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@Syr, hey, plz come talk to me.

In post 224, Natirasha wrote:

In post 161, Skullduggery wrote: Why aren't you voting for Cabd if you think he's Scum?

Why does one have to vote for who they think is scum? Is my case any less valid?

This is ironic coming from me, but if you think he's scum and you think your case is valid, why not move your vote?

Is it because of the deadline mechanic?

Because I'm taking the slow path.

Well I'll vote him...

VOTE: Cabd

Seems a bit blustery.

Oh god dammit I have to play with TAM again.

Uhh the town's win con is definitely listed above

I can't tell if Syryana is dumb or scum

It's gonna be one of games, isn't it?

Disagreeing with bork that cabd is necessarily town for the win con stuff.

MY MOTHER WAS A GREAT MAN

I think I like ffery for town.

Sakura is probably scum.

Dislike bork's overreaction to ffery.

ffery why are you FoSing and not voting (though I do like that it's on bork)

notscience yes I am glad you have tuned into the ways of scumSakura this means I am not alone.

bork stop being so angry

psst ffery Sakura is scum there's no need to "wait and see"

bork I have no idea what "town guilt is", please walk me through it. Also notscience is town but for a different reason.

Hmm. Natirasha, I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning for scumCabd.

Actually I think I see it too but you're still welcome to answer that question.

Gaiden's T/S list is probably a goldmine if he's scum.

Seriously ffery why are you FoSing and not voting

Oh I guess the votecount thing was edited in.

Blah blah blah bunch of fluff

Dislike Cabd's "hmm" RE: the edit in

I agree with ffery RE: the scum knowing the town wincon.

OH LOOK TAM IS CONTRIBUTING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF VALUE TO THE GAME HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY READS YET

cabd ur a tree

While I don't necessarily disagree with the Gaiden push (the distancing thing early in the game between Sakura and Gaiden could have easily been a scumbuddy thing) I have a more solid scum read on Sakura.

I can't un-read Sakura as scum.

who pissed in your wheaties natirasha why aren't you voting for your damn scum read

Already dislike pitoli.



Everyone hop on!

"guess the votecount thing was edited in" -> "guess the win con thing was edited in"

In post 229, Iso wrote:"guess the votecount thing was edited in" -> "guess the win con thing was edited in"

Yes it was.

I'll vote when I have more data on a few players. I'm usually pretty slow to vote anyway, and it looks like the deadline mechanic may actually encourage my style of voting behavior.

You should vote for Sakura.

Yeah, Iso, fferylit's confirmed town due to the mod error pretty much unless we're assuming scum have fakeclaims w/wincons attached(which I don't believe to be the case based off previous mod meta).

And fine! If wants me to vote VOTE: Cabd.

Iso wrote:bork I have no idea what "town guilt is", please walk me through it.

I'm not following

Hint Iso, It's called being gone for an entire day and having stuff pop up left and right. Compare my post to your first post this game. And you're complaining that I have no game related content when I'm essentially at the same point you are?

Not like I complained about having "about 10 pages" posted while you were away and then went off to read through.

I gave a read through and promised an ISO. Haven't gotten to doing the ISO yet, My computer was being a bint last night. (that should answer your question Ffery.)

Now getting to work on that ISO, which should have
started last night.

Is it the actual moving of votes that depletes the battery, or is it just -1% every time the mod gets around to a VC?

that is hard to say. I first thought it as based on unvotes, but i think the third VC disproved that one. Voting must not have much of a visible effect since otherwise my RVS vote would have decreased it. Still trying to work it out.

Ok, Iso's done.

Bork: Not liking the use of language. Pretty much null, Many posts feels very little game related.

Cabd: Part of me wants to say scum. However, based on the self Meta provided... Might be best to figure otu his alignment early...

Ffery: Town. Very town.

Iso: Wow... your first post sounds way too much like my second. Hypocrite. I'll take a look at Sakura, so far I'm leaning town on you.

Natirasha: Good not sure if scum or troll. Hmmm feels like He and Cabd might be good lynches...

Notscience: Gut Town read. I want that explination though.

Pitoli: And that's the THIRD person I've been an IC or an SE for.
Not enough info. Null.

Sakura: Dislike, leaning scum. I can support this lynch.

Skullduggery: Probably town.

Gaiden: Meh, could go either way for me. I lean town though.

Syryana: Troll. Not sure if Scum or Town.



Town
Fferylt
Skullduggery
Notscience

Iso
Gaiden
Bork
Pitoli
Syryana

Natirasha
Cabd
Sakura

In post 232, Natirasha wrote:Yeah, Iso, fferylit's confirmed town due to the mod error pretty much unless we're assuming scum have fakeclaims w/wincons attached(which I don't believe to be the case based off previous mod meta).

How are you able to assume that "Hamil" isn't mentioned in the scum wincon?

Also unpack the Cabd read for me, Iso can do the same for Sakura because "hey guys sheep me" is not going to be an acceptable thing for me to do at this point in the game.

p-edit: I was in a shitty mood yesterday so sorry about all the f-bombs and whatever.

In post 237, The Acting Method wrote:Many posts feels very little game related.

Also, I resent this, explain how my posts are not game related.

In post 238, borkjerfkin wrote:How are you able to assume that "Hamil" isn't mentioned in the scum wincon?

