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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:29 pm
by Thor665
Mod - v/la 2/11-2/14


I may manage some posting in there, but with the way my work schedule is...

@TSO - I'm pretty sure I stated the logic about Zek already, so look at my ISO again. If I didn't I'll be back later to answer the question, but if I answer it by quoting myself expect a lot of mocking.

I found Bulba putting me at a 'Dunno' read to be townish of him.
I found his flip out on TSO to be scummish.
Meh...probably hold my scum read there.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:48 pm
by BROseidon
In post 177, XScorpion wrote:I don't think that the push against cxin is bad (I pretty much agree w/ Thor in 117). Re: 121 - Do you think cxin is competent town? Incompetent town? Scum?
looks like incompetent to me. Gonna give it time, though, try to see if I can get a decent read.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:00 pm
by BROseidon
Guys why hasn't Zekrom claimed yet, he's at L-1 and has been for a while.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:05 pm
by Bulbazak
In post 216, T S O wrote:
In post 207, Bulbazak wrote:You based your scumread on me off of his reasoning.
Let's assume this is true for a while.

What would be wrong with this?
It shows no original reasoning, and paired with your later comment about Thor being conf. town, it shows clear intent to buddy Thor. Then, on top of that, you try to pass the buck on the reasoning in relation to Thor when you are called out on it. By saying "Well, he no longer feels that way.", you were essentially trying to distance yourself from that thought process in relation to its Thor origins. That's scummy as crap.

In post 225, Thor665 wrote: I found Bulba putting me at a 'Dunno' read to be townish of him.
It's moved to probably town due to everyone else's reactions to you.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:34 am
by Smudger
In post 223, Zekrom25 wrote:
In post 222, Porkens wrote:
In post 219, Zekrom25 wrote:i feel Porkens is useless
What do you think I should be doing that I'm not?
you aren't scum hunting, you only post which ones you want gone
There is actually some truth in this statement, but not a fully correct observation as IMO Porkens is asking questions.
Zek
what would you lilt to see as a scum hunt, how would you go about it?


@TSO yes let's talk, why did you OMGUS vote Bulba? Yes you disguised it by putting some time between the posts but that is how I see it.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:35 am
by Smudger
That should read Like not lilt FFS.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:53 am
by Zekrom25
Porkens haven't been asking questions correctly

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:11 am
by Smudger
How do you ask questions properly?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:58 am
by Zekrom25
In post 232, Smudger wrote:How do you ask questions properly?
like that ^

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:50 am
by Yates
In post 224, XScorpion wrote:Can you tell me what you think of post 66?
It's a fluff post that I summarily ignored. How is it you interpret that post as an attempt at duping the player base into believing that's some sort of scum hunting attempt?

I'll get straight to the point; I think your misrepresentation is a bigger sin than his fluff post.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:03 am
by XScorpion
In post 234, Yates wrote:How is it you interpret that post as an attempt at duping the player base into believing that's some sort of scum hunting attempt?
Are you reading the same posts I am? I'm pretty sure Zekrom is operating at a completely different level of game play than the rest of us. I don't see it as fluff.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:26 am
by Porkens
Zek, why haven't you answered all the questions you asked other people?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:35 am
by jasonT1981
Day 1 Vote Count 3
Zekrom25 6 - XScorpion,Smudger,Thor665,BROseidon,Porkens,Yates
Bulbazak 2 - cxinlee,T S O
TSO 1 - Bulbazak,
cxinlee 1 - smargaret
Xscorpion 1- zakk
Thor665 1 - Zekrom25

Not Voting

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till Day 1 Deadline

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:51 am
by BROseidon
Hey guys, Zekrom's been at L-1 for like 5 pages and hasn't claimed.

We should hammer it if he doesn't claim in his next post.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:54 am
by Bulbazak
Zekrom, why aren't you answering my question? How is Thor not helpful?

