Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:09 am
~Sugar....
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
This is the first post from Sugar Cain that has given me any real sense of town motivation.In post 193, Sugar Cain wrote:Come on Ffery, step up your game. stop slipping
TIP, it's TVT neither of us are scum and my partner is too stubborn to see that they are town.
Nero is currently trying to convince me otherwise
Nero always comes off as trollish, that's how he plays the game. Surprisingly, he is able to use that kinda play to catch scum and he's a fairly decent player
As for Hydra head unification, my pride in that is circumstantial to each head. right now, I only have one Hydra where I would prefer to be called out as the hydra name rather then the separate players, the one with Mala might be going down that road as well.
I'm uncomfortable because I'm not agreeing with a fair amount of what Nero is doing.
as for us being scum because we are putting out vote on TIP, what makes you think he's town?
He's already tried to accuse me of voting him due to a disagreement that I had in regards to LaL then, when he realizes that his mis-rep on my account is false, he's tried to reconcile with Nero (which never works, he has a heart of steel)
Nero believes that Scum tunnel more then town... which I don't agree with, and most of his stuff afaik, is more to the fact that you guys are being Anti-town rather then Pro-town
~Sugar
Pedit: you still believe that he's town Ineffective?
Your thoughts?In post 206, Aeris wrote:I want to see neros response to the case before I say anything.
So, tip is a super newbie who might just not know how to play mafia. Not an insult by the way, just an observation. My reason for voting him might not be valid.
I'd happily lynch the maestro slot though. I don't trust this much thread avoidance.
UNVOTE:
I'll get back to this tomorrow.
Do you know what fence-sitting means? Going after someone immediately is not fence-sitting. Thinking you were scum because you made a scum post, but then realizing that you so mind numbingly new that you just might not know what you're doing at all, and therefore might not be scum is not fence-sitting. That's called actually trying to get a read on someone. Waiting to see someone's reaction to get a better read is not fence-sitting. So you might want to not use words when you don't know what they mean. Just a tip.In post 223, TheIrishPope wrote: I do not find them scummy, I only find them not townie. And dunno, she's been fence-sitting the entire game,
Hmm...In post 230, Aeris wrote:Do you know what fence-sitting means? Going after someone immediately is not fence-sitting. Thinking you were scum because you made a scum post, but then realizing that you so mind numbingly new that you just might not know what you're doing at all, and therefore might not be scum is not fence-sitting. That's called actually trying to get a read on someone. Waiting to see someone's reaction to get a better read is not fence-sitting. So you might want to not use words when you don't know what they mean. Just a tip.In post 223, TheIrishPope wrote: I do not find them scummy, I only find them not townie. And dunno, she's been fence-sitting the entire game,
Oh and just so you know, giving a reads list and doing nothing else, is not actually scumhunting so you might want to stop tooting your own horn when you haven't been doing anything.
from what I know of Nero, he tends to be rather aggressive and trollish when town. if he's not engaged and putting himself out there, he's less likely to be town.In post 155, NoEffenCllue wrote:Sugar Cain initially caught our eye because although they had made a fair number of posts compared to other players, we could see nothing in those posts that reflected a town motivation. Cain comes off almost trollish, and Mara looks uncomfortable to my eye. There is no effort to make this hydra look seamless, which is something I've noticed she takes pride in doing with other hydras, to the point where she gets angry about being addressed by her main name. And in post #57 Mara put down a vote on a pitifully easy lynch candidate, TIP.
OMGUS isn't a scum tell. What bothered me and I'll have to go back and check the argument is that he suspected you guys I think for piggy-backing, but didn't say anything when Empking followed me onto TNE.NEC wrote: Post #81 jumps to a conclusion about the reason for our vote, calling it a piggy-back Though a little more sophisticated than the garden variety, this post reeks of OMGUS.
This isn't an alignment tell. it's a personality tell.NEC wrote: Post #85 comes off...creepy. "I want to kill", not "I want to vote" or "I want to lynch". It's usually a scum mindset that phrases things this way IME.
I'd have to check to see if Nero was posting on site during that time. I dont really know much about MM, but this is a fair assessment.NEC wrote: Post #90 he reiterates the false reasoning about our vote decision.
We spar for a couple more posts, and then Cain disappears. And we hear nothing from Sugar Cain until nearly 48 hours later.
Post 129 is then made by Mara. The tone of this post is conciliatory. It comes off as a buddying effort to me, and I was the ostensible target, with maybe a little divide and conquer thrown in for good measure. And she moves their vote off us an back onto TIP.
I called Mara on her claim that I was playing to my town meta.
She came back with stuff about subtle meta, claiming that my "paranoia" was familiar from the polygamy game. And yes, I was paranoid in that game. I was playing with a bunch of people for the first time, and I didn't like the nightless game format. In this game, I am not a cloud of free floating paranoia. I am focused right now on one slot that first raised my suspicions, and then did not disappoint once the chase was up.
from what I know of Nero, he tends to be rather aggressive and trollish when town. if he's not engaged and putting himself out there, he's less likely to be town.In post 155, NoEffenCllue wrote:Sugar Cain initially caught our eye because although they had made a fair number of posts compared to other players, we could see nothing in those posts that reflected a town motivation. Cain comes off almost trollish, and Mara looks uncomfortable to my eye. There is no effort to make this hydra look seamless, which is something I've noticed she takes pride in doing with other hydras, to the point where she gets angry about being addressed by her main name. And in post #57 Mara put down a vote on a pitifully easy lynch candidate, TIP.
