Will get to it in a sec. I want to look over wayne's reads, but before I do that, I'll do this, and before I do this, I want to say that I do think wayne's town, although I admittedly don't know his play very well.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:46 am
by Psychlone
Mastin, I don't think I ever spoke to you directly before.
Hi!
Nacho didn't tell me much about it, but I believe it has something to do it with the way you broke the rvs flow, not the breaking the flow itself.
In post 223, waynegg wrote:I have muffin scum, BRO maybe scum (he's to envolved early, when he generally lurks the hell out of D1 as town). I have Varsoon and Pie as town. I think you're town unless thezmon flips scum. Morph I'm on the fence about. They come off town, but ffery does have that propensity to awkwardly scumclaim for her own lulz which is keeping me from saying they're town. Everyone else is in a holding pattern while I wait for more posting.
No. I scumclaimed because it helped me earn a day kill. I would never have made that post otherwise.
As indicated in the other post I linked to (I was town in that game), I'm pretty scrupulous about not explicitly saying "I'm town" when I'm town. I feel like having to call myself town means I'm doing something wrong. I let my in-thread actions speak for themselves.
Oh, a few random things here and there (things that are probably null and potentially even town, but still make me paranoid), but overall, basically nothing. It's mainly caution relating to townreading Varsoon too easily. I think he's town, but he's not a townread I want to put confidence into.
In post 97, Varsoon wrote:I'm also scum-reading zmuffin, but that's because I don't believe the PGO claim and I always scum-read zmuffin. I was even scum-reading zmuffin in Xenogears. I had to constantly check to make sure he wasn't on my team that game.
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In post 36, Venmar wrote:OKAY EVERYONE LISTEN UP, READ THIS POST BEFORE YOU POST.
Because it makes him think you might be scum. I don't know why that post pinged for him yet, though I have a sort of free-floating not-so-happy feel about you atm, too.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:08 am
by zMuffinMan
*shrug*
how much of that stems from paranoia and how much of that stems from actually thinking i'm scum?
would it help if i told you i'm town?
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:14 am
by morph the cat
In post 233, Psychlone wrote:Fery ur not even commenting on my iffy feeling on your post? :<
You know, I thought it was posts, not a specific post. And I thought that you didn't like that I was letting the game float along, and enjoying the early before-things-get-serious period of the game, when I usually push to make things serious faster.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:19 am
by thezmon221
Can y’all take a minute and recognize that I claimed a Cult Lyncher in the same post I voted Mastin?
In post 85, thezmon221 wrote:Isn't it clear? He's clearly trying to mount a mislynch so early in the game against an obviously pro-town player.
VOTE: thezmon221
Oh, and I'll usually remember to sign my posts; Ghostlin will probably use a non-black font color for his when he's not talking to the mod. And if there's cursing/yelling at people/being unsociable, that's also probably him...
--PA
PA you break my heart if you think I *actually* care about a clearly spam vote on me.
In post 85, thezmon221 wrote:Isn't it clear? He's clearly trying to mount a mislynch so early in the game against an obviously pro-town player.
okay why the hell is it I can't seem to tell if any of these posts are serious or not @_@
I was being frivolous. Or maybe it's a reaction fish. Granted, I didn't really expect it to garner much attention, but take it for what you will.
Might as well use those reactions, though. Bro’s post kind of sums things up decently well:
In post 120, BROseidon wrote:Regarding the second thing, I took what thez said to be a roundabout way of saying "I'm RVSing with OMGUS." In particular, I'm cueing in on the word "obviously" as an indicator of sarcasm. The fact that penguin (and a few others) have latched onto that seriously is concerning.
In post 103, Varsoon wrote:Or a proper evaluation of play and agreement with the currently building wagon in a way that simultaneously puts pressure on the slot but doesn't put it in danger of being a lynch?
In post 134, Varsoon wrote:Actually, yeah, fuck it, I've just amassed a WAY better case against you, pieguy. zmon very well might be scum, but I think you're scared of the idea of Town-varsoon crushing you. I know that I'm an easy mislynch early, and you could probably pull it off, but you've tripped over yourself trying to do so, and I've exposed you.
Can you please explain your case on me? All I've gathered is, "Bro, you OMGUS'ed Mastin in a sarcastic light, which is scumfuck."
In post 85, thezmon221 wrote:Isn't it clear? He's clearly trying to mount a mislynch so early in the game against an obviously pro-town player.
VOTE: thezmon221
Oh, and I'll usually remember to sign my posts; Ghostlin will probably use a non-black font color for his when he's not talking to the mod. And if there's cursing/yelling at people/being unsociable, that's also probably him...
--PA
PA you break my heart if you think I *actually* care about a clearly spam vote on me.
