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No CB itlepip had yet to say anything game relevant whereas you had.

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Yes on itlepip

Is your entire game just trying to push random wagons?

Why do you think it's random?

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Gork wanna wagon itlepip?

↑ Spiffeh wrote:My vote on itlepip is entirely serious.

I even wrote up a case check it out!

↑ Spiffeh wrote:mollie can you join my itlepip wagon?

↑ Antihero wrote:do you want my shiny spiffeh?

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Yes on itlepip

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↑ Spiffeh wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Yes on itlepip

Is your entire game just trying to push random wagons?

Someone's a little self conscious

~

so i'm gonna go ahead and vote Spiffeh.
like, how on earth is it "self-conscious" to react in that situation...it would be weirder if itlepip *didn't* react

TL;DR: Spiffeh is just trying to make itlepip look bad rather than trying to discern his alignment

Maxous it's the fact that he discredits my vote on him by saying I'm pushing random wagons (which isn't true), and only really comments on that without giving insight to the rest of the game.

That is scummy.

And why are you acting like this isn't a method of discerning alignment?

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Maxous it's the fact that he discredits my vote on him by saying I'm pushing random wagons (which isn't true)

to be fair, I do think this is a good point, yes

Varsoon here.

I went to sleep to 1 page and woke up to 10.
At least my other head is keeping it cool with his ever-chilling presence.

Also, hey, I'm confirmed town without being dead for once. How's that, scumflunks? Shaking in your boots yet? Piss yourself yet?
Get ready, 'cus it's about time that the pizza took a bite outta you.

FoS on CharlotteBebe and 3Dice. I guess Anti, too, given Anti's still voting me, like, whyyyy?
I'm not crazy about Saki's vote/unvote for us followed by the whole, "Lynch the miller, amirite?" play.
I really don't have townreads on anyone.
Mafblack probably has that effect on me.
You guys need to step it up.
Also, slow on down, no need for a 10000000 page D1.

I'm good with whatever, whenever, the fgggg you gonna doooo

↑ Maxous wrote:

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Maxous it's the fact that he discredits my vote on him by saying I'm pushing random wagons (which isn't true)

to be fair, I do think this is a good point, yes

Wait you think it's a good point, but you still think he's scum?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7348743
VOTE: itlepip

↑ 3dicerolling wrote:
Wait you think it's a good point, but you still think he's scum?

Yes

↑ Cold Pizza wrote:Varsoon here.

I went to sleep to 1 page and woke up to 10.
At least my other head is keeping it cool with his ever-chilling presence.

Also, hey, I'm confirmed town without being dead for once. How's that, scumflunks? Shaking in your boots yet? Piss yourself yet?
Get ready, 'cus it's about time that the pizza took a bite outta you.

FoS on CharlotteBebe and 3Dice. I guess Anti, too, given Anti's still voting me, like, whyyyy?
I'm not crazy about Saki's vote/unvote for us followed by the whole, "Lynch the miller, amirite?" play.
I really don't have townreads on anyone.
Mafblack probably has that effect on me.
You guys need to step it up.
Also, slow on down, no need for a 10000000 page D1.

I'm good with whatever, whenever, the fgggg you gonna doooo

hi guy!

VOTE: Maxous

That logic does not make any sense. It seems like you are trying to do what you just accused Spiffeh of.

i feel demotivated.

pizza wrote:FoS on CharlotteBebe

y

pocket wrote:VOTE: charlottebebe

y

seriously ive actually started playing like i usually.
anyone scumreading me from this point on is earning my ire for ignoring my towngame vibes.

3dice wrote:That logic does not make any sense. It seems like you are trying to do what you just accused Spiffeh of.

why is hypocrisy scummy? why is his logic being wrong scummy?

spiff wrote:No CB itlepip had yet to say anything game relevant whereas you had.

why is saying game relevant things town? talk at me about why you think scum would willfully avoid giving content when they are under pressure to do so.

He wasn't under pressure to do so. This isn't my only reason for scumreading him either.

And if you tell me it's weak like Maxous I will laugh at you and point at the number of pages in this game (and I don't even think it's that weak).

Who voted in #234?

-Ank

@CharlotteBebe - If you accuse somehow of something that you are also doing yourself, it's grasping at straws, which in turn is scummy because scum do not have any scum reads because they know who is scum.

and have you ever seen this scumtell in action and caught someone with it?

↑ CharlotteBebe wrote:and have you ever seen this scumtell in action and caught someone with it?

Maybe not necessarily caught someone with it, but it has led to either a scummy reaction from them or town reaction, which has either led to the pursuit of their lunch or me backing off.

↑ 3dicerolling wrote:If you accuse somehow of something that you are also doing yourself

honestly, you've lost me here.
what exactly are you saying i'm doing.

spiff wrote:He wasn't under pressure to do so. This isn't my only reason for scumreading him either.

so why did you get chummy with me when i started providing content after coming under pressure? shouldnt i have stayed in the same spot on your readslist and received more pressure from you as a result?

3dice wrote:Maybe not necessarily caught someone with it, but it has led to either a scummy reaction from them or town reaction, which has either led to the pursuit of their lunch or me backing off.

im reading into this interaction more and im really not seeing how maxous is being a hypocrite here.
to me it seems like hes saying that the majority of what spiff is doing comes across as him starting from a conclusion and working backwards, and despite agreeing that a point is valid, it doesnt discredit the rest of what maxous is saying and to boil down everything hes saying into "this is hypocritical!" comes across as reductive in a way i dont like.
talk to me about why maxous discredits his own case on spiff if hes scum whos grasping at straws.

↑ Spiffeh wrote:Maxous it's the fact that he discredits my vote on him by saying I'm pushing random wagons (which isn't true), and only really comments on that without giving insight to the rest of the game.

That is scummy.

And why are you acting like this isn't a method of discerning alignment?

Okay, so what was your initial reason for starting the wagon?
You said "hey lets start a wagon on itlepip", then essentially copy pasted that same post about 10 more times in the thread, and that is all you have done after RVS. The only explanation for your read has been my reaction to your wagon, so unless you could somehow foresee my reaction to your wagon, deemed it scummy and started a wagon on me because of that you have provided no other explanation for why I am scum. So either give whatever scum read you had on me when you started the wagon that you withheld in order to say "join my wagon plsssssssss" or admit that you push random wagons.

I don't actually mind random wagons early game, but when there is no actual accusation in it and then you misrepresent why you started the wagon, I first off don't have anything to defend so there is no real pressure and second have absolutely no idea how that helps town at all.

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