P-edit: Absolutely not! First, I'd like to see intent given, along with time for claims and final reads, before a hammer falls. Anything else I will PL the next day. There's no reason to claim without intent being given, and you know better Bro. Second, we have 15 days before deadline. There is no need to quickhammer, especially since I think there are several issues we need to resolve before deadline.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:06 am
by Yiley
Intent to hammer zekrom

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:32 am
by T S O
Yiley, no you don't. Give me tonight.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:35 am
by T S O
In post 229, Smudger wrote: @TSO yes let's talk, why did you OMGUS vote Bulba? Yes you disguised it by putting some time between the posts but that is how I see it.
He might have voted first, but I went after him, hard, in my very first post of the game. OMGUS is when you vote a person for no other reason than they voted you. This most definitely isn't that.

What do you think of Zekrom?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:46 am
by T S O
In post 228, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 228, Bulbazak wrote:
It shows no original reasoning.
But if the original reasoning is good enough, then why is it necessary to add onto it?
In post 228, Bulbazak wrote:And paired with your later comment about Thor being conf. town, it shows clear intent to buddy Thor.[/b]
No, this is you twisting words. Again. I said that if you flip scum, Thor is conf. Town. I never called Thor confTown by himself.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:55 am
by Porkens
In post 239, Bulbazak wrote:Zekrom, why aren't you answering my question? How is Thor not helpful?

P-edit: Absolutely not! First, I'd like to see intent given, along with time for claims and final reads, before a hammer falls. Anything else I will PL the next day. There's no reason to claim without intent being given, and you know better Bro. Second, we have 15 days before deadline. There is no need to quickhammer, especially since I think there are several issues we need to resolve before deadline.
Conversely, as far as I'm concerned, you can hammer right now even without a claim.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:02 am
by T S O
Thor, you're probably gonna mock me at some stage. Better now than later, I guess.

More to the point, I think you're mistaking Zekrom being an absolute moron for Zekrom being scum. You have a lot of interactions with him which are just him being supernaturally dense as opposed to scummy.

Is this a policy lynch or a scum lynch

PEdit: Why would you ever suggest that?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:19 am
by Porkens
It can be both a policy lynch and a scum lynch.

It's very clear we need to separate the wheat from the chaf early this game (there is a lot of the latter to get through). Besides that, I think he is likely scum. All in all, I see no reason to dilly-dally aroung for 14 fucking days, giving the scum more and more time to select the optimal night kill.

I can't stand pussyfooting around on day 1. He's scum. He's not helpful. Hammer him.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:05 am
by T S O
I want to rope Porkens more and more.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:23 am
by Bulbazak
In post 243, T S O wrote: But if the original reasoning is good enough, then why is it necessary to add onto it?
But the original reasoning was not good enough. Both Thor and yourself have seen my play as town. Is my arguing over what I take to be a serious point really a scumtell? Heck, Thor has seen me repeatedly ride wagons on myself out as scum. How would I then be freaking out over something insignificant in RVS like he purporting me to be? Essentially, you leaping on for the same cut and dry reasoning without adding why you think that is true based on your own experiences with me, or even why it is likely to be true in this game, is just plain lazy. And I don't associate you with lazy.
In post 243, T S O wrote:
In post 228, Bulbazak wrote:And paired with your later comment about Thor being conf. town, it shows clear intent to buddy Thor.[/b]
No, this is you twisting words. Again. I said that if you flip scum, Thor is conf. Town. I never called Thor confTown by himself.
This is you snipping one sentence from an entire argument and misrepresenting it as an argument in and of itself. I said that the comment paired with you lazily using Thor's argument on me showed an intent to buddy. You can't separate the actions. They have to be seen together as a whole, much like those 3 posts that you churned out shortly after each other. They were meant to work together as a whole.

Why do you think Zekrom is more likely to be a VI instead of scum?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:41 am
by T S O
I don't think Zekrom is more likely to be a Village Idiot than scum. I'm saying he's an idiot no matter what and no-one here can read him for shit. Thus, as I've said before, he's quite literally a coinflip in terms of flipping scum.

Porkens calling it a policy lynch and a scum lynch as well really irks me.