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Setting up lynches in advance? The only way you could be confirmed a win from that is if you are scum and know that Scarlet and I are both town. Or if Scarlet is your partner a mislynch on me would give you an excuse not to follow through with that plan in lylo and to lynch another townie for the win.

Or if you're scum and I'm lynching you and your partner. BlackVoid, come vote Huntress. No reason for you not to unless you're protecting your partner

@Accountant, I'll think on it. As I said earlier, I'm looking at either Scarlet/Penguin or Scarlet/Huntress as the team.

Question for everyone: shouldn't we be mass-claiming at this point? We're a day away from possible lylo. If we do get to lylo, it offers scum a chance to counterclaim the power roles. But claiming now means we have confirmed townies and we can use Process Of Elimination to narrow down our lynch choices. That also should help me get better reads I think.

No - we don't want the scum killing investigatives and preventing them from bringing their investigations and info to the table the next day. Plus, if we lynch Huntress, it won't be LyLo.

In post 227, Accountant wrote:No - we don't want the scum killing investigatives and preventing them from bringing their investigations and info to the table the next day. Plus, if we lynch Huntress, it won't be LyLo.

How do you know we're in a setup with investigatives?

In post 228, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 227, Accountant wrote:No - we don't want the scum killing investigatives and preventing them from bringing their investigations and info to the table the next day. Plus, if we lynch Huntress, it won't be LyLo.

How do you know we're in a setup with investigatives?

I don't. But let's not take the chance.

It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

In post 230, Accountant wrote:It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.

To be blunt, I don't think the setup is relevant right now.

In post 194, PenguinPower wrote:I suspect everyone, that's why I'm asking questions. Did I strongly suspect he was scum? Well...did I put my vote down?

No you didn't, but you certainly kept the pressure on me. It's plain to see that a day two townee lynch with your vote on them would make for a very unpleasant day three for you.

I don't understand exactly what caused Accountant to drop his vote on me, and or why Penguin voted Huntress almost simultaneously.

In post 231, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 230, Accountant wrote:It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.

Penguin, my comment about the setup was more along the lines of it being wide open from my standpoint. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is speculating on the setup a bad thing (I'm asking this as a general statement, not for this specific game)?

Accountant, can you answer that question as well, from an IC standpoint?

In post 169, Accountant wrote:

BlackVoid
hinanawiscarlet
Icy
Shadowlancerx
Huntress (SE)
PenguinPower (SE)
Accountant (IC)

I know I'm town.

Newbie 1739 just ended, so I want everyone to go look at it. That's a game where Penguin is scum. I don't think he's scum here.

Shadowlancer isn't scum. Newbscum doesnt L-1 themselves early on the game.

BlackVoid is probably town. Wouldn't bet my soul on it, but scum BlackVoid could easily have killed Icy.

Icy is pretty obvious newbtown if I take off my tunnel glasses. Scum has no reason to vote me when they could mindlessly sheep onto PP.

scarlet and Huntress are scum by PoE. One is an inactive and the other was trying to kill PP instantly Day 2. The jump from PP to Icy seals the deal.

Kill him instantly is a giant stretch, she placed the first vote on him which he earned. We don't know what she would have done had a quick train formed on him. I only say that because she was quick to move her vote off of me when I was at L-1.

In post 169, Accountant wrote:Shadowlancer isn't scum. Newbscum doesnt L-1 themselves early on the game.

Unless they have an IC coaching them pre-game not to worry about it.

In post 170, Accountant wrote:This vote confirms PP as town.

I don't get why you're buddying me.

In post 187, Accountant wrote:

In post 186, PenguinPower wrote:I'm getting a really bad feeling that Accountant may be scum leading the town.

TRUST

YOU GOTTA HAVE TRUST

(also, why would I bother switching off Icy if I was scum)

Can't trust an IC who is buddying me. You swapped off Icy because it makes you look more towny.

In post 223, Accountant wrote:Huntress is the only scum I'm 100% absolutely sure of. Vote her or me, pick your side.

In post 224, Accountant wrote:If Huntress flips town, I want everyone to lynch me tomorrow.

I'm actually wanting to do this as the inverse.

In post 232, Accountant wrote:To be blunt, I don't think the setup is relevant right now.

Agreed, but I can't shake the feeling that you and Shadow are scumbuddies. More confident in you.

VOTE: Accountant

I'm really hating all these setups

UNVOTE:
I feel pretty confident that either Huntress or Accountant are scum. I have had that feeling of being lead in the back of my mind, but I did trust accountant. I still do to an extent, and I think a lynch on either one of them will push us to a pretty close to solved endgame.

Penguin I'm not scum, but I recognize that if he flips scum you won't believe that. However, if he flips scum, I believe town can still win, even without me.

If he flips town, then it's huntress and we go from there.

In post 235, Shadowlancerx wrote:

In post 231, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 230, Accountant wrote:It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.

Penguin, my comment about the setup was more along the lines of it being wide open from my standpoint. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is speculating on the setup a bad thing (I'm asking this as a general statement, not for this specific game)?

Not necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't help us and it might lead to PRs slipping or scum getting a better idea who to target.

