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In post 231, Marquis wrote:Oh hey, Feg is probably scum.

In post 219, Fegelein wrote:

In post 176, Toomai wrote:

In post 170, LnGrrrR wrote:

In post 152, Toomai wrote:I really want to post but I have nothing to contribute. I have weak, aggregate reads on four players and doubt the correctness of all of them.

Which four players? Why do you have the reads you have on those players?

JasonWazza: Slightly scummy because of what he's done so far (i.e. nothing but claim that he has a scumread and that he'll elaborate later). To be honest I feel like I should consider him null until he actually elaborates, but I feel his attitude about it (especially early on) is anti-town at best.
LnGrrrR: Slightly town because...don't know to be honest, it's mostly an aggregate of extremely slightly town posts.
Fegelein: Slightly town for the same reason as LnGrrrR (i.e. basically gut).
Squilly: Currently of the opinion he's newbietown, since I think someone with claimed offline experience would put a bit more work into learning how to be town online.

Easy reads apart fom maybe LnGrrrR. Also, how can something be extremely slightly? That doesn't make any sense.

In post 219, Fegelein wrote:

In post 218, Toomai wrote:I like the case on Stubbs, I'll think about it more while

I'm on V/LA for today

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Lazy.

penguin alien wrote:Stubbs, what's your rationale for voting Squilly-slot over JasonWazza?

Amrun wrote:In addition, I'd like to point out that he changed Rach out of "leaning scum" SOLELY because she produced a list of reads, which shows that he associates it with towncred.

Amrun wrote:-Stubbs produces reads list out of thin air

LnG wrote:@Stubbs, why did you ask Oriole if he was town in your first post? When have you played with him before?

In post 200, ChannelDelibird wrote: His reads list makes almost no sense at all. I can see no reason to have different reads on me and Amrun by that stage, for example. The oriole townread is weird - says he likes his readslist but it's quite different to Stubbs's and the rest of it is because he

wants

him to be town? That's the sort of thing you make up after the fact to explain your behaviour, not that you actually use to inform your reads.[/url] Then there's the fact that he even made a readslist at all -

the fact that he's offered no actual opinions or even actual suspicion up to this point

mean that he can't be held accountable for the internal process of his reads and the fact that it comes after two other people just did (one of whom he is calling 'leaning scum' in that very post) makes it look like he's doing it to fit in, rather than because he wants to voice his opinion.

This (to Jason) is what you say to someone you're null on who you want to talk so that you can get a read, not someone you already suspect is scum for not participating. If Stubbs were town here, he'd just be calling Jason scum.[/url]

In post 243, ChannelDelibird wrote:Do you disbelieve his reason for not having commented on anyone else?

In post 244, StubbsKVM wrote:

In post 243, ChannelDelibird wrote:Do you disbelieve his reason for not having commented on anyone else?

If his reason is correct, I'm wondering Why he replaced in at all?

In post 206, fferyllt wrote:
I did a comparison of Stubb's and oriole's reads lists after Stubbs replied to my question. I thought their lists had enough similarities to account for Stubbs liking the list. I wanted to wait for more interactions from both of them to see if clarification on the differences would happen, and who would initiate that. Oh well.

Some of your other points are pretty relevant. I have made comments in games about wanting a particular player to be town before. As town. I get flack for it, but when I think it could indicate some bias on my part I throw it out there. Players that I want to be town are usually the players I am most paranoid about.

One thing from metadiving stubbs for other games - he usually puts down pretty solid trajectories on his early votes/unvotes. Not seeing that here.

In post 208, fferyllt wrote:

Pedit: Oh, is that what you meant by timing? Makes a hell of a lot more sense.

Pedit2: You know you want to vote Stubbs nao, fery.

Yep. Checking vote count. And it's 3

Vote: Stubbs

In post 246, LnGrrrR wrote:@Stubbs, I think town has waited long enough for Jason to provide something. He hasn't really done anything this game at all; his last post with actual content was Tuesday. That said, Im pretty sure he is town, but the pack of content is frustrating.

Really not liking Fferry's vote on Stubbs. In post 206, she says:

In post 206, fferyllt wrote:
I did a comparison of Stubb's and oriole's reads lists after Stubbs replied to my question. I thought their lists had enough similarities to account for Stubbs liking the list. I wanted to wait for more interactions from both of them to see if clarification on the differences would happen, and who would initiate that. Oh well.

Some of your other points are pretty relevant. I have made comments in games about wanting a particular player to be town before. As town. I get flack for it, but when I think it could indicate some bias on my part I throw it out there. Players that I want to be town are usually the players I am most paranoid about.

One thing from metadiving stubbs for other games - he usually puts down pretty solid trajectories on his early votes/unvotes. Not seeing that here.

Mostly defense of Stubbs, with a slight "out" at the end. Then, post 207, Syryana says, "Pedit2: You know you want to vote Stubbs nao, fery."

To which Ffery responds in 208 with:

In post 208, fferyllt wrote:

Pedit: Oh, is that what you meant by timing? Makes a hell of a lot more sense.

Pedit2: You know you want to vote Stubbs nao, fery.

Yep. Checking vote count. And it's 3

Vote: Stubbs

If you actually felt Stubbs was scummy, why didnt you vote him post 206? Why defend his views, then turn around and vote him 2 posts later? Syr didn't even give you a reason to change your mind, and you didn't list any when you voted. Feels pretty scummy.