In post 85, thezmon221 wrote:Isn't it clear? He's clearly trying to mount a mislynch so early in the game against an obviously pro-town player.
okay why the hell is it I can't seem to tell if any of these posts are serious or not @_@
I was being frivolous. Or maybe it's a reaction fish. Granted, I didn't really expect it to garner much attention, but take it for what you will.
Might as well use those reactions, though. Bro’s post kind of sums things up decently well:
In post 120, BROseidon wrote:Regarding the second thing, I took what thez said to be a roundabout way of saying "I'm RVSing with OMGUS." In particular, I'm cueing in on the word "obviously" as an indicator of sarcasm. The fact that penguin (and a few others) have latched onto that seriously is concerning.
In post 103, Varsoon wrote:Or a proper evaluation of play and agreement with the currently building wagon in a way that simultaneously puts pressure on the slot but doesn't put it in danger of being a lynch?
In post 134, Varsoon wrote:Actually, yeah, fuck it, I've just amassed a WAY better case against you, pieguy. zmon very well might be scum, but I think you're scared of the idea of Town-varsoon crushing you. I know that I'm an easy mislynch early, and you could probably pull it off, but you've tripped over yourself trying to do so, and I've exposed you.
Can you please explain your case on me? All I've gathered is, "Bro, you OMGUS'ed Mastin in a sarcastic light, which is scumfuck."
how much of that stems from paranoia and how much of that stems from actually thinking i'm scum?
Wasn't that long ago that I posted a reads list that had you in my townpile IIRC. The main reason I put you there was because of your observation about my play. It's not exactly a secret, though, that I tend to townread people who are suspicious of me when I like their reasoning.
would it help if i told you i'm town?
What usually helps is seeing town motivation in in-thread behaviors. And that's a body of work.
In post 233, Psychlone wrote:Fery ur not even commenting on my iffy feeling on your post? :<
You know, I thought it was posts, not a specific post. And I thought that you didn't like that I was letting the game float along, and enjoying the early before-things-get-serious period of the game, when I usually push to make things serious faster.
I thought about it when zmuffin mentioned it, but cabd took over during the period where you should be stepping up, and I never
cared
thought about how he usually do his opening, so meh.
What I had problem with was something different.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:48 am
by morph the cat
The fuck have I stepped up in? I've been a non presence.
Spoiler: All cabd posts so far
In post 41, morph the cat wrote:That's a great idea, wayne, and imma let you finish, but this morphgame had the best scum claim of all time:
In post 233, Psychlone wrote:Fery ur not even commenting on my iffy feeling on your post? :<
You know, I thought it was posts, not a specific post. And I thought that you didn't like that I was letting the game float along, and enjoying the early before-things-get-serious period of the game, when I usually push to make things serious faster.
I thought about it when zmuffin mentioned it, but cabd took over during the period where you should be stepping up, and I never
cared
thought about how he usually do his opening, so meh.
What I had problem with was something different.
If you want me to address it you're probably going to have to tell me what it is.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:54 am
by Psychlone
Its prob waaaay off timing but whatever.
Should've done it yesterday, but I was having too much fun with my modem and stuffs so
Dammit, ffery. (That's you, right?) It's going to be hard keeping you out of my scum list if you keep posting like
this
.
You can put me in your scum list if you want. Won't change my alignment.
This looked like you were frozen in ice, which is stuff that I don't usually feel from you.
Prob would've voted you for it but I missed it the first time.
So I've been hinting that I wasn't townreading you and you didn't respond at all.
Were you purposely ignoring it or did you not pick up on my hint?
P-Edit: that's what I said. Cabd was posting at the timing where you would've step up.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:55 am
by waynegg
Cabd and I see things very differently and still reach the same conclusions eventually. I don't see anything to be sad over. Enlighten me?
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:56 am
by Psychlone
So since cabd was posting at that time, I took not leading out of rvs as null.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:05 am
by morph the cat
In post 246, Psychlone wrote:Its prob waaaay off timing but whatever.
Should've done it yesterday, but I was having too much fun with my modem and stuffs so
Dammit, ffery. (That's you, right?) It's going to be hard keeping you out of my scum list if you keep posting like
this
.
You can put me in your scum list if you want. Won't change my alignment.
This looked like you were frozen in ice, which is stuff that I don't usually feel from you.
Prob would've voted you for it but I missed it the first time.
So I've been hinting that I wasn't townreading you and you didn't respond at all.
Were you purposely ignoring it or did you not pick up on my hint?
P-Edit: that's what I said. Cabd was posting at the timing where you would've step up.
We haven't quite been synchronous in-thread since you started hinting so I've been kinda waiting for synchronicity to happen.
That's at least two players who didn't like my comment, so it will probably wind up on my "don't say stuff like this at MS" list.
But, it's exactly sort of "true no matter what my alignment" comment that I tend to make when I'm not worried about how it's going to be taken. Nacho can probably figure out what the timing and game state mean given when I posted that, and the sort of stick-with-truth statement that I'm likely to make when I feel cornered and don't want to lie.
