In post 238, Infinity 324 wrote:Am I hammered yet?
That's not what I'm saying. Null means you have some scummy things about you, but not enough to make you scum.
In post 235, Zhero wrote:Reread the thread, and can still definitely see a mnem/pit team. Contrary to my last post, I'm okay with either lynch.
In post 206, Infinity 324 wrote:Hi guys, I agree that pitoli was scummy, but my role PM said I'm town, so :/
Actually I wouldn't be that opposed to my lynch because it would give lots of info
Big scumpoints here.
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This also flags me. Basically waiting for someone to make a case for him, and when Toomai obliges, switches gears from a Toomai vote to a 2birds vote accordingly.
Also as mentioned above, he seems to be casting a wide net, without really getting into many details.
VOTE: Infinity
It's called giving people townpoints for guessing my reasoning.
In post 234, Toomai wrote:228's "not scummy = town" and 231's "here's the case on Toomai, he's probably actually town" together are pretty bad.
Let me explain this better. At first I thught you were scum due to the two things I mentioned in addition to your posting being fake, which is why I was surprised 2birds didn't call you out on those things. When I was trying to find examples a faked posting, your posts seemed more towny to me. In addition, I saw the 2birds was overstating his early scumread on you so he may not have been able to notice future scummy things about you.
and all of a sudden I'm wondering whether you're new as opposed to scum.
To break down:
That's not what I'm saying. Null means you have some scummy things about you, but not enough to make you scum.
No. Believe it or not, null means null. This can cover a variety of circumstances, including "not having posted enough to be readable", and more relevantly "not posted anything which gives away their alignment".
I suppose you could proceed under an "innocent until proven guilty" mentality, but that would presumably be a binary system in which everyone is town until they're sufficiently scummy to be lynch-worthy; there still wouldn't be a 'null' in this.
To call one person null because they've dropped tells both ways, but another person town because they've dropped no tells is horribly inconsistent. I initially assumed this was just you being scum, except you charge forward with such conviction that I can only really attribute this to you being new.
It's called giving people townpoints for guessing my reasoning.
How. The. Fuck. Does. Guessing. Reasoning. Make. Someone. Town.? Scum. Can. Think. From. Town. Perspective. Too.. Good. Scum. Will..
In addition, I saw the 2birds was overstating his early scumread on you so he may not have been able to notice future scummy things about you.
I don't think you understand the purpose of over-stating the strength of a read early-game. It's a way of kick-starting a game in that awkward RVS stage when there's nothing to go on.
Your backtracking is still bad enough to be vote-worthy, but it's clear that some of what I've been voting you for is newb-motivated rather than scum-motivated.
