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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:06 am
by Ghostlin
Saint's probably Town with his playstyle. Scum doesn't necessarily LIKE attracting the amount of attention Saint has, but it seems he's trying to play for more unpleasant player in the game.

Also, I find the whole 'hasn't posted since Monday' ironic considering there are people posting WAY less content than me in this game.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:43 am
by Nexus
“You haven't got a letter on yours. I suppose she thinks you don't forget your name. But we're not stupid-we know we're called Gred and Forge.” - George Weasley


Votecount 1.5:


Saint (3)-
Lord Mhork, penguin_alien, SafetyDance
TMTOLBTWNTOF (2)-
Amrun, Ghostlin
Lord Mhork (2)-
DeasVail, Saint
Ghostlin (2)-
fuzzybutternut, BROseidon
DeasVail (1)-
Jake from State Farm
BROseidon (1)-
RachMarie

Not Voting (1)-
TMTOLBTWNTOF, ArcAngel9,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 will end at 7am BST on Wednesday 12th June 2013.

DoctorPepper is v/la until 5th June. He can ignore the prod I sent him. My bad.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:46 am
by fuzzybutternut
Hey Amrun! :D

Jake, stop being scum for a second and look at what you're posting, please. It's shit.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:49 am
by Jake from State Farm
In post 227, fuzzybutternut wrote:Hey Amrun! :D

Jake, stop being scum for a second and look at what you're posting, please. It's shit.
It's actually not but since all you ever do in your games is post shit, you obviously have trouble telling what's good basically anyone who doesn't post like you is good posting

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:52 am
by fuzzybutternut
'cause that's definitely all I ever do. :roll:

Please, tell me what your case is again.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:52 am
by Nexus
Play nice, children.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:53 am
by fuzzybutternut
<3

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:54 am
by Jake from State Farm
In post 229, fuzzybutternut wrote:'cause that's definitely all I ever do. :roll:

Please, tell me what your case is again.
Gut

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:56 am
by fuzzybutternut
mm. Right.

You're overdue for a scum game, aren't you?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:58 am
by Jake from State Farm
Nope

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:53 am
by DeasVail
Oh Amrun!!!!!

Please save me from this madness.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:56 am
by DeasVail
In post 179, DeasVail wrote:In the post I linked you say that you can't explain gut, whereas here you seek to explain it in depth at the first opportunity. My current explanation for the difference is that who you are scum, so want to show how town you are by having reasoning. Show me why I'm wrong.
Jake, I'd like a response to this please.

Also what is your read of Arc, particularly from early in the game?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:01 pm
by DeasVail
Another thing, I feel like his defence of Saint could easily be applied to me in some of the things he says are scummy about me (e.g. reaction to SD's posts and townread on Saint), so I'm beginning to think that he's only attacking me because he decided to have me as a scumread and defending Saint because he decided to.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:15 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 236, DeasVail wrote:
In post 179, DeasVail wrote:In the post I linked you say that you can't explain gut, whereas here you seek to explain it in depth at the first opportunity. My current explanation for the difference is that who you are scum, so want to show how town you are by having reasoning. Show me why I'm wrong.
Jake, I'd like a response to this please.

Also what is your read of Arc, particularly from early in the game?
Somebody asked me what posts I found scummy. If that other game they asked me which posts I found scummy I probably would have been able to do the same. But nobody did.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:20 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 235, DeasVail wrote:Oh Amrun!!!!!

Please save me from this madness.
Why do people (not just you) kiss the ass of replacements. Let them read/post without any attempt at influencing them.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:32 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 129, DeasVail wrote:
FoS: TMT
for

Maybe I'll vote/elaborate/change my mind when I look at things more properly tonight.

PEdit: Ew you can be scum too.
I felt like I was fencesitting on the issue between Mhork and Saint.
In post 134, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 124, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Alright, I think you've sufficiently summarized and explained to me why Saint is scum, so I'll retract my townread on Saint.
*Hands you a piece of fence to sit on.* No one reverses their opinion this quickly. Do you have any conviction (in another game, I'd say 'balls') at all?
If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.

VOTE: Ghostlin
In post 222, Saint wrote:
In post 220, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Sorry for not posting, I only got out of the hospital a few days ago.

I'll make a catchup post in a few hours.
i went to the hospital a few days ago

that is not an excuse
Hospitalized for surgery. I don't have a smart phone, and I share my laptop.

Saint: your 211, where does Mhork say you're appealing to emotions?
In post 217, Saint wrote: I don't like AA saying "i'm going to post reads" and then not being here for 8 hours. If I don't see something in the next 12 I'm going to vote there, even if mhork is a great vote regardless of alignment for "acting" dumb
You're saying that's a greater scumtell than your whole thing on Mhork?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:35 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 240, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.
Flip flop is not a null tell. Flip flop means you've got inconsistent positions. Town have procession of reads and stances.

Scum are generally the ones that go 'gee, I don't know, this might be scummy.' :igmeou:

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:41 pm
by RachMarie
YAY Amrun ♥

Saint is unfortunately probably town based on his tantrums, but uggh would be good vig bait. Or a good PL if we are close to deadline but in general other than avoiding a NL situation, I am not really fond of PLs, I prefer to focus on finding scumz.

Since I am very familiar with the books, I figure there is probably a mafia PR (Voldemort) and probably 2 goons based on the number of players. The goons most likely would have Death Eater names. I could be wrong though, I know some mods mix it up a bit to make it less obvious.

but the part about one mafia PR of some sort plus 2 goons is a good guess I think based on having 14 players.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:42 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 241, Ghostlin wrote:Flip flop is not a null tell
I flip flop as town, so now what?

p.edit - you too? stop kissing ass of the replacements.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:43 pm
by RachMarie
uggh 13 not 14 but still 3 scumz is pretty common with 13 too.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:44 pm
by RachMarie
Jake I am a replacement too :P

As for the froofroo tween mhork and saint I see it as a t v t with elements of Viness from Saint.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:45 pm
by DeasVail
I've decided.

Unvote: Lord Mhork

Vote: Jake from State Farm


Ghostlin's not a terrible vote though.

PEdit: I disagree that flip-flopping is a scumtell, but the way that TMT did it was slightly scummy to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:58 pm
by Jake from State Farm
took you long enough Mr. Omguserson

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:14 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Is it just me, or is Jake more Aggro as scum?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:19 pm
by DeasVail
Have you played with him as scum?