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Hi sad1492, you sound like a really nice person and I'm terribly sorry I'm doing this to you. Unfortunately the circlejerk irritates the hell out of me and I can't focus on reading individual people when about 1/4 of the game consists of Transcend's spam and super confident scum reads on me and anyone who dares defend me. I literally don't care if he's town at this point. He either has to cut the crap or get lynched. This thread isn't the only place he's been harassing me btw. Pretty sure he doesn't care if I'm town or not, he just wants me out and the feeling is mutual.

i want u out because ur scum

u want me out bc i caught u

????

this is not the first time that i've seen scum try to lynch me or get me subbed out and pretend it's because i'm "harassing" them.

I want you out because you're annoying and you've been annoying me from way before this game happened. Post I'm referring to.

then sub out

i'm not that bothered by you

i'm lynching you because you think i'm scum

i have given sufficient reasoning to my fos

you are using outside matters to try and get me lynched and to try and discredit my read on u

well it ain't gonna work

have some rope, my friend

In post 229, Transcend wrote:then sub out

i'm not that bothered by you

i'm lynching you because i think you're scum

i have given sufficient reasoning to my fos

you are using outside matters to try and get me lynched and to try and discredit my read on u

well it ain't gonna work

have some rope, my friend

EBWOP

I don't think you're scum. I just don't think you're helping the town. Until I have a solid scumread, or you cut the crap, I'm perfectly fine with lynching you.

[quote=Transcend]i'm lynching you because you think i'm scum[/quote]

No, you were voting me way before I considered voting you. And I never said I thought you were scum.

I literally don't care about your read on me anymore, or on anyone else. Your reads are rubbish.

I EBWOP'd

me wrote: do this

me wrote: make sure you take out the space

whoops

[quote="me"] LIKE THIS BUT NO SPACE [/ quote]

Sorry, I misread that. Changes nothing though. I'm not scum and I don't think Aubrey is scum either so your reads are either pisspoor or fabricated. Idgaf which.

one person in this game nominated me for a site award because of my good reads in one game

maybe you're the one with rubbish reads, or, maybe you're just scum.

i play like this every game and get my reads like this every time.

however, i doubt i'm someone that both scum want dead immediately post haste. so i'm probably wrong on one (and only one) of Mini/Aubrey

plus I don't see mini buddying the shit out of her scum partner

I never expressed this kind of confidence in my reads. Not even in my other game where I spent 90% of my time tunneling on one person before I got killed N1. Even in that game I considered the possibility I could be wrong. You don't do any of that, so I'm not valuing any of your "strong reads" very highly.

Confidence is key my friend.

If I had to count how many times I lost a game due to 180ing a strong scumread I had and lynching a town vs. 180ing a strong townread I had and sparing a scumbag, I think that the former would've happened quite a bit more.

WAIT NO LEMME REPHRASE THAT:

If I had to count how many times I lost a game due to 180ing vs. how many times I stayed confident to myself, I would've lost quite a bit more doing the former.

Confidence is super key, otherwise you just waffle and make a mess out of everything.

Okay then. Imagine town follows your lead and gets me lynched. I'm revealed as town. What happens then? What information does my flip provide? Is it worth the day and the mislynch? What happens to your reads in that case?

I know where you're coming from re: confidence because I also don't think a weak push is enough to elicit reaction from scum. But I think you should at least consider the possibility your scum reads are town and be prepared to re-evaluate your other reads if your tunnel gets mislynched. Otherwise on D2 you'll be back at square zero.

UNVOTE:

w/e this is probably town

just really tryhard-ish and at the same time passive.

will pinch myself so hard if you flip scum

also unnecessarily defensive.

walk me through Aubrey!Town because I really don't see that one.

I think him asking me to do something because "the people wanted it" was really scummy, and his reaction that followed it wasn't that great.

sad wking us was also kinda scummy but honestly i'm probably just gonna dismiss it as a scummy town move because of his previous content.

I'm not passive, I'm just having trouble reading the game so far. Too many lurkers, RVS too long. You. Etc etc.

Also I'm always defensive. I'm not used to being seen as scummy when I'm town so I flip out. It's NAI for me.

I am glad you at least started actually talking to me and explaining stuff. Please keep it up. UNVOTE: Transcend.

Transcend wrote:walk me through Aubrey!Town because I really don't see that one.

I like that in post 95 he didn't join your wagon because it looked like a non-RVS wagon and he wasn't comfortable with it this early. It's what I would do.

I also like that in 96 he clarified on Creature's behalf instead of trying to frame him as scummy.

I think "the people" was just an expression. He was probably null/townreading you at the time and trying to get more people to reconsider their suspicions on you by asking you to explain your vote.

I don't get the reaction either but I don't think I find it scummy. Could just be confirmation bias on my part though.

The other posts are fluff/null. I could see both town!Aubrey and scum!Aubrey posting them.