At least, y'know, wait until you have information about the setup before speccing on it.

In post 242, Accountant wrote:

In post 235, Shadowlancerx wrote:

In post 231, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 230, Accountant wrote:It's just not optimal to massclaim when we can just lynch huntress and avert lylo in the first place

No. I get that. It's just that now you and Shadow have both commented pretty specifically on our setup. It's off-putting.

Penguin, my comment about the setup was more along the lines of it being wide open from my standpoint. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is speculating on the setup a bad thing (I'm asking this as a general statement, not for this specific game)?

Not necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't help us and it might lead to PRs slipping or scum getting a better idea who to target.

At least, y'know, wait until you have information about the setup before speccing on it.

Gotcha, okay I won't speculate further.

Unless they have an IC coaching them pre-game not to worry about it.

I might coach 'em not to panic if they were at L-1, but it doesn't make sense for me to coach Shadow to vote himself to L-1. I'm not that insane.

I don't get why you're buddying me.

I'm not buddying you though. I just like that you voted Huntress. You should keep voting Huntress.

Can't trust an IC who is buddying me. You swapped off Icy because it makes you look more towny.

Nah mate. I coulda pretended to blindtunnel Icy for free and nobody would have found me suspicious for it. Heck, you would've equated it to my behavior against vytis in the mini we played together, where I was town. The extra towncred isn't worth giving up the free mislynch for scum Accountant.

I'm actually wanting to do this as the inverse.

I'm okay with this. Let me outline the rules of the Accountant Game.


TWO PLAYERS ENTER

ONE PLAYER LEAVE

IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE

Rules:

- You can only vote either or today. Anyone who doesn't vote one of these two options is either scum or a big weenie nya nya!
- Hint: you should vote .
- If you do end up voting , you lynch after flips town. Everyone in this game has to look me in the metaphorical eyes and promise me this. cannot be town together with , because if that was the case mafia would sheep and then mislynch me the next day after flips town.
- No voters are a big weenie nya nya as well! If you're town, you shouldn't be afraid to stand firm and declare your side!

In post 241, Shadowlancerx wrote:UNVOTE:
I feel pretty confident that either Huntress or Accountant are scum. I have had that feeling of being lead in the back of my mind, but I did trust accountant. I still do to an extent, and I think a lynch on either one of them will push us to a pretty close to solved endgame.

Penguin I'm not scum, but I recognize that if he flips scum you won't believe that. However, if he flips scum, I believe town can still win, even without me.

If he flips town, then it's huntress and we go from there.

Can you explain to me why you trust Accountant?

In post 245, Accountant wrote:

I'm actually wanting to do this as the inverse.

I'm okay with this. Let me outline the rules of the Accountant Game.

The Accountant Game

TWO PLAYERS ENTER

ONE PLAYER LEAVE

IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE

Rules:

- You can only vote either

Accountant

or

Huntress

today. Anyone who doesn't vote one of these two options is either scum or a big weenie nya nya!
- Hint: you should vote

Huntress

.
- If you do end up voting

Accountant

, you

must

lynch

Huntress

after

Accountant

flips town. Everyone in this game has to look me in the metaphorical eyes and promise me this.

Huntress

cannot be town together with

Accountant

, because if that was the case mafia would sheep

Accountant

and then mislynch me the next day after

Huntress

flips town.
- No voters are a big weenie nya nya as well! If you're town, you shouldn't be afraid to stand firm and declare your side!

UNVOTE:
STOP TEARING MY MIND APART!!!!

I like the game. Want to hear more from Huntress.

In post 246, hinanawiscarlet wrote:

In post 241, Shadowlancerx wrote:UNVOTE:
I feel pretty confident that either Huntress or Accountant are scum. I have had that feeling of being lead in the back of my mind, but I did trust accountant. I still do to an extent, and I think a lynch on either one of them will push us to a pretty close to solved endgame.

Penguin I'm not scum, but I recognize that if he flips scum you won't believe that. However, if he flips scum, I believe town can still win, even without me.

If he flips town, then it's huntress and we go from there.

Can you explain to me why you trust Accountant?

With all that's happened I feel a little foolish, but basically he recognized me for the newb town I am early game, after I made a fool of myself. From there, his posts followed logic, made sense to me. I thought (and still hope) that he acted that way as a true town, and that if he was that dead on about me, that his reads would be more likely to be accurate elsewhere. For good or for ill, I've taken his lead thus far, and if that gets me killed as his false partner, then I've learned more from this game.

In post 218, BlackVoid wrote:@Huntress, are you arguing that Accountant and Scarlet are partnered? Who are your other scumreads?

No, although that is a possibility. I think the likeliest partner for Accountant at the moment is you but I don't have an individual scum read on you.

Other reads: Still unsure about Icy but I don't think he is partner to Accountant due to the fact that Accountant didn't unvote when Icy was at L-1, which was a bit risky with a player missing. Possible scum team in BlackVoid and Icy if Accountant isn't scum. Penguin, Shadow and Scarlet look like town although the latter two have been playing the newbie card a bit which makes me wary of them.


Town

Penguin
Scarlet
Shadow
BlackVoid
Icy
Accountant

Scum