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Okay, I literally just skimmed through that. I will confer with my other tommrow for a post.
We would like to collect the tile we flipped though (H4) We see that as fair since we flipped it, but we saw the post about asking so...
Anyway, this account is goin to be
Will post more fluetly tommrow
-GNR

↑ DCLXVI wrote:

↑ Robocopter87 wrote:This post is hypocritical. You come back here, and instead of adding or contributing to the conversation at hand, you say the obvious. This is the definition of fluff.

I re-affirmed that I find arugula scummy. That isn't fluff.

Low content certainly, but fluff...no.

And that post makes up for it? Because when you post fluff and then say it isn't fluff it doesn't mean its not fluff.

It was fluff. Don't even try and tell me it wasn't.

Who the heck needs to "reaffirm" they find someone scummy? If your vote is on arugula. Then you find him scummy. No "reaffirm" needed. Now go make content.

IceGuy: Am I scum?

DCL, you are tunneling me like crazy. After that whole escapade, all you have to say is QFT for one of IceGuy's horrible points on me?

Let me ask you this question: Do you think Amrun is town or scum?

And Robocopter, chill out. I'll post more when I'm not on my phone, but you haven't been a shining star scum hunter either. You mostly yell at others to do things you aren't doing yourself.

(meh, thought there'd be a VC already; oh well)


Post 223 - Eh, I've done it before (the leaving his vote on me thing), so I just assumed that's what it was.

IceGuy's refusal to back down from his bad case on Whispersilk and attempts to get Whisper to post a plan that he should've seen himself since he looks over her ISO is scummy as hell. Also, strange that at least two other people (three, including myself) have seen this plan that you insist isn't there, isn't it?



Post 228 - He has a point, though. Those two posts by DCL were shit.

Okay, just reading through.

@ MoI: everytime I play you think I'm playing like I did in MST3K. I guess you're warranted to be wary if you think that is the case. Regarding Hoopla, just because they're smart or make good points doesn't make them town. What was your issue with my draft pick plan?

Personally I don't like the take whatever letter thing. Like, I'd rather have an order in which we go, and when it's your turn you can go with whatever letter.

Regarding Arugula, he's just always like this. A bit clueless and stuff. Him coming up with a plan already made is something I'd expect. null. This also applies to his recent play.

Still good on my Hoopla vote atm.

Vijay, I might read MST3K sometime, but remind me about what you mean by that.

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:Vijay, I might read MST3K sometime, but remind me about what you mean by that.

Nothing really. I was scum there, so if he thinks I'm playing the same way then he should consider me a lynch target. But really don't. It's embarrassing..

But this isn't the first time he's referenced it and yeah. Idk if the game is still ongoing so I'll keep mum about it.

↑ Amrun wrote:IceGuy: Am I scum?

You're null.

EBWOP:

↑ Amrun wrote:
IceGuy's refusal to back down from his bad case on Whispersilk and attempts to get Whisper to post a plan that he should've seen himself since he looks over her ISO is scummy as hell. Also, strange that at least two other people (three, including myself) have seen this plan that you insist isn't there, isn't it?

Ah, the typical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.

↑ IceGuy wrote:

↑ Amrun wrote:IceGuy: Am I scum?

You're null.

Do you have any town reads? From what I've read, you've only expressed a handful of null or scumreads. Are you the type of player who doesn't do townreads?

↑ IceGuy wrote:EBWOP:

↑ Amrun wrote:
IceGuy's refusal to back down from his bad case on Whispersilk and attempts to get Whisper to post a plan that he should've seen himself since he looks over her ISO is scummy as hell. Also, strange that at least two other people (three, including myself) have seen this plan that you insist isn't there, isn't it?

Ah, the typical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.

This is not sitting right with me.

↑ Hoopla wrote:
Do you have any town reads? From what I've read, you've only expressed a handful of null or scumreads. Are you the type of player who doesn't do townreads?

I do townreads, but only when necessary. So far, they haven't been necessary.

Oh, and in the post above, the quote attributed to Amrun is one from whispersilk.

You know, just in case somebody calls me scum for "misappropriating a quote".

↑ IceGuy wrote:

Oh, and in the post above, the quote attributed to Amrun is one from whispersilk.

You know, just in case somebody calls me scum for "misappropriating a quote".

No, it was actually said by Voided.

You should've gone to specsavers.

Still no link to your supposed plan.

Eh. What about popcorning an order for collects?

We have 3 decent wagons atm. Arugula and whisper are superior to hooplas though.

More than half of us have already collected tiles. What would be the point in popcorning now?

Which 3 wagons do you think are decent?

In the future.

Ah I was reading on my phone and thought Hoopla was on 3 votes, not ICEguy. Not sure about his wagon. Yours and Argu's are decent (good), his is decent (sized) though.

↑ Arugula wrote:DCL, you are tunneling me like crazy. After that whole escapade, all you have to say is QFT for one of IceGuy's horrible points on me?

Let me ask you this question: Do you think Amrun is town or scum?