Good point.

Also unpack the Cabd read for me

Caught the lack of town wincon, gambited ffery into giving it to him. Play is more ego-driven than usual(#52,#98). Starts attacking me aggressively--usually allows me to toy with him for a while. Flat out claims he hasn't gambited yet, when no matter how you look at it page one is something resembling one. Spent much of the day manipulating fferylit.

Flat out claims he hasn't gambited yet, when no matter how you look at it page one is something resembling one.

I do agree with this, but I want to talk about my next point:

In post 240, Natirasha wrote:Caught the lack of town wincon, gambited ffery into giving it to him.

This is kinda where I disagree hugely, and the more I think about it makes me think he's more town; I don't possibly know how scum-cabd could have known that there was a town wincon with specifically the name of a town in it (he was very specific in what he asked for) unless it was in his scum pm, but if he had a fakeclaim with that wincon or just had it listed somewhere else or however it manifests itself, I just don't think he even thinks to make that play. I know someone's going to come in here and say I'm underestimating him, but I don't think so.

Also if you go with a premise that Cabd is scum who somehow knew to ask about Hamil, you can't auto-assume ffery was town for knowing the answer. There actually is one case where that play from cabd-scum makes sense: if ffery is ALSO scum (in which case you argue that the scum PM does have Hamil somewhere in it). That's kinda tinfoil-hatty and I don't even want to go down that road unless we get a scum flip from one or the other.

But,
UNVOTE:
I feel like I am way out of tune with everyone right now overall. Forget the cabd-ffery interaction: I want to hear about ffery town in a vacuum because a lot of people are purporting that she is this.

In post 241, borkjerfkin wrote:This is kinda where I disagree hugely, and the more I think about it makes me think he's more town; I don't possibly know how scum-cabd could have known that there was a town wincon with specifically the name of a town in it (he was very specific in what he asked for) unless it was in his scum pm, but if he had a fakeclaim with that wincon or just had it listed somewhere else or however it manifests itself, I just don't think he even thinks to make that play. I know someone's going to come in here and say I'm underestimating him, but I don't think so.

A good point as well.

Also if you go with a premise that Cabd is scum who somehow knew to ask about Hamil, you can't auto-assume ffery was town for knowing the answer. There actually is one case where that play from cabd-scum makes sense: if ffery is ALSO scum (in which case you argue that the scum PM does have Hamil somewhere in it). That's kinda tinfoil-hatty and I don't even want to go down that road unless we get a scum flip from one or the other.

Shit would suck if Morph the Cat were in this game.

In post 233, borkjerfkin wrote:

Iso wrote:bork I have no idea what "town guilt is", please walk me through it.

I'm not following

what is town guilt

In post 234, The Acting Method wrote:Hint Iso, It's called being gone for an entire day and having stuff pop up left and right. Compare my post to your first post this game. And you're complaining that I have no game related content when I'm essentially at the same point you are?

Not like I complained about having "about 10 pages" posted while you were away and then went off to read through.

Given that I actually provided content upon my read, your play is not comparable to mine here. In short, go hump a cactus.

You said you actually read. I /confirmed because the mod bitched about me not confirming in the game thread and made a note that I would catch up later.

I did.

I said things.

You've said nothing, despite you apparently reading up to that point with "things popping up left and right".

Uh, duh?

It's Mafia. Get over yourself.

Glad to see you actually made a post with some reads, thoough. (Hypocrisy, my ass.)

In post 235, pitoli wrote:Is it the actual moving of votes that depletes the battery, or is it just -1% every time the mod gets around to a VC?

why aren't you scumhunting

In post 238, borkjerfkin wrote:Iso can do the same for Sakura because "hey guys sheep me" is not going to be an acceptable thing for me to do at this point in the game.

Why not?

What part of Sakura being scum have you not picked up on? Please read through their posts and walk me through the town motivation you see.

In post 243, Iso wrote:what is town guilt

again, what are you talking about

Oh hey, despite me trying to improve guess I'm always going to be D1's wagon huh.

In post 243, Iso wrote:What part of Sakura being scum have you not picked up on? Please read through their posts and walk me through the town motivation you see.

From what part of "explain your scumreads" do you get "I am townreading Sakura"?

@Sakura: I asked you a thing earlier

In post 241, borkjerfkin wrote:Also if you go with a premise that Cabd is scum who somehow knew to ask about Hamil, you can't auto-assume ffery was town for knowing the answer. There actually is one case where that play from cabd-scum makes sense: if ffery is ALSO scum (in which case you argue that the scum PM does have Hamil somewhere in it). That's kinda tinfoil-hatty and I don't even want to go down that road unless we get a scum flip from one or the other.

Cabd's been pretty damn blatant about it, so I don't see any reason to not to point out some of what's apparently going on here, but I'll wait for Cabd to respond I guess.

Then I'll lay out this gymkhana as I see it. Or not, depending.

In post 246, borkjerfkin wrote:@Sakura: I asked you a thing earlier

96 Is the reply to the most recent thing I've seen you ask me.

Whoops, yeah you did. That's reasonable.

follow-up: I've played with you I think on at least two separate occasions and you were not wagoned on D1 in either of them; do you actually get lynched D1 a lot?