Mini 68, Homestar Runner Mafia (Game Over!)

[Saigon]

Look, if I am scum and I get Dirge lynched and he turns out to be innocent, I'll get lynched tommorow. Anyway you see it, it wouldn't make any sense to act the way I've been acting if I was scum.

I admit I've been using this game as a sort of psychological experiment and have been acting like an idiot, but I'm still shocked that Dirge (with the help of my stupidity) has managed to evade a lynch so long. Francly I guessed, either peopl would think I was scum right away and I would roleclaim or they would believe me and lynch Dirge.

By the way, Blackhawk. I think I'm the only one that can confirm your claim since I have access to Marzipan's messages, that's why I believed you right away day 1. So no, I'm not probably scum.

[rite]

By the way, Blackhawk. I think I'm the only one that can confirm your claim since I have access to Marzipan's messages, that's why I believed you right away day 1. So no, I'm not probably scum.

Whoa there, back up a bit. First of all, if you have access to Marzipan's messages, aren't there two who can confirm Blackhawk? Marzipan and you? Secondly, I request you tell us what his first message to Marzipan was, but NOT the second. We'll use that to confirm Marzipan later.

[d8P]

Saigon, you are definitely talking in circles, confusing people. Why? A psychological experiment? Fine.

if I am scum and I get Dirge lynched and he turns out to be innocent, I'll get lynched tommorow. Anyway you see it, it wouldn't make any sense to act the way I've been acting if I was scum.

You didn't investigate Dirge. Why should you get lynched? All you said was that he's suspicious. It certainly doesn't follow that you're scum if you're wrong.

And umm.... hello? Exactly what sort of uber-strong role do you have here?

[Dirge]

I do think that Saigon needs to stay in the game

if

he is actually town. He owes it to us to play for a town win and not give in.

That said, the more I go over the game the more I am convinced of his guilt. Here's why. It's not just his annoying play style but it's more his claim. We all assume that the mafia probably includes Strong Mad and The Cheat. Who would round out the third member of mafia? Normally it would be Strong Bad. But if as disucussed earlier he is not in the game the next logical choice would be Bubs. In the 'toons Bubs helps SB trick Homestar into getting drinks for everyone. He also suplied SB with all of the eggs and toilet paper for halloween. In one haloween 'toon Bubs went to the house that gave change 10 times. If any character qualifies as mafia in Homestarrunner.com Bubs does.

[gslamm]

Back Way Up!

Bub's having access to Marzipan's messages is just... well,, weird.

Get ready everyone. Especially Dirge

Unvote: Dirge

temporarily though I still believe he is scum.

I'm asking for everyone to unvote whoever your voting for until we get this all cleared up AND get complete roleclaims from everyone starting with:
Saigon<< what did Blackhawk send night one?
and d8p, then Me, and finally Rite.

I'm sure we can confirm all the pro-town roles this way.

[rite]

unvote: Saigon

Seems like a good enough plan to me

[Saigon]

Stop that this instant Gslamm. Everyone keep your votes where they are aor move them from Dirge to me or the other way around. Don't unvote anyone. I listen to Marzipan's messages using a souped up wire tap.

I don't know what Blackhawk sent day 1. And frankly I'm getting the feeling that I wouldn't tell you even if I knew.

Since you all seem to have so big problems figuring out how to lynch someone, let me show you the mechanics behind a lynch. A lynching is decided by a majority vote, you vote for the one you want to lynch, in this case me or Dirge by typing "vote: Saigon" or "vote: Dirge" in bold letters. At present you need 4, that's 1+1+1+1=4 votes on one of us for a lynching.

At present I would urge everyone not to roleclaim and vote me since that's the way things are going (even though I still have problems believing how stupid people can be). I'm saying this because even if I get lynched today I'm sure the town will win because you know who to lynch tommorow. So since I have to feed this into you with a teaspoon, It doesn't matter who you lynch or if you lynch the wrong guy. Just lynch someone...

NOW

[d8P]

Um....NO!



Saigon. Your judgement is really questionable here. You were odd, impatient, and supercilious at the start. I don't know how I or anyone came to trust you in the first place.

You have nothing to back up your conjecture except more conjecture. Your role claim is extremely suspicious. You're pushing for a lynch.

FoS: Saigon

You are not only saying things that are inaccurate but also things that are completely off the wall. If we lynch you there is no guarantee, assuming you're scum, that Dirge is innocent, or if you're innocent, that he is scum. Could it be that this is what you wanted to set up?

If you are pro town, then I'm sure there's a very good reason wrapped up in that role of yours for your behavior. Otherwise it is just that you don't want to play. If you don't want to play, ask to be replaced.

I'd much prefer to hear that this was something to do with your role.

[Saigon]

1. I was pushing for a lynch. Either way is fine with me.

2. You have a very good point about the asking to get replaced part. I'm acting extremely agressive against everyone lately. I guess I'm not even capable of playing a normal mafia game without biting the head of anyone who says anything I don't like. So maybe I should get replaced here and refrain from joining any other mafia games for a while untill I get my love life back on track

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I just wanted to add that I do want to play but I'm obviously incapable of doing so when I get as irritated by everyone and everything as I do now. So Strong Bad, could you find a replacement for me, please?

I apologice about my behaviour.

[blackhawk]

vote:Dirge

he hasnt told us what us he does yet

[rite]

::shrug::

I think that it is obvious that whoever replaces Saigon is screwed. He has obviously made up an elaborate role claim, and is pointedly avoiding the question of what blackhawk's first message to Marzipan was, because he doesn't know.

[Strong Bad]

Vote Count:

Dirge: 2

(blackhawk, Saigon)

Saigon: 1

(Dirge)

Not Voting:

D8P, gslamm, rite, Wacky.

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

[gslamm]

Strong Bad, could you find a replacement for me

, please?

Mod: Is Saigon being replaced?

It's hard to argue logic with someone willing to admit they are not acting logically.

Blackhawk: Please unvote Dirge for the moment. As much as I believe he needs to be lynched, I would like to clear up the Saigon matter AND get all role claims in the open before night falls.

[blackhawk]

unvote dirge

[Wacky]

What the hell? I have to agree with gslamm completely on this one.

Mod: Can we please replace Saigon with someone who wants to play?

[Dirge]

Who would want to replace him?
Saigon,you have the right to back out of this game if you want but I think that it’s pretty cowardly. At least you should finish this day so another player doesn’t have so much crap to clean up.

I think that it is obvious that whoever replaces Saigon is screwed.

That being said I’m not going to pull my vote off of Saigon. That person still has to answer for Saigon’s claims.

I would like to caution everyone against a mass role claim. Already we have four claims out there. Why do we need more? gslamm, what do you hope to gain? I don’t know why you would want to risk exposing marzipan and potential docs or cops. We already lost one investigator (coach Z).

I think that we ought to consider what we have now. I’ll recap. You can be the judge if I am objective.

D1, both Wacky and Blackhawk made similar pro-town claims that could be confirmed or denied by Marzipan. D2, no denial by anyone and

most

of us think that Marzipan should not reveal herself.

I am fhqwgads, a popular reoccurring character, much more so than Eh, Steve and the Talking Wheelchair. I have said that I am willing to use my one time ability to clear my name if necessary. I have been accused of appearing suspicious yet no one has illustrated that suspiciousness.

Saigon has claimed Bubs. In the absence of Strong Bad he is the most likely character to complete a mafia trio. He has made an outrageous role claim. "I'm not a traditional doc, and I have other abilities aswell". He says that he has "access to Marzipan's messages". The problem with this is that we already have two people with access to her machine. Why would we have three? That would mean that these four players could possibly confirm each other’s innocence. That is pretty positive for us! But, isn’t that unbalanced for a mini game?

I think that the choice is Saigon. Unlike others, I am not trying to tell you what to do I am giving you my opinion.

We have enough to deal with now without having everyone role claim.

[Saigon]

Mod: Can we please replace Saigon with someone who wants to play?

Saigon,you have the right to back out of this game if you want but I think that it’s pretty cowardly.

I said I wanted to play, and I'm only quitting for the good of the game, not because I don't want o get lynched. I've already stated that I'm convinced the town will win even if I'm lynched, but I'm strongly opposed to a mass-roleclaim.

He says that he has "access to Marzipan's messages". The problem with this is that we already have two people with access to her machine.

Actually I think this is the MOD's version of "rumours" so it's quite logical that a few have access to them, but how do you know Marzipan is even in the game. I just find it a little strange that I could listen to her messages if she was there to play them. I get the feeling Marzipan isn't in this game, why are everyone convinced that she is?

[Wacky]

Um.. because it's her machine?

[Saigon]

How does Marzipan exist when (I'm guessing) her father doesn't?

Just because a character isn't in the game doesn't mean she doesn't exist in theory. The mod might have decided that for this game Marzipan, the poopsmith, the king of town and so on, are out of town or just aren't in themselves important in the plot of this game.

All the people that have been mentioned on www.homestarrunner.com aren't in this game, but that doesn't mean they don't exist in theory. I'm not saying Marzipan isn't in this game, just that it's possible that she isn't.

[gslamm]

gslamm, what do you hope to gain?

That would mean that these four players could possibly confirm each other’s innocence. That is pretty positive for us!

I think you answered your own question.

The problem with this is that we already have

two

people with access to her machine.

Two? Not counting Saigon? Care to explain?

Saigon: Prove that you have access to Marzipan's messages or be lynched.

[Dirge]

That was a pretty sloppy use of the quote box gslamm. Not only were those two lines not from the same paragraph you didn't even bother to show your edit.

Two? Not counting Saigon? Care to explain?

I did.

D1, both Wacky and Blackhawk made similar pro-town claims that could be confirmed or denied by Marzipan.

Just to be clear...
1. Blackhawk
2. Wacky

[gslamm]

Yeah I can see how that could be considered sloppy. I however am not twisting your words I'm only pointing out what I'm refering to. If anyone doubts that they can go back and read the original.

It seems like either you misunderstood me or are intentionally dodging the question.

You mentioned 4 townies being able to clear each other. Wacky and Blackhawk are two, Marzipan makes three. Who is the forth? That is what I'm after with the mass claim. (although I'm hoping for 5) How can that be bad for the town?

[Dirge]

It seems like either you misunderstood me or are intentionally dodging the question.

You mentioned 4 townies being able to clear each other. Wacky and Blackhawk are two, Marzipan makes three. Who is the forth?

I am neither misleading nor dodging any thing. You on the other hand are only reading what you want into posts. I was very clear as to who the four are.

He says that he has "access to Marzipan's messages". The problem with this is that we already have two people with access to her machine. Why would we have three? That would mean that these four players could possibly confirm each other’s innocence.

That's a potential four player mason group in a twelve player game! Marzipan, Pom-Pom (the Lady's Choice), Homsar and now Bubs.

[gslamm]

Or maybe again I'm just seeing things from a different perspective than you again. I also have a problem with Bub's having access to the answering machine, but for a different reason. Add that no proof of this has been produced...

Can the remaining players at least give their feelings on my plan to get all claims out before night?

[d8P]

Sure.

Suspicious.