And Robocopter, chill out. I'll post more when I'm not on my phone, but you haven't been a shining star scum hunter either. You mostly yell at others to do things you aren't doing yourself.

Okay, I'll give you credit, your first sentence had a valid point. Even if I did just point out that point.

You asked the same question as the post above you but to a different person. Nice job.

I'm not frustrated or angry or anything, I'm just curious why you dig your heels in when you could easily put them in their place by proving it.

↑ AurorusVox wrote:In the future.

How would this benefit the town?

Ah I was reading on my phone and thought Hoopla was on 3 votes, not ICEguy. Not sure about his wagon. Yours and Argu's are decent (good), his is decent (sized) though.

In what way is my wagon good?

What do you think of the other two people voting for me, ie what are your reads on them?

↑ whispersilk wrote:

↑ whispersilk wrote:Where am I trying to mislead or impress anyone?

Can you please answer this.

You said I was posturing, and I've asked you twice to point out where I've done that. You've ignored me twice. Can you please answer me now?

Your wagon is good because you're scum.
Popcorning is a way of controlling the picking process without making it too beuracratic.
And you were posturing by claiming people to be "at best null" but not following it up with a vote OR calling anyone scummy. That's pretty obvious considering it's the post I voted you for.

LLD wrote: jesus fucking christ.

Why aren't we lynching Hoopla again?

Because no-one aside from you and Vijay think she’s scum.

I’ll ask you again – was your original “Flip and Collect in the Same Post” plan a reaction test or not?

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Vijay wrote: @ MoI: everytime I play you think I'm playing like I did in MST3K. I guess you're warranted to be wary if you think that is the case. Regarding Hoopla, just because they're smart or make good points doesn't make them town. What was your issue with my draft pick plan?

Um, whut?

We’ve played together three times. This game, MST3K (the original source), and another game. You do get by now that the last time I called you out for MST3K it was 100% a pressure test for you, correct?

You draft pick plan is bad because it ties up people in making lists to calculate the order of picking which doesn’t accomplish anything scum-hunting wise. It’s pure mathetmatical masturbation and removes the scum-hunting element for seeing players independently exercise judgement in how and when they pick tiles. Which is another level of scum-hunting.

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IceGuy wrote:Call it annoyance at being called out as "scum" with that "tell" and magically flipping as town every time.

Especially as that's just an incredibly easy "tell" to fake.

Ironically, I've never actually been scum and been called out for that.

Let’s see –

Are you saying as scum you throw your vote around more?
How is you not being willing to actually commit to a vote easy for me to fake again?
Lack of being called scum for something prior to this game doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid observation.

IceGuy wrote: Actually, I'm rather tempted to start a wagon on you now for your shitty reasoning.

But I know it'll turn out like in 70s Smalltown, where you attacked me with incredibly shitty reasoning, got lynched and flipped town.

The inherent “Iceguy knows MoI is Town” in this statement couldn’t be more clear. I’m not really worried about you ‘starting a wagon” but your implicit acknowledgement that you know I’m not scum makes me comfortable in voting you.

For those not in the know - That 70s SmallTown was a game we played together where Town-Iceguy helped to lynch Town-Vengeful MoI because I called out his play as scummy. Vengeful Town MoI went on to Vengekill scum Day 1. So Iceguy is specifically trying to remind me to 'back off him' despite forgetting he shouldn't be sure I am Town here unless he is scum.

VOTE: Iceguy

IceGuy wrote:If I would have seen a plan, I wouldn't have asked you. It's just not there.

This could not be more incorrect.

Here’s a direct link to Whisper’s plan which she correctly noted I called scummy when she originally posted it.

That you’ve made a centerpiece of your push on Whisper that said plan doesn’t exist despite multiple people telling you it did and the ease at which I found it via ISO shows you aren’t actually scum-hunting. And thus you need more votes.

Iceguy wrote:No, I'm saying that an unjustified Amrun townread early in the game is always a safe bet for scum.

Link to where you show that a Town read on Amrun is unjustified. I’ll be waiting …

↑ AurorusVox wrote:Your wagon is good because you're scum.

Other than your sole reason for voting me, why else am I scum?

Popcorning is a way of controlling the picking process without making it too beuracratic.

I know what popcorning is. I was asking how you think the process is going to benefit the town? Other than not being too beuracratic, what other real benefits are there for the town?

And you were posturing by claiming people to be "at best null" but not following it up with a vote OR calling anyone scummy. That's pretty obvious considering it's the post I voted you for.

Do you know what posturing means?

The post you voted me for contained reads on 4 people, including yourself. You're right, I didn't specify which of the three on Arugula's wagon I found null or scummy, but at least I gave my reads at the time on 4 people, and then followed that post up stating I would vote when I'd decided who I found scummiest. I also stated here, a few posts before that I was not in favour of RVS voting and I would vote when someone gave me a reason to, so I don't understand why this is such an issue for you, and enough to vote me over other players that have shown real scummy behaviour.

Other than calling me scum, can you point out where you've given your own town and scum reads?

Also, can you answer the part of my previous post that you've not answered. Thanks.