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In post 174, ² wrote:

In post 165, A_Stone wrote:You've only done it once, I feel stupid now :/

At least you're being honest about your exaggeration now.

- b

Yeah, sorry guys, I legitimately thought you did it a lot :/, we live and we learn.

In post 175, ² wrote:It is coherent already, but I'll rephrase it in a way I think you'll understand. If you base your vote on my avatar, it's not random. If you insist that a vote can be random when it's based on something (it being an avatar or an estimation of an alignment), I can just as well insist that my vote is random when it's based on my estimation of your alignment.

- b

Oh, I see what you mean now.

My vote was a joke vote, a joke is not inherently serious, and therefore it is random.

Why would a joke vote be serious?

In post 176, ² wrote:This is backwards.

If it is advantageous for scum-us not to random vote because we havn't done it as town before, that merely reflects you being incapable of properly analysing previous games that we've played. That is, you're not applying the information you have optimally. This holds true for any circumstances where the lack of that very information would leave to a better decision than the decision made with the information available, and this is an example.

- b

I meant it more as if you had posted an RVS, you would have been playing against your established meta and it would have raised more heads than was optimal for Scum-2. Whereas having not done RVS it was pretty much understood as a null read because you always do it.

In post 182, ² wrote: Firstly, I was responding to RedCayot, not SoaT. Secondly, even if I was responding to SoaT, I may not have realized what the abbreviation meant because I was responding to the person through the quote of another person (i.e., I didn't make that abbreviation myself).

Yeah, I know that, my post snipping was a bit rigid :/

In post 182, ² wrote: Finally, and most importantly, what would the scum motivation for acting as if I don't understand that abbreviation if I actually did be?

It looked off to me? I thought it was unnecessary, it was obviously a player and I didn't see why it needed to be asked.

I didn't say it was necessarily scummy, I just saw no reason to ask it.

In post 182, ² wrote:
I think you're pretending to think that you've found something to launch some sort of attack on us. I think your process went something like this: you read all of our posts in ISO, and decided to attack anything you could find. You noticed this and thought "hey, this could be a great thing to attack" without thinking about whether it actually made any sense from a scum perspective. Why did you do that? It's a subtle scum-slip, but people make it all the time. As scum, they forget the fact that your motivation shouldn't be winning arguments, launching attacks or finding mistakes, but look at posts that can only be motivated by a scum perspective. You fall victim of a) launching an attack that completely ignores what potentially would be scum motivated and what wouldn't, b) aims at finding mistakes (such as me not realizing what SoaT was an abbreviation of - despite it being obvious that there couldn't be any scum motivation for pretending to have missed this), and possible c) aimed at winning arguments (although this one is more debatable).

Thank God that isn't what I was doing.

In post 190, ² wrote:
Buldermar and I don't consult each other on every single post. We are playing this game as though we're masons who share a single vote. When we are speaking for each other or speaking about our consensus about game events or players, we'll make that clear. When we are not speaking for each other, we'll try to make that clear as well.

We are in agreement about our vote.

-f

Oh.

I guess that makes sense :3

In post 183, ² wrote:

In post 165, A_Stone wrote:Seems off to me. It was obviously a player, why did the question need to be asked?

It wasn't obvious to me, or I wouldn't have asked it. Again: what's the scum motivation behind pretending not to know what it meant? Why would scum-me be less likely to know what it meant than town-me? These are two questions that must be answered in order to justify you thinking that it "seems off". If you don't answer these questions, I'm inclined to think that the "seems off" part is just putting seeds out there and hoping that people jumps on this.

- b

But you asked it after seeing this

In post 144, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Then, followed by this to SoaT, who was already giving me scumvibes:

In post 123, ² wrote:I think I've made it pretty clear already what I want you to do, and I don't buy that you've somehow missed it.

I suppose a more apt word for what I meant by off was *interesting*

I thought that after seeing this post, and other posts mentioning soat, you would have garnered the meaning of soat.