimed vanilla, we shouldn't lynch him". That's very different from what it appears pops was doing, namely backing away from a rushed claim.

He's backing away because he got what he wanted out of that wagon. As a scumbag, it's much more useful to leave vanillas alive and try to out a PR day 1. Scooby did nothing to change pops' opinion of him. So why should he unvote? vollkan buddy, methinks.

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

lynch this scumbag now. gets a vanilla claim and suddenly the lynch is no good anymore? YOU MAY AS WELL CLAIM SCUM NOW.

Scumpoints time.

VPB+5

Vote: VPB

Your argument here entirely ignores what pops said entirely and strawmans him to be saying "because scooby claimed vanilla, we shouldn't lynch him". That's very different from what it appears pops was doing, namely backing away from a rushed claim.

But since it was not a rushed claim, and since pops is scum, your VPB vote puts you in the pops-buddy category.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scooby might still be scum. His lack of contribution post wagon-dissolution is unsettling.

[VP Baltar]

I'll win your heart back, baby. I'll leave a string of dead scums at your doorstep like a cat leaves bluejays. I'll win your heart back, baby.