OMGUS isn't a scum tell. What bothered me and I'll have to go back and check the argument is that he suspected you guys I think for piggy-backing, but didn't say anything when Empking followed me onto TNE.NEC wrote: Post #81 jumps to a conclusion about the reason for our vote, calling it a piggy-back Though a little more sophisticated than the garden variety, this post reeks of OMGUS.
This isn't an alignment tell. it's a personality tell.NEC wrote: Post #85 comes off...creepy. "I want to kill", not "I want to vote" or "I want to lynch". It's usually a scum mindset that phrases things this way IME.
I'd have to check to see if Nero was posting on site during that time. I dont really know much about MM, but this is a fair assessment.NEC wrote: Post #90 he reiterates the false reasoning about our vote decision.
We spar for a couple more posts, and then Cain disappears. And we hear nothing from Sugar Cain until nearly 48 hours later.
Post 129 is then made by Mara. The tone of this post is conciliatory. It comes off as a buddying effort to me, and I was the ostensible target, with maybe a little divide and conquer thrown in for good measure. And she moves their vote off us an back onto TIP.
I called Mara on her claim that I was playing to my town meta.
She came back with stuff about subtle meta, claiming that my "paranoia" was familiar from the polygamy game. And yes, I was paranoid in that game. I was playing with a bunch of people for the first time, and I didn't like the nightless game format. In this game, I am not a cloud of free floating paranoia. I am focused right now on one slot that first raised my suspicions, and then did not disappoint once the chase was up.
Nah.In post 231, TheIrishPope wrote: Hmm...
This response is interesting.
It did seem to me that you were choosing your moments and being opportunistic to strike, but now I kinda see them coming from town. I am not doing anything else at the moment; people are catching up and barely posting. For example, you are not scum. So I now have new insight and I can look into other people.
Restating my question for Aeris.In post 235, TheIrishPope wrote:Is there anyone else who kind of bothers you in their play?
FIFY!!!In post 240, BBmolla wrote:hola drama king
Emp plays like this regardless of alignment so he's nothing more then a shot in the dark.In post 232, Aeris wrote:but didn't say anything when Empking followed me onto TNE.
I was but I don't see a difference between this and NEC going long periods of time without responding to me.In post 232, Aeris wrote:I'd have to check to see if Nero was posting on site during that time
Why should I? In my qt TNE was one of the 4 players that I listed as possible lynch candidates today. Mara claims this looks more like his town play then his scum play and I haven't researched him yet. On TIP, I don't even know what the case on him is. I've asked Mara to summarize it for me but you are anyone can do that for me.In post 233, Aeris wrote:He should be having a field day with TIP and TNE and he's not
Emp plays like this regardless of alignment so he's nothing more then a shot in the dark.In post 232, Aeris wrote:but didn't say anything when Empking followed me onto TNE.
I was but I don't see a difference between this and NEC going long periods of time without responding to me.In post 232, Aeris wrote:I'd have to check to see if Nero was posting on site during that time
Why should I? In my qt TNE was one of the 4 players that I listed as possible lynch candidates today. Mara claims this looks more like his town play then his scum play and I haven't researched him yet. On TIP, I don't even know what the case on him is. I've asked Mara to summarize it for me but you are anyone can do that for me.In post 233, Aeris wrote:He should be having a field day with TIP and TNE and he's not
What a shit post.In post 36, thenewearth wrote:I HONESTLY didn't know that empking was a part of this game ._.
Well this will be fun
What a shittier post. "Let's stop dicking around and instead go off topic so we don't scumhunt!"In post 42, TheIrishPope wrote:Well, let's get discussion started to do just that, Sugar.
Hello everyone, I am TheIrishPope! You may call me Irish, Pope, TIP, or any new nickname.
Question: Lynch All Liars, yay or nay?
In post 49, TheIrishPope wrote:Well, if no one wants to talk, I'll play some Pokémon.
If you don't post in 30 hours u is scumz.
As Maestro 2.0 I'm down.In post 51, Sugar Cain wrote:Also, we should play Civ V on steam one day Maestro.
...In post 75, NoEffenCllue wrote:hmmIn post 74, TheIrishPope wrote:I think only Maestro and Shana have not posted much...
What's up with that?
- f
^^In post 105, Empking wrote:Bad posting.In post 104, TheIrishPope wrote:This game is getting to a halt. I want to see some discussion.
I voted tne for shits and giggles. I'll retract my vote when we get serious, don't worry.
BUT THEY ARE KID. THERE IS PLENTY OF SHIT GOING ON, ALL YOUVE BEEN DOING IS POSTING ABOUT HOW NOTHING IS GOING ON.In post 127, TheIrishPope wrote:I don't have reads, again, because no one is posting. I can't formulate reads out of thin air.
LOLIn post 129, TheIrishPope wrote:But do you have proof?
Scum coachingIn post 163, NoEffenCllue wrote:TIP stop posting.
Its like you are asking to be lynched every time you post.
I dont think you are scum because you are always like